$25----->25k Bankroll Challenge on Ignition

$25----->25k Bankroll Challenge on Ignition

I am going to be starting with $25 in my Ignition Account and try to spin it up to $25,000.

I will start at 5nl since it is the lowest stake on the site and be playing Ignition Reg tables only.

I will be updating every 5k hands with my progress.

My expectation for each limit is as follows:

Expected Winrates for each limit:

5NL: 30bb/100

10NL: 25bb/100

25NL: 20bb/100

50NL: 15bb/100

100NL: 12bb/100

200NL: 10bb/100

Variance will be a decent factor in a lot of these winrates but these are just ball park numbers. Once I hit 25k I will take a 10buyin shot at 500nl! As far as moving up I'll move up whenever I feel like it, but probably after winning 30-40 buyins at the limit.

There will be no cherry picking here since you can't cherry pick a Bankroll Challenge. Wish me luck (or not) and follow along in this thread.

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19 April 2024 at 06:36 AM
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Makes sense if you think about it. I should go smaller though.

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD 2 Poker Tracking Software

NL Holdem 0.25(BB)
BTN ($52.47) [VPIP: 23.1% | PFR: 21.8% | AGG: 59.1% | Hands: 81]
SB ($58.33) [VPIP: 17.9% | PFR: 14.8% | AGG: 23.4% | Hands: 2498]
BB ($25.25) [VPIP: 20% | PFR: 16.7% | AGG: 47.4% | Flop Agg: 22.2% | Turn Agg: 57.1% | 3Bet: 21.7% | 4Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 7.1% | Hands: 66]
UTG ($48.60) [VPIP: 26.8% | PFR: 21.4% | AGG: 58.8% | Hands: 56]
HERO ($37.10) [VPIP: 27.8% | PFR: 23.4% | AGG: 38.9% | Flop Agg: 42.8% | Turn Agg: 35.2% | 3Bet: 10.1% | 4Bet: 11.7% | Hands: 88776]
CO ($32.02) [VPIP: 19.7% | PFR: 15.8% | AGG: 21.3% | Hands: 428]

Dealt to Hero: 7 7

UTG Folds, HERO Raises To $0.50, CO Folds, BTN Folds, SB Folds, BB Calls $0.25

Hero SPR on Flop: [22.5 effective]
Flop ($1.10): J T Q
BB Checks, HERO Bets $0.55 (Rem. Stack: $36.05), BB Calls $0.55 (Rem. Stack: $24.20)

Turn ($2.20): J T Q A
BB Checks, HERO Bets $1.65 (Rem. Stack: $34.40)


by DooDooPoker P

Hand update, try not to laugh at how pathetic my volume is.

Ignition:


25nl Blitz so far:


Will update at 10k hands.

Thats it this is all you played since starting in april? 338 bucks that's it or is this one month? You will be 100 years old by the time you get to 25k. At least 100k hands a month. You have all the tools and free coaching on here to make some good money. You just have to ramp up the volume and you will get to 25k in a few months. It is obvious you are a good player why not put in more volume?


by MicroDonkYT P

The equity of AK is still high vs a range that has too much QQ/JJ, though, because of removal. It might lower it, but calling is still better than folding.

Ofc, its not clear why calling would be better then jamming.


by iburydoscocaroaches P

Thats it this is all you played since starting in april? 338 bucks that's it or is this one month? You will be 100 years old by the time you get to 25k. At least 100k hands a month. You have all the tools and free coaching on here to make some good money. You just have to ramp up the volume and you will get to 25k in a few months. It is obvious you are a good player why not put in more volume?

ty. I am starting to ramp up volume this month. Goal is 2k hands a day for now. I'll be posting a weekly recap on Saturday.


I was looking at another PGC by a very good player and one of his HH's really interested me.

HH here.


I like the bluff when the flush draw bricks out but I want to look at it from villain's perspective.

If your opponent is betting B20 then you should be only folding 20% of your range OTF in GTO, even hands like A4ss are 0EV continues so you need to make sure you don't overfold.

Secondly, when your opponent bets turn when the top pair or 2nd/3rd card pairs the board. It is overbluffed compared to the aggregate.

Here is 3BP OOP PFR BlindsvsCO MDA overall for B30-B:


BlindsvsCO MDA filtered for top card and 2nd/3rd card pairing.


So what does that mean?

That means you need to develop raising ranges OTT here. If you look at frequencies for B30-B you see it over bluffed but also over folded (this is not a given just because something is overbluffed).

You should take a hand like AJ/AT and turn it into a raise OTT. A solver mixes here but as an exploit we should be 100% raising.

It's a good idea to look at MDA turn barrels and figure out what turns are over barreled and under barreled. Then we can start developing strategies for 3BP IP PFC turn play that will gain us EV vs the population.

Another spot that is very overbluffed OTT (the most overbluffed turn) is the pairing OTT when the board is low. We notice the turn paired trend vs the double barrel being over barreled and overfolded but it is even more so on 9 high boards or lower.

We can look at a solver and find all the mixed raises OTT and pure raise them in game to max exploit this tendency.

Okay just wanted to put this here so I remember it.


lol wtf. I learned something new today. This spot is a range X or at least high frequency X.

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD 2 Poker HUD and Database Software

NL Holdem 0.25(BB)
BTN ($30.10) [VPIP: 20% | PFR: 20% | AGG: 50% | Hands: 30]
HERO ($33.65) [VPIP: 27.8% | PFR: 23.4% | AGG: 38.9% | Flop Agg: 42.8% | Turn Agg: 35.2% | River Agg: 41.1% | 3Bet: 10.1% | Fold to 3Bet: 57.2% | 4Bet: 11.7% | Hands: 89085]
BB ($25.80) [VPIP: 22.7% | PFR: 20.5% | AGG: 41.4% | Hands: 1135]
UTG ($35.55) [VPIP: 25.9% | PFR: 22.6% | AGG: 36.3% | Flop Agg: 33.8% | Turn Agg: 37.2% | River Agg: 51.9% | 3Bet: 11.2% | 4Bet: 20% | Hands: 617]
HJ ($30.11) [VPIP: 20.1% | PFR: 15.2% | AGG: 29.2% | Hands: 3279]
CO ($30) [VPIP: 24.7% | PFR: 16.5% | AGG: 51.9% | Hands: 90]

Dealt to Hero: J J

UTG Raises To $0.60, HJ Folds, CO Folds, BTN Folds, HERO Raises To $2.75, BB Folds, UTG Calls $2.15

Hero SPR on Flop: [5.37 effective]
Flop ($5.75): Q T 9
HERO ?



by DooDooPoker P

lol wtf. I learned something new today. This spot is a range X or at least high frequency X.

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD 2 Poker HUD and Database Software

NL Holdem 0.25(BB)
BTN ($30.10) [VPIP: 20% | PFR: 20% | AGG: 50% | Hands: 30]
HERO ($33.65) [VPIP: 27.8% | PFR: 23.4% | AGG: 38.9% | Flop Agg: 42.8% | Turn Agg: 35.2% | River Agg: 41.1% | 3Bet: 10.1% | Fold to 3Bet: 57.2% | 4Bet: 11.7% | Hands: 89085]
BB ($25.80)


This spot is highly sensitive to preflop ranges.





Okay this is exactly what I am talking about. The paired turn is over barreled and over folded. We should be 100% raising this hand as a default. Play like a champion.

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD 2 Poker Tracking Software

NL Holdem 0.25(BB)
BTN ($28.32) [VPIP: 19.9% | PFR: 15.9% | AGG: 34% | Hands: 865]
SB ($71.04) [VPIP: 23.1% | PFR: 19.7% | AGG: 37.1% | Hands: 396]
BB ($47.50) [VPIP: 26.7% | PFR: 23.1% | AGG: 45% | Flop Agg: 42.3% | Turn Agg: 38.9% | 3Bet: 25% | Fold to 3Bet: 25% | 4Bet: 50% | Hands: 199]
UTG ($21.20) [VPIP: 25% | PFR: 25% | AGG: 133.3% | Hands: 9]
HJ ($29.20) [VPIP: 20% | PFR: 20% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 26]
HERO ($64.61) [VPIP: 27.9% | PFR: 23.4% | AGG: 38.9% | Flop Agg: 42.7% | Turn Agg: 35.1% | 3Bet: 10.1% | 4Bet: 11.6% | Hands: 90327]

Dealt to Hero: 9 T

UTG Folds, HJ Folds, HERO Raises To $0.50, BTN Folds, SB Folds, BB Raises To $2, HERO Calls $1.50

Hero SPR on Flop: [11.1 effective]
Flop ($4.10): 8 2 J
BB Bets $1.95 (Rem. Stack: $43.55), HERO Calls $1.95 (Rem. Stack: $60.66)

Turn ($8): 8 2 J J
BB Bets $3.60 (Rem. Stack: $39.95), HERO Raises To $10.30 (Rem. Stack: $50.36), BB Folds

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HERO wins: $14.44


Okay end of week 1 recap. We managed to get in 2k hands a day while 2 tabling. I am still bluff catching too much versus the low W$WSF guys but I am slowly getting better.

I'll probably play tomorrow a bit and then take Sunday off. I am working with my buddy next week so I won't be able to resume the challenge until next Friday.

Have a good weekend.



while you're taking a break from posting hands ill take this opportunity to post one of mine from the same player pool ehehe



I borrowed the 3bet bluff idea from you (in a different node but I imagine population has trouble slowplaying value so maybe similar exploits apply), thoughts MDA wise is that population won't check back enough high EQ draws and check back enough sets, plus the low board is a bonus. So I feel like their range is super weak and we have a good bluff candidate anyways so decided to 3bet this pure as an exploit, question is do we generally follow through river if we get called in this spots that we 3bet turn?


by TheRealHobo P

while you're taking a break from posting hands ill take this opportunity to post one of mine from the same player pool ehehe



I borrowed the 3bet bluff idea from you (in a different node but I imagine population has trouble slowplaying value so maybe similar exploits apply), thoughts MDA wise is that population won't check back enough high EQ draws and check back enough sets, plus the low board is a bonus. So I feel like their range is supe

I like it. I don't like IP's raise at all.

I would give up OTR but I haven't looked at data for this spot that is just me thinking they underfold because the turn is overfolded.


Oh yeah here's a spot I got owned by one of those tight multitabling russian guys, I'd usually fold this but something in my brain fked up and I thought he had some sick exploit cuz I've seen him 10x pot into me before where I've always folded. Another factor was he snap called me on the flop which heavily discounts sets imo but more studied regs will slowplay value more ig. Should of just trusted my notes its prob always a set here probably can fold almost range vs this line from this player type.



by TheRealHobo P

Oh yeah here's a spot I got owned by one of those tight multitabling russian guys, I'd usually fold this but something in my brain fked up and I thought he had some sick exploit cuz I've seen him 10x pot into me before where I've always folded. Another factor was he snap called me on the flop which heavily discounts sets imo but more studied regs will slowplay value more ig. Should of just trusted my notes its prob always a set here probabl

Tough spot but a good metric when thinking about bluff catching is to look at WWSF.

It’s possible he has the same hand as you but you can probably fold. You could run JJ/TT/55/JT in equilab to see your equity.

It is kind of gross how tight you have to be versus certain lines in this pool but we more than make up for this with red lining all the nits.


When MDA goes wrong

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD 2 Poker Tracking Software

NL Holdem 0.25(BB)
BTN ($34.15) [VPIP: 18.8% | PFR: 16.8% | AGG: 45.6% | Hands: 635]
SB ($25) [VPIP: 22.7% | PFR: 19.1% | AGG: 31.5% | Flop Agg: 31% | Turn Agg: 37% | River Agg: 29.4% | 3Bet: 8% | 4Bet: 27.8% | Fold to 4Bet: 0% | Hands: 409]
HERO ($32.20) [VPIP: 27.9% | PFR: 23.4% | AGG: 38.8% | Flop Agg: 42.6% | Turn Agg: 35% | River Agg: 41.1% | 3Bet: 10.1% | Fold to 3Bet: 57.4% | 4Bet: 11.5% | Hands: 91948]
UTG ($30) [VPIP: 24.5% | PFR: 18.4% | AGG: 44.9% | Hands: 1218]
HJ ($29.41) [VPIP: 50% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 200% | Hands: 2]
CO ($37.22) [VPIP: 13.6% | PFR: 9.1% | AGG: 22.2% | Hands: 45]

Dealt to Hero: K J

UTG Folds, HJ Folds, CO Folds, BTN Folds, SB Raises To $0.75, HERO Raises To $2.45, SB Raises To $5.39, HERO Calls $2.94

Hero SPR on Flop: [1.82 effective]
Flop ($10.78): 9 4 8
SB Checks, HERO Bets $2.69 (Rem. Stack: $24.12), SB Calls $2.69 (Rem. Stack: $16.92)

Turn ($16.16): 9 4 8 8
SB Checks, HERO Checks

River ($16.16): 9 4 8 8 2
SB Checks, HERO Bets $24.12 (allin), SB Calls $16.92 (allin)

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SB shows: T 9

SB wins: $47.50


Don't bluff raise here vs B30. They overcall.


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NL Holdem 0.25(BB)
BTN ($25) [VPIP: 22.3% | PFR: 16.5% | AGG: 51.2% | Flop Agg: 42.1% | Turn Agg: 50% | River Agg: 77.8% | 3Bet: 10.7% | 4Bet: 0% | Hands: 144]
SB ($18.70) [VPIP: 20.5% | PFR: 15.9% | AGG: 21.4% | Hands: 45]
HERO ($34.94) [VPIP: 27.9% | PFR: 23.4% | AGG: 38.8% | Flop Agg: 42.6% | Turn Agg: 35% | River Agg: 41.1% | 3Bet: 10.1% | 4Bet: 11.5% | Cold Call: 9.9% | Hands: 91948]
UTG ($26.47) [VPIP: 32.1% | PFR: 27.1% | AGG: 51.1% | Hands: 146]
HJ ($27.16) [VPIP: 19% | PFR: 16.9% | AGG: 27.9% | Hands: 643]
CO ($30) [VPIP: 24.5% | PFR: 18.4% | AGG: 44.9% | Hands: 1218]

Dealt to Hero: 4 K

UTG Folds, HJ Folds, CO Folds, BTN Raises To $0.62, SB Folds, HERO Calls $0.37

Hero SPR on Flop: [18.19 effective]
Flop ($1.34): 4 8 8
HERO Checks, BTN Bets $0.42 (Rem. Stack: $23.96), HERO Calls $0.42 (Rem. Stack: $33.90)

Turn ($2.18): 4 8 8 T
HERO Checks, BTN Bets $3.12 (Rem. Stack: $20.84), HERO Calls $3.12 (Rem. Stack: $30.78)

River ($8.42): 4 8 8 T 5
HERO Checks, BTN Bets $2.64 (Rem. Stack: $18.20), HERO Folds

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BTN wins: $8


I wonder if my river bluff isn't great and my opponent is calling more than he should be. He snap called which makes me think I shouldn't have any river bluffs in this spot. I like flop and turn though.

I think flop is especially good since they are supposed to fold less than 10% of their range.

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD 2 Poker Tracking Software

NL Holdem 0.25(BB)
BTN ($62.41) [VPIP: 23.8% | PFR: 20.2% | AGG: 32.9% | Hands: 1161]
HERO ($39.04) [VPIP: 27.9% | PFR: 23.4% | AGG: 38.8% | Flop Agg: 42.6% | Turn Agg: 35% | River Agg: 41.1% | 3Bet: 10.1% | 4Bet: 11.5% | Hands: 92142]
BB ($25) [VPIP: 20.3% | PFR: 16.6% | AGG: 26.7% | Flop Agg: 30% | Turn Agg: 29.6% | River Agg: 21.1% | 3Bet: 8.8% | Fold to 3Bet: 36.4% | 4Bet: 18.2% | Hands: 396]
UTG ($51.40) [VPIP: 24.2% | PFR: 20.4% | AGG: 38.6% | Hands: 561]
HJ ($33.64) [VPIP: 22.2% | PFR: 16.7% | AGG: 42.1% | Hands: 132]
CO ($26.82) [VPIP: 23.9% | PFR: 21.7% | AGG: 42.3% | Hands: 280]

Dealt to Hero: K Q

UTG Folds, HJ Folds, CO Folds, BTN Folds, HERO Raises To $0.75, BB Raises To $2.50, HERO Calls $1.75

Hero SPR on Flop: [4.5 effective]
Flop ($5): 5 6 4
HERO Bets $1.25 (Rem. Stack: $35.29), BB Calls $1.25 (Rem. Stack: $21.25)

Turn ($7.50): 5 6 4 7
HERO Bets $2.47 (Rem. Stack: $32.82), BB Calls $2.47 (Rem. Stack: $18.78)

River ($12.44): 5 6 4 7 T
HERO Bets $9.33 (Rem. Stack: $23.49), BB Calls $9.33 (Rem. Stack: $9.45)

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BB shows: 6 A

BB wins: $29.55


by DooDooPoker P

I wonder if my river bluff isn't great and my opponent is calling more than he should be. He snap called which makes me think I shouldn't have any river bluffs in this spot. I like flop and turn though.

I think flop is especially good since they are supposed to fold less than 10% of their range.

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NL Holdem 0.25(BB)
BTN ($62.41) [VPIP: 23.8% | PFR: 20.2% | AGG: 3

I feel like you if you got snapped here the opp is either really stationy or has a note on you, this seems quite unusual. It could also be a bot but I don't know enough about bot profiles on acr to make any legitimate conclusions. But the snap call says way more about your opp than your bluff imo


by TheRealHobo P

I feel like you if you got snapped here the opp is either really stationy or has a note on you, this seems quite unusual. It could also be a bot but I don't know enough about bot profiles on acr to make any legitimate conclusions. But the snap call says way more about your opp than your bluff imo

No one takes this line with value, and villain blocks a good portion of value OP could have. The thing about exploits is that you open yourself up to losing more than you stand to win if you’re wrong.


by MicroDonkYT P

No one takes this line with value, and villain blocks a good portion of value OP could have. The thing about exploits is that you open yourself up to losing more than you stand to win if you’re wrong.

I agree with that with exploitative play we are vulnerable to getting countered and villain's hand has good blocker properties but I don't necessarily agree that this is not a value line. I'm not very experienced with donk bet lines but I am generally using small cbet size turn on 4straight boards which is the preferred size in gto. That being said im not sure if this line is winning but still not a snap call spot w A6s imo. Its also possible im just alot more paranoid in 4 straight boards than the average reg in this pool because of data.


by TheRealHobo P

I feel like you if you got snapped here the opp is either really stationy or has a note on you, this seems quite unusual. It could also be a bot but I don't know enough about bot profiles on acr to make any legitimate conclusions. But the snap call says way more about your opp than your bluff imo

I think his call is good because I don’t have many straights in my range.

My adjustment moving forward will be to play this line much more merged and put all sets/two pair but no bluffs in similar sizing.

It’s a rare spot but once you get past the common spots, I think a lot of the edge you generate from regs is who has thought about and been in these rare spots more often. And that only comes from putting in a lot of volume (but not mindless volume).

Also the river is quite bad to bluff. A FCR would be better with a blocker but I’m still not even sure that would be profitable either once the turn is called.


I think I've talked about this before but still haven't figured it out. Here is another spot that I 100% **** up. Not betting merged OTT here. I think a lot of people fall into this trap like I have, of basically not betting 99/JJ/Tx ever which is why as IP you don't want to stab as often as theory since they have more merged hands than they should.

ATs gets barreled in theory at 100% frequency.

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD 2

Software

NL Holdem 0.25(BB)
BTN ($31.07) [VPIP: 18.8% | PFR: 14.5% | AGG: 19% | Hands: 71]
HERO ($35.13) [VPIP: 27.9% | PFR: 23.4% | AGG: 38.7% | Flop Agg: 42.6% | Turn Agg: 35% | 3Bet: 10.1% | Fold to 3Bet: 57.4% | 4Bet: 11.4% | Hands: 92301]
BB ($32.44) [VPIP: 18.1% | PFR: 16.2% | AGG: 29.4% | Hands: 766]
UTG ($30.35) [VPIP: 15.4% | PFR: 11.5% | AGG: 28.6% | Hands: 53]
HJ ($36.68) [VPIP: 23.5% | PFR: 20.8% | AGG: 37.5% | Flop Agg: 48.1% | Turn Agg: 35% | 3Bet: 13.4% | 4Bet: 40% | Hands: 264]
CO ($45.67) [VPIP: 17.9% | PFR: 15.1% | AGG: 23.3% | Hands: 3199]

Dealt to Hero: A T

UTG Folds, HJ Raises To $0.62, CO Folds, BTN Folds, HERO Raises To $3.01, BB Folds, HJ Calls $2.39

Hero SPR on Flop: [5.12 effective]
Flop ($6.27): 8 K T
HERO Bets $1.25 (Rem. Stack: $30.87), HJ Calls $1.25 (Rem. Stack: $32.42)

Turn ($8.77): 8 K T 7
HERO ?

Turn solution:



Be very weary of these Small Donk leads OTR when you have a polarized range, it is almost always to induce a raise.

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and Database Software

NL Holdem 0.25(BB)
BTN ($36.15) [VPIP: 27.9% | PFR: 22.2% | AGG: 43.5% | Hands: 841]
SB ($56.55) [VPIP: 22.5% | PFR: 14.8% | AGG: 34% | Flop Agg: 30% | Turn Agg: 38.2% | River Agg: 38.1% | 3Bet: 8.6% | 4Bet: 15.4% | Cold Call: 15.9% | Hands: 306]
BB ($28.28) [VPIP: 40% | PFR: 20% | AGG: 0% | Flop Agg: 0% | Turn Agg: 0% | River Agg: 0% | 3Bet: 0% | 4Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 50% | Hands: 5]
UTG ($64.66) [VPIP: 17.8% | PFR: 10.4% | AGG: 30.7% | Hands: 385]
HJ ($25) [VPIP: 20.2% | PFR: 15.2% | AGG: 29.1% | Hands: 3691]
HERO ($32.39) [VPIP: 27.9% | PFR: 23.4% | AGG: 38.8% | Flop Agg: 42.6% | Turn Agg: 35% | River Agg: 41.1% | 3Bet: 10.1% | 4Bet: 11.4% | Hands: 92556]

Dealt to Hero: T T

UTG Folds, HJ Folds, HERO Raises To $0.60, BTN Folds, SB Calls $0.50, BB Calls $0.35

Hero SPR on Flop: [15.38 effective]
Flop ($1.80): 3 T A
SB Checks, BB Checks, HERO Bets $0.45 (Rem. Stack: $31.34), SB Calls $0.45 (Rem. Stack: $55.50), BB Calls $0.45 (Rem. Stack: $27.23)

Turn ($3.15): 3 T A 2
SB Checks, BB Checks, HERO Bets $3.15 (Rem. Stack: $28.19), SB Calls $3.15 (Rem. Stack: $52.35), BB Folds

River ($9.45): 3 T A 2 6
SB Bets $1.46 (Rem. Stack: $50.89), HERO Raises To $28.19 (allin), SB Calls $26.73 (Rem. Stack: $24.16)

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SB shows: T A

HERO wins: $62.83


The more I play this game the more I realize how much EV we lose playing GTO preflop vs population.

Here is one instance.

GTO will 100% jam AKo here, but the problem is your hand looks exactly like what it is and all JJ/TT and maybe even 99 calls you.

So instead as an exploit you should jam AA/KK/QQ to take advantage of this tendency.

There's many more situations like this where you need to change your sizing/frequency based on your exact opponent.

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and Database Software

NL Holdem 0.25(BB)
BTN ($28.87) [VPIP: 18.8% | PFR: 14% | AGG: 31.1% | Hands: 1045]
SB ($29.75) [VPIP: 25.1% | PFR: 18.7% | AGG: 30.1% | Hands: 792]
BB ($40.45) [VPIP: 15.2% | PFR: 11.5% | AGG: 30.6% | Hands: 330]
UTG ($33.15) [VPIP: 24.7% | PFR: 20.6% | AGG: 37.7% | Hands: 629]
HERO ($38.94) [VPIP: 27.8% | PFR: 23.4% | AGG: 38.8% | Hands: 93231]
CO ($25) [VPIP: 18.3% | PFR: 10.3% | AGG: 38.5% | Hands: 401]

Dealt to Hero: A A

UTG Folds, HERO Raises To $0.50, CO Raises To $2.15, BTN Folds, SB Folds, BB Folds, HERO Raises To $38.94 (allin), CO Calls $22.85 (allin)

Flop ($64.29): 3 3 T

Turn ($64.29): 3 3 T 8

River ($64.29): 3 3 T 8 2

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CO shows: J J

HERO wins: $47.84

Let's say this is my jamming range and this is his calling range. He has 34% equity vs my jam. He needs around 45%-46%.

So he is absolutely punting by calling off JJ here, it's a 11-12bb mistake. He can't really know this in game but these situations happen somewhat frequently in fast fold.



I don't think we should try to play perfect gto preflop, but that's not really how it works. To illustrate -- per your logic, if we jam AA only, villain calling JJ would be a 50bb mistake!!! Villain even calling KK would be a 50bb mistake!!! We can construct our jamming range such that even calling KK is a huge ev punt! Wow! If we jam KK+, villain calling KK is still a 45bb mistake!

This is a one-dimensional and relatively poor way to think about the game. It's not some deep insight that jamming a stronger range will cause villain's standard calls to lose ev. We should have better reasons than this to justify preflop deviations.


by DooDooPoker P

The more I play this game the more I realize how much EV we lose playing GTO preflop vs population.

Here is one instance.

GTO will 100% jam AKo here, but the problem is your hand looks exactly like what it is and all JJ/TT and maybe even 99 calls you.

So instead as an exploit you should jam AA/KK/QQ to take advantage of this tendency.

There's many more situations like this where you need to change your sizing/frequency based on your exact op


This is fine in anonymous games, but vs anyone paying attention, the jig will be up, soon. I don’t expect many to pay attention at 25nl, but there’s a lot of good players at 200nl.


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