Day 2 bubble
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Day 2 bubble

68 started, 12 remain playing down to 11 and a min cash.
100k starting stack
Blinds are 10k/20k/20k
£100 + £20 prize pool expected to be c£20k

Hero has 1.1MM and has raised 4 of the last 5 hands with no resistance.

I’m Button and open to 50k

What is my raise call range vs a 20BB all in?
Villain is definitely competent enough to know what I’m doing.

16 June 2024 at 10:19 AM
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I would call with AJ+/99+ normally. Given your recent shenanigans it could be AT+/66+ though.


Thanks.
I went with my 66 and held vs QJ

Probably shouldn’t have.


by Pokerpops k

68 started, 12 remain playing down to 11 and a min cash.
100k starting stack
Blinds are 10k/20k/20k
£100 + £20 prize pool expected to be c£20k

Hero has 1.1MM and has raised 4 of the last 5 hands with no resistance.

I’m Button and open to 50k

What is my raise call range vs a 20BB all in?
Villain is definitely competent enough to know what I’m doing.

How big are the other stacks? How has the BB been playing? He should be pretty tight if there sufficient other small,stacks.,


by 3for3poker k

How big are the other stacks? How has the BB been playing? He should be pretty tight if there sufficient other small,stacks.,

Mostly around the 15-25BB mark. Shorter stacks were on the other table but both have just doubled up.
Average stack is just over 25BB.

He’s been solid but from table chat he’s fairly successful online and has some game.


by Pokerpops k

Thanks.
I went with my 66 and held vs QJ

Probably shouldn’t have.

What were the blinds' stacks? This might be a better candidate to just open jam on the bubble.


by nath k

What were the blinds' stacks? This might be a better candidate to just open jam on the bubble.

SB has c35BB and has been the other half of the conversation about online play. The 2.5BB raise has been effective thus far, why switch?


Because it's the bubble and you don't want to flip for your whole stack, and you fold out a lot of hands that can rejam on you and have good equity.


by Pokerpops k


He’s been solid but from table chat he’s fairly successful online and has some game.

I can only imagine the table talk of someone in a £100 tournament bragging about how much game they have online.


by nath k

Because it's the bubble and you don't want to flip for your whole stack, and you fold out a lot of hands that can rejam on you and have good equity.

Disregard, I read the big blind as 50k, not 20k. So you have 55BB?

Regardless, shoving is a viable option for similar reasons, assuming both blinds have 20BB or less-- you can definitely call a shove more comfortably off your stack, but you'd still prefer not to flip and you can put tremendous pressure on the blinds. Might even get 77 to fold, and it's probably correct to do so if there are significantly shorter stacks elsewhere in the field.


by Mr Rick k

I would call with AJ+/99+ normally. Given your recent shenanigans it could be AT+/66+ though.

Much much much wider.


This information is so readily available and open to everyone and we still have people suggesting to r/c from btn with AJ-99+ vs 20bb?


by RaiseAnnounced k

I can only imagine the table talk of someone in a £100 tournament bragging about how much game they have online.

These things are all relative, we’re not all Pads or Moorman.
But thanks for your helpful contribution.


by Pokerpops k

Thanks.
I went with my 66 and held vs QJ

Probably shouldn’t have.

No, I definitely think you should have. After you raised 4 of the last 5 hands preflop, the guy who shoved with 20 bb's can have any AXs, any 2 broadways, virtually any SC, as well as any PP. So yes you are in trouble against 77+ but you dominate 22-55 and A2s-A5s and are a flip favorite against most other hands getting good pot odds.

I did the exact same thing in a $600 Foxwoods tournament Day 1 against a guy who had just taken a bad beat against me. I raised pre-flop in UTG+2 and he jammed in the BB. I called because I knew he was furious at me and was probably jamming the range I just mentioned (he actually had QJo). I ended up winning that tournament...


by cashtorg k

This information is so readily available and open to everyone and we still have people suggesting to r/c from btn with AJ-99+ vs 20bb?

We are on the bubble. If I hadn't raised 4 out of my last 5 hands pre-flop, lets say I hadn't raised at all the last 5 hands, then my calling range would likely be 99+/AJ+/ATs.

At any other point in time I would call with 66+/AT+/A9s But sometimes I drop down to 55+/A8+ if it's against a GTO/Solver type or hyper aggro player.


by Mr Rick k

We are on the bubble. If I hadn't raised 4 out of my last 5 hands pre-flop, lets say I hadn't raised at all the last 5 hands, then my calling range would likely be 99+/AJ+/ATs.

At any other point in time I would call with 66+/AT+/A9s But sometimes I drop down to 55+/A8+ if it's against a GTO/Solver type or hyper aggro player.


It’s way wider than that even. We can make adjustments from a nash range but OP is leaving out a lot of information needed, we don’t even know if sb or bb shoved, we have to know the stacks of everyone else at the table.


I would open shove this hand. As played, I would fold to the shove. This is the bubble, so I would not assume they would be so light.


by Pokerpops k

These things are all relative, we’re not all Pads or Moorman.
But thanks for your helpful contribution.

Sorry, just if I could go back in time and give myself any advice, it’s to stop being intimidated by players in small buy-in games who talk about how much of a pro they are at the table. Every time they ended up doing something so cringe that it made me realize they suck worse than me, which is saying something because I’d only been there from winning a free seat from a cash game promo and the extent of my tournament knowledge was what I could skim of Harrington on Hold ‘em between bathroom breaks.

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