2024 ELECTION THREAD
The next presidential race will be here soon! Please see current Bovada odds. Thoughts?
let me rephrase. competitive primaries.
party would probably be in a much better spot right now if Biden was debating in January rather than June.
If your opinion on electing a president is based only on debates and not on What actually Biden did in the last 4 years,
(and what actually trump did in his previous presidential term!)
and continue to do up till last night ….
Then yes you are right .
whoa look at this whataboutism
your position that Biden is the best possible candidate for the Democrats to run is noted.
FWIW I personally don’t think Biden is the best but being better then trump should actually be enough right ?
Not having the best person at a job is not only in presidential position .
U see it elsewhere plenty enough .
Ps: are u suggesting trump is the best candidate on the republicans party anyway ?
nor do they typically say they would not seek a 2nd term in their original campaign
nor do they normally have 37% approval ratings
nor are they typically 5:1 dogs to win the election
nor does 75% of their own party normally say the incumbent should step back from the nomination
incumbent <> king immune to what the party wants. dems have had their heads in the sand for way too long. if they continue deferring to a twilighting man and the team behind him clinging to power, and there's not sufficient clamor to shake up the DNC rules to get someone else fast, we're getting trump 2.0.
It was already published in Scientific American, that's what I linked. Neither they nor I can help if some places still teach BS.
Lol Scientific American. I mean I’m going by actual journals and grad school text books. But I’m sure your pop level articles are more accurate. Again, you claimed he’s a joke and I said that’s false. How he thinks of language hierarchies is a common way to teach/think about pretty basic things among professional mathematicians and computer scientists. This would be consifeted logic 101 type stuff. You don’t seem to have a clue.
FWIW I personally don’t think Biden is the best but being better then trump should actually be enough right ?
Not having the best person at a job is not only in presidential position .
U see it elsewhere plenty enough .
Ps: are u suggesting trump is the best candidate on the republicans party anyway ?
No Trump is definitely not the best, but he's better than Biden.
Trump will beat Biden. I guarantee it. For whatever that's worth, nothing I know.
A reasonable Dem would beat Trump. Easily. Probably too late to switch now, especially with funding.
A reasonable GOP would landslide Biden. Trump might even landslide him.
A reasonable Dem would probably comfortably beat a reasonable GOP.
Biden is Trump's best, and maybe only, way to win. Dems gonna run with him anyways. In that sense I guess you could make the argument that DNC/Biden are actually pro Trump. Maybe that is their master plan. They know Trump winning will crater and destroy the Republican party so they are foregoing this election for long run.
Spoiler
but they didn't take into account by foregoing this election and putting Trump in power, he'll break the whole democratic state and stay President in an authoritarian and fascist fashion until at least 2040 when Barron takes over
No Trump is definitely not the best, but he's better than Biden.
Trump will beat Biden. I guarantee it. For whatever that's worth, nothing I know.
A reasonable Dem would beat Trump. Easily. Probably too late to switch now, especially with funding.
A reasonable GOP would landslide Biden. Trump might even landslide him.
A reasonable Dem would probably comfortably beat a reasonable GOP.
Biden is Trump's best, and maybe only, way to win. Dems gonna
You are Entitled to your opinion to believe a convict
fraudster,
sexual harasser ,
poor job done in earlier term (2017-2020),
surrounded mostly by criminals (lawyers, in business, etc)
Trying overturn an election
Lies constantly
Promote conspiracy theory (ie: election fraud 2020)
Fascist narrative
Praise dictators and previous U.S. ennemies
Etc I could go on ….
Compare to Biden who’s 3 years older , had a bad debate ,still to this day his the president and the country ain’t falling , did a good job in the last 4 years shrug .
I guess are values about integrity isn’t the same , it’s ok .
Compare to Biden who’s 3 years older , had a bad debate,still to this day his the president and the country ain’t falling , did a good job in the last 4 years shrug.
LOL.
Had a bad debate is such nonsense. That's his regular self. It's painfully evident. Sorry you don't see it.
Why is his approval rating so low if he's doing such a bang up job?
LOL.
Had a bad debate is such nonsense. That's his regular self. It's painfully evident. Sorry you don't see it.
Why is his approval rating so low if he's doing such a bang up job?
Because half the country are too idiot and believe the economy is terrible currently is an example .
Ps: lets you are right about Biden being 100% as slow as he was on the debate .
It takes him 1m instead of 10sec to decide.
Doesn’t mean his mind is damaged
The country still running fine up to this day .
I want Biden to step down but I won’t take a individual like trump before Biden .
I actually believe integrity for a president is important shrug .
Lol Scientific American. I mean I’m going by actual journals and grad school text books. But I’m sure your pop level articles are more accurate. Again, you claimed he’s a joke and I said that’s false. How he thinks of language hierarchies is a common way to teach/think about pretty basic things among professional mathematicians and computer scientists. This would be consifeted logic 101 type stuff. You don’t seem to have a clue.
I said nothing about language hierarchy. I said the theory he is most known for was nutty, and that article shows why. He is a joke to me; you're free to think otherwise.
LOL.
Had a bad debate is such nonsense. That's his regular self. It's painfully evident. Sorry you don't see it.
Why is his approval rating so low if he's doing such a bang up job?
If you truly think that job approval ratings are important, you might want to notice that Trump ended his term at 34%, the lowest of any President, and is the only President whose approval rating never reached even 50%.
Serious question for the enlightened folks here.
My understanding is Dem donation money can only go to Biden and/or Harris. If one of them isn't the nominee, much, if not all of the donated money needs to be returned.
1) If Biden steps down as president, Kamala becomes president. How is the VP chosen?
2) If that happens, would the VP be entitled to any of that donated money for a campaign, or only Kamala?
Thanks
If you truly think that job approval ratings are important, you might want to notice that Trump ended his term at 34%, the lowest of any President, and is the only President whose approval rating never reached even 50%.
you might want to notice trump never dipped below 39% until he lost the election and tried to stage a coup. biden is a rounding error away from being at the approval rating sore loser trump was after trying to overthrow election results.
that's how bad it is for dems, but they insist on covering their ears shouting "But Trump is worse!"
i agree, but the country does not. they've had 8 years to digest these candidates and now prefer trump, almost by double digits. If the election were held today Biden would certainly lose. if he's allowed to deteriorate another 4 months he will still lose.
all these "Trump is worse" arguments still hold if you replace Biden with literally anyone else, and they'd at least offer the upside chance of winning.
Presidents almost always look better in hindsight, after people forget how bad they were. That was true even for Richard Nixon, who became a "respected elder statesman" 10 years or so after he resigned in shame. Unless Biden is reelected and then screws up in some incredibly major way, I'm sure he will be retroactively more popular than he is now as well.
I'm not a Biden supporter or even a Democrat, but I would choose a random native-born citizen above the age of 35 over Trump. I agree Biden should be replaced and so do most Democrats, but as long as he is the presumptive nominee of course they're going to say that. No one is "covering their ears". What do you expect them to say?
This all seems like comically piss poor planning by the dems. They had plenty of time to persuade him to step aside and to start preparing a different candidate. Someone needs to tell them that own goals count for the other team.
Every time a Euro comes out in the forum we learn they are lamenting the fall of Mussolini or support the reformation of the USSR or whatever piece of information points to them living in a hyper-conservative past.
Every, single, time
lol euros
you might want to notice trump never dipped below 39% until he lost the election and tried to stage a coup. biden is a rounding error away from being at the approval rating sore loser trump was after trying to overthrow election results.
that's how bad it is for dems, but they insist on covering their ears shouting "But Trump is worse!"
i agree, but the country does not. they've had 8 years to digest these candidates and now prefer trump, al
also, with those ratings, trump lost
Is anyone else bothered by this? Of course this is good for the DNC's chances.
