2024 ELECTION THREAD
The next presidential race will be here soon! Please see current Bovada odds. Thoughts?
lol she's out there somewhere freaking out this week
is that a mlylt reference?
tbh though i'm surprised that's linked to a specific poster, i must have heard over a hundred people say that in my life
You have no idea but you're certain it's not racism. Can you explain how those two statements are consistent with each other?
can you explain how you derived the bolded? i wasn't talking about the origin of the rumor or why trump brought it up in the debate.
i said haitians are not a race. "haitians eating cats and dogs is indisputably a racial slur" is literally false. "blacks eat cats and dogs" would be. arguably the supposition that haitians eating cats and dogs is racist is racist, assuming that if a particular culture or destitute immigrant is (accused of) doing something it must ultimately be ascribed to their race.
my concern is the inverse: imagine a world where the rumor was technically true that a couple haitian immigrants (say experiencing severe poverty and calorie deficits) ate a cat or dog. does that imply that black people are predisposed to eating pets?
there was a rumor that venezuelan gangs were terrorizing apartment complexes in Aurora, CO, which was categorically denied by police. they eventually said it was a thing. should we then update and say that hispanics are predisposed to be violent thugs who take over apartment complexes? the hyperfocus on race even where race hasn't been mentioned is what troubles me.
trump bringing it up could have racist motivations and people propagating it could be racist. i think it'd be better categorized as anti-immigrant or xenophobia. i don't really care or dwell on it because it's ultimately sick that this has consumed all public focus. i believe banning discourse on it makes it a bigger brainworm. then you get people like deuces mccracken starting threads on it 25 years later
i'd like to preface by saying:
-i did not preclear this with a mod
-i respect CN, both for level of modding effort and certain IQ scores that have been disclosed
-it pains me a great deal to see so much discussion in the political sphere of haitians eating cats and dogs. i feel i'm living in a dystopian novel.
that said:
-haitians are not a race
-call me a moral relativist or POS, but it's possible the statement "Haitians eat cats/dogs/ducks = ra
If they want to provide any evidence whatsoever it can be discussed. Simply declaring it giddily is clearly racist and should not be tolerated because there is nothing to debate. As of right now it is an unsubstantiated rumor.
On another note, I think it’s horrendously bad faith to compare this to chinese wet markets being a likely source of covid 19. The two things are so categorically different it boggles the mind that any rational person could see their similarity.
On another note, I think it’s horrendously bad faith to compare this to chinese wet markets being a likely source of covid 19. The two things are so categorically different it boggles the mind that any rational person could see their similarity.
i can't follow luciom's analogy or what exactly (s)he means, but do see parallels to the covid discussion.
in summer 2020 i questioned the zoonotic "wet market" origin of covid theory, pointed to weaknesses in the Lancet Letter and Scripps paper., and cited evidence for a lab leak. trolly branded my posts racist, which were subsequently removed with 60 infraction points. racist misinformation... until it wasn't.
not saying the haitian claims are the same -- haven't seen anything to support them. but banning posts because they conflict with consensus views is counterproductive
[quote=Crossnerd]It is interesting that other posters have brought up the Chinese people eat bats analogy, as that is similarly a racial slur.[/quote]
this was absolutely the consensus NYT viewpoint in 2020... "chinese people love their bats and wet markets, pandemics inevitable, whatcha gonna do?" the lancet letter alleged claims to the contrary (virus could have originated in a lab) were racist, and the NYT science editor tweeted that lab origin views were racist
A few hundred posts itt about Haitians eating cats and dogs is really stupid, considering how uncontroversial it is that there isn't a community of Haitians in America eating cats and dogs.
NGL, I admit that I commented on Trump bringing this to the debate, but not because of the provocative nature of what he said or how false it was, but just to amplify that he believes everything he sees on the internet.
This conversation needs to end and the content needs to return to the 2024 election.
lots of racist stuff gets promoted without any evidence.
They do not, there is no credible evidence that they do, and if you continue to assert otherwise without evidence then I will ban you for racism.
[quote=smartDFS]not saying the haitian claims are the same -- haven't seen anything to support them[/quote]
am i in the twilight zone
so back on ELECTION 2024: trump has declared there will be no third debate. i believe this is false and we'll see another debate. wednesday he made multiple interviews saying "if you want a rematch that means you're a prize fighter who lost and wants another chance", absolutely talking to himself. rather than 1s and 0s, he sees the world in winners and losers, and only losers would refuse an open invitation to another debate. he will find a way to frame it as landing on a debate on his terms, where he'll spew more nonsensical drivel
this was absolutely the consensus NYT viewpoint in 2020... "chinese people love their bats and wet markets, pandemics inevitable, whatcha gonna do?" the lancet letter alleged claims to the contrary (virus could have originated in a lab) were racist, and the NYT science editor tweeted that lab origin views were racist
i don't know how many times i had to explain to people that not once had i ever seen bat anywhere on either a menu or at a market - not all of it was here, but chinese eat bats and that's why we have covid was the common mantra of the time
i don't know how many times i had to explain to people that not once had i ever seen bat anywhere on either a menu or at a market - not all of it was here, but chinese eat bats and that's why we have covid was the common mantra of the time
the beat goes on as prime academics and motivated charlatans continue wet market theory, just with different or more exotic animals
ELECTION 2024: i visited trump's twitter for research and got a bizarre crypto commercial with trump endorsing it. my first thought is this has been hacked with AI-gen vid and the hackers are pumping their rando currency to rugpull. googled it and saw its real life. my second thought is trump has no intentions of serving a 2nd term and is in this to promote his new crypto, NFT, and DJT stock scams.
I'm calling bullshit.
It seems to charge your battery.
You've wrapped up your entire internet identity in it.
Is it because you were a late bloomer? Making up for lost time or is this shtick all penance for being a shitlib for so long? Nothing wrong with either. Just curious.
