Moderation Questions and General Chat Thread

Moderation Questions and General Chat Thread

The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic failed, and it became a general discussion thread with almost no moderation related posts at all. And those that were posted were so buried in non-mod posts that it became a huge time drain on the mods to sort through them. Then, when off topic posts were deleted posters complained about that.

This led to the closing of the mod discussion thread, replaced by the post report/pm approach. This has filtered out lots of noise, but has resulted at times in the General Discussion Thread turning into a quasi-mod thread. This is not desirable, but going back to the old mod thread is also not a workable option.

Therefore, I have created this new moderation thread, but with a different purpose and ground rules than previous mod threads. The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for posters to pose questions to the mods about how policies are applied; to bring to the mods attention posts they think are inappropriate and reach the level of requiring mod action; and for mods to communicate to posters things like changes or clarifications to policies, bannings, etc.

Now let me tell you what this thread is NOT a place for. It is not for nonmoderation related posts, even if the discussion originates from a comment in in a mod related post. It is not for posters to post their opinions about other posters or whether a poster should be banned. It is not to rehash past grievances about mod decisions from months or years ago. The focus of this thread will be recent posts that require action now. Or questions about current policies and enforcement.

So basically, this is a thread to ask mods questions. Which means, pretty much that only mods should be answering those questions. If a poster asks why a particular post was deleted or allowed, only a mod can answer that. Everyone else who wants to jump in with their opinion or their mod war story needs to stay out of it. It just increases the noise to signal ratio and does nothing to answer the question.

Everyone needs to understand that this thread has very different rules than the old mod thread and any other thread. Any non-moderation post will be deleted on sight. Not moved to the appropriate thread, just deleted. So don't waste your time crafting a masterpiece post about wars or transgender issues or the presidential election and then post it in this thread. It will be gone. Also, this isnt a thread for general commentary about our mods performance. Posting "browser sucks as a mod" or any such posts that don't actually ask about a policy or request a mod action will be deleted. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about the moderation of this forum. But this thread isnt for complaining about mods. You are free to go to the ATF forum and make your concerns about modding in this forum there.

So with that intro, this thread is open for those who need to bring questions about mod policies or bring inappropriate posts to the mods attention. Again, it is NOT a thread for group discussions about other posters or for other posters to answer questions directed to mods.

We'll see how this goes. If you have what you feel is an open issue raised in the General Discussion Thread, please copy that post or otherwise reintroduce the issue here.

Thanks.

30 January 2024 at 05:27 AM
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by craig1120 P

I got to where I am through pragmaticism.

I'm pretty sure this is not the advertisement pragmatism was looking for.


Pearls. Swine.


On the contrary, I am very much enjoying your word salad of wisdom.


by d2_e4 P

Hate to break it to you bud, but your destiny is to end up in the ground as worm food just like the rest of us. All that heaven stuff is a fairy tale made up by the elites so you toe the line like a good little sheeple.

goin' hard core now with the opium I see.


Heaven stuff is separate from power structures that are centered around places of worship in organised religions, which is where the problem lies.

No mention of cathedrals or mosques in their holy books yet still they flock to them.


by d2_e4 P

Hate to break it to you bud, but your destiny is to end up in the ground as worm food just like the rest of us. All that heaven stuff is a fairy tale made up by the elites so you toe the line like a good little sheeple.

Or... you find eternity in your bloodline you know. If you have one. Like the elites do.


by jalfrezi P

Heaven stuff is separate from power structures that are centered around places of worship in organised religions, which is where the problem lies.

No mention of cathedrals or mosques in their holy books yet still they flock to them.

And these places of worship, they got any particular books they like to use?


by Luciom P

Or... you find eternity in your bloodline you know. If you have one. Like the elites do.

Now that you mention it, being an armed robber with a hot girlfriend probably is in my bloodline! And teaching her to play pool, obvs. Well, that's my destiny sorted then, sounds good to me.


by d2_e4 P

And these places of worship, they got any particular books they like to use?

Right. I'm saying it's perfectly possible for people to practice their religions and pray privately but boy do they like to make a big show of their piety, with no tangible benefit conferred by their ostentatious public displays in their holy books. Hypocrites and suckers, generally.


Why are you guys comparing 8 beers to 8 cups of coffee? No alcoholic is stopping after beer #8.


Lots of misconceptions about alcoholics posted here, some spread by alcoholics themselves.


dear mods, can we consider anyone posting a robbie williams song going forward to be a hate crime?


by rickroll P

dear mods, can we consider anyone posting a robbie williams song going forward to be a hate crime?

Hey pal, nowt wrong with a bit of Robbie. His ballads are pretty good.

Anyway, I think we needn't ask about your musical tastes. This is you, right?


by Luckbox Inc P

Lots of misconceptions about alcoholics posted here, some spread by alcoholics themselves.

Orly? I assume you know this because the government told you what the recommended daily intake is? Check you out, just eating up all that propaganda and asking for more like an obedient little sheeple.


by d2_e4 P

Orly? I assume you know this because the government told you what the recommended daily intake is? Check you out, just eating up all that propaganda and asking for more like an obedient little sheeple.

I know this because I've been around some alcoholics.


by Luckbox Inc P

I know this because I've been around some alcoholics.

Sounds like you're eminently qualified to characterise others' posts as "misinformation" then.

Also, let me know when you need your taxes done or you need someone to represent you in court, I've been around some accountants and lawyers.


by Luckbox Inc P

Lots of misconceptions about alcoholics posted here, some spread by alcoholics themselves.

Its almost like wondering amongst us if social media is hazardous to our well being.


by d2_e4 P

Sounds like you're eminently qualified to characterise others' posts as "misinformation" then.

Also, let me know when you need your taxes done or you need someone to represent you in court, I've been around some accountants and lawyers.

I'm not claiming that because I've been around alcoholics that I know how to drink a lot


by d2_e4 P

Hate to break it to you bud, but your destiny is to end up in the ground as worm food just like the rest of us. All that heaven stuff is a fairy tale made up by the elites so you toe the line like a good little sheeple.

Which is most real - life or death?


I don’t think anyone has mentioned that alcohol is a known carcinogen yet. Any amount is a negative for health, although of course in moderation it won’t be a meaningful uptick in cancer risk. I’m pretty sure moderation in this context is something like two drinks a week max though. Coffee on the other hand is chock full of antioxidants and there’s some evidence that it has protective qualities for the liver and against cardiovascular disease.

Speaking personally as a former partier and now a salads and exercise person, my mood is better on a day to day basis. That has been a a pretty big positive in my life. Drinking and everything else I did was a kind of monotonous drudgery in comparison to the varied ways that I’m active nowadays. To each their own of course but a healthier lifestyle isn’t inherently less fulfilling or more boring.


by Betraisefold22 P

Don't think so but also not sure in what quantity it does become bad. I think like 400+ mg a day is considered ''too much'' which is 10 cups? maybe more? Not sure I don't drink coffee.

Can we just agree that 8 beers a day is bad for you? That 8 Red Bulls a day is also bad for you and that 8 cans of Pepsi is also bad for you?

Like the great philosopher Ronaldo once said. Just drink water.

It’s actually about 3-4 regular sized cups.


by Bubble_Balls P

I don’t think anyone has mentioned that alcohol is a known carcinogen yet. Any amount is a negative for health, although of course in moderation it won’t be a meaningful uptick in cancer risk. I’m pretty sure moderation in this context is something like two drinks a week max though. Coffee on the other hand is chock full of antioxidants and there’s some evidence that it has protective qualities for the liver and against cardiovascular disea

The "any amount is a negative" for alcohol thing is a very recent, ultra controversial take with no scientifical consensus which is being pushed by the same people who push all healthy lifestyle extremism, almost none of which come from countries with a healthy consumption of alcohol as a part of culture (Italy, France, Spain).

If you guys want to keep pushing stuff that clearly goes into the face of reality feel free to do so but when France gets one of the highest life expectancy in the world with a diet of meat cheese and red wine in the last decades, you know for a fact "science" telling you that diet is cancerogenic and terrible is just fraudulent science.


by Bubble_Balls P

I don’t think anyone has mentioned that alcohol is a known carcinogen yet. Any amount is a negative for health, although of course in moderation it won’t be a meaningful uptick in cancer risk. I’m pretty sure moderation in this context is something like two drinks a week max though. Coffee on the other hand is chock full of antioxidants and there’s some evidence that it has protective qualities for the liver and against cardiovascular disea

Good to hear you’re happy now, but to be honest if your drinking career was monotonous drudgery you were drinking with the wrong people.


by Luciom P

The "any amount is a negative" for alcohol thing is a very recent, ultra controversial take with no scientifical consensus which is being pushed by the same people who push all healthy lifestyle extremism, almost none of which come from countries with a healthy consumption of alcohol as a part of culture (Italy, France, Spain).

If you guys want to keep pushing stuff that clearly goes into the face of reality feel free to do so but when Franc

Alcohol is indisputably a carcinogen. Unless there are other properties of a substance which make the consumption a net positive on health, you can’t really claim it’s not a health negative. Like I already said, it may not be enough of a health negative in the grand scheme to be of significance.

All those countries you mention can have good life expectancy despite alcohol consumption for a myriad of other reasons. That’s not really proof of anything. I could pick out countries in Eastern Europe that have higher per capita alcohol consumption and much worse life expectancy and that also wouldn’t account for the other reasons their life expectancy is lower.


by Betraisefold22 P

Doctor would tell them to lose weight and stop doing stuff that's detrimental to their health, like for example drinking too much alcohol or eating too much.

There are zero benefits to being obese, unlike excessive drinking.


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