Israel/Palestine thread
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Doubt it will, and for good reason. Going to wait for more info since you didn’t provide any (for obvious reasons). Anyone with a brain can deduce that the situations, conditions, and context are completely different and the 2 killings are most likely not comparable at all. Although, that won’t stop the dishonest comparisons from being made.
Read about this in Jerusalem Post this morning. Doesn't look good for the IDF.
The Israeli military stated that during the public disorder, stones were thrown at IDF forces, who responded by shooting at the lower body of one of the rioters, according to Ynet. Additionally, the Israeli military said it was investigating the report.
Seems like a fair response to stones being thrown.
Of-course Victor has to make it sound worse than it already is which doesn't help. She wasn't ''executed''.
bruv one of the most highly trained snipers in the world put a bullet directly in her head. thats an execution.
he missed: she was throwing stones therefore a legal target.
Read about this in Jerusalem Post this morning. Doesn't look good for the IDF.
Seems like a fair response to stones being thrown.
Of-course Victor has to make it sound worse than it already is which doesn't help. She wasn't ''executed''.
Victor has repeatedly proven himself incapable of honestly commenting on, well basically anything.
There must be more info out now because what I saw was very scarce.
Throwing stones at armed soldiers in the middle of a high tension area known for terrorist activity is just not a good idea.
You’re smart enough that we don’t need to go through the differences between voluntarily traveling to a conflict zone and being taken hostage against your will.
oh so its now proven she was throwing stones at soldiers. you guys are a trip.
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Article said IDF started shooting the protestors with live ammo. Obviously very bad. Not really the same as executed. Not even sure why you're arguing against me, I'm for once agreeing with you that this looks very bad for the IDF. Basically your wet dream is coming true.
Edit: Note how I said NOTHING about her throwing stones?
Victor has repeatedly proven himself incapable of honestly commenting on, well basically anything.
There must be more info out now because what I saw was very scarce.
Throwing stones at armed soldiers in the middle of a high tension area known for terrorist activity is just not a good idea.
You’re smart enough that we don’t need to go through the differences between voluntarily traveling to a conflict zone and being taken hostage against y
Yeah I think it's time to put him on ignore. Even when I agree with him that this looks very bad for the IDF but that it's not execution he finds the need to argue.
Throwing stones at armed soldiers in the middle of a high tension area known for terrorist activity is just not a good idea.
We'll never agree that the correct response to throwing stones is shooting people. Even worse when they had apparently already used stun grenades and tear gas.
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Article said IDF started shooting the protestors with live ammo. Obviously very bad. Not really the same as executed. Not even sure why you're arguing against me, I'm for once agreeing with you that this looks very bad for the IDF. Basically your wet dream is coming true.
Edit: Note how I said NOTHING about her throwing stones?
Doyle is the one saying it is bc she was throwing stones or her fellow protesters were. there is nothing to indicate they were. its absurd.
I dont know what you want to call it but when a sniper puts his scope on a person's head and pulls the trigger its a lot more deliberate than people realize or the media reports. he (or she) decided to shoot this women in the head and it was no accident. I call that an execution.
Basically your wet dream is coming true.
if I said this about anything then it would be a perma fwiw
The wild thing is that Victor takes the unverified "reports" from Palestinian sources (which have almost no chance of being accurate themselves) and then decides to throw those in the trash because they aren't inflammatory enough and completely make up his own narrative. With the ultimate aim whataboutism to justify Hamas atrocities.
Who the **** knows what really happened or what rules of engagement, if any, were broken.
Again, it is wild because when you see videos of the West Bank operations, the IDF troops are completely surrounded by Palestinian "press" following them around and taking non stop pictures and videos. But then when something like the alleged event happens, there is no evidence to be found.
-How do you think AP and Reuters get pictures like this all the time. There are literally large groups of "press" following soldiers around at all times, even when they are doing operations.
-I suspect there are plenty of pictures of whatever happened, and there is a reason they aren't part of the story, as they dont fit the preferred narrative.
Yeah I think it's time to put him on ignore. Even when I agree with him that this looks very bad for the IDF but that it's not execution he finds the need to argue.
We'll never agree that the correct response to throwing stones is shooting people. Even worse when they had apparently already used stun grenades and tear gas.
Yeah, not necessarily trying to say the IDF was justified here. I didn’t feel like typing out the whole spiel. However, I’m also not too quick to judge soldiers who are coming under fire while operating in a terrorist hotspot. Like I said, there needs to be more info. It’s just obvious off the bat that the situations Victor is trying to draw comparisons between are not equivalent.
I would have muted him long ago but he’s like 50% of the thread and 90% of the non pro Israel crowd.
Lmao I made a general statement about throwing stones and said I need to see more info. Can’t tell if Victor purposefully tries to be this dishonest or if he’s just distressed and confused.
Doyle is the one saying it is bc she was throwing stones or her fellow protesters were. there is nothing to indicate they were. its absurd.
I dont know what you want to call it but when a sniper puts his scope on a person's head and pulls the trigger its a lot more deliberate than people realize or the media reports. he (or she) decided to shoot this women in the head and it was no accident. I call that an execution.
Yeah I don't get my news from tweets from randoms. Sorry.
If you have the video why not pm it to me? Seems like a good way to confirm what you're saying.
Yeah, not necessarily trying to say the IDF was justified here. I didn’t feel like typing out the whole spiel. However, I’m also not too quick to judge soldiers who are coming under fire while operating in a terrorist hotspot. Like I said, there needs to be more info. It’s just obvious off the bat that the situations Victor is trying to draw comparisons between are not equivalent.
I would have muted him long ago but he’s like 50% of th
Agreed and agreed.
I dont have video of her being shot. is that what you need to confirm?
theres video of doctors trying to save her and her bloodied head. you get your news from Jerusalem post so I dont think there is much to discuss around verifiable sources.
can you give the name of the victim so we can look for sources ourselves? just don't act as if we have a clue about you are talking about, we don't
The wild thing is that Victor takes the unverified "reports" from Palestinian sources (which have almost no chance of being accurate themselves) and then decides to throw those in the trash because they aren't inflammatory enough and completely make up his own narrative. With the ultimate aim whataboutism to justify Hamas atrocities.
Who the **** knows what really happened or what rules of engagement, if any, were broken.
Again, it is wi
Well Vic has the pics and video he’s just afraid to post it because the mod will punish him (lol what a joke).
anyone else remember when the IDF deliberately shot (better wording? happy now?) Shireen Abu Akleh in the head and then spent then blamed "terrorists"? why do you guys believe any thing they say?
I don't think a legal right to protest exists in another country tbh, i think it's rather silly to claim it exists, i don't think i want foreigners being allowed to come here and protests against anything why the **** would i ever want that, nor i will never even think of doing the same in any other country, what the actual **** is it to go to protest in another country you are not a citizen of???
I don't think a legal right to protest exists in another country tbh, i think it's rather silly to claim it exists, i don't think i want foreigners being allowed to come here and protests against anything why the **** would i ever want that, nor i will never even think of doing the same in any other country, what the actual **** is it to go to protest in another country you are not a citizen of???
what country did she go to? who shot her?
oh ok I took it differently
