ex-President Trump
I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?
So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at low-info Boomers like my religions aunts. I have two questions:
a) Is anyone here who supports Trump bothered by lies like this?
b) Does anyone know what he's even talking about here? Like is there some grain of truth that he's embellishing on bigly?
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I'm guessing rappers for trump carries the swing states. Game over.
Trump partied with Jeffrey Epstein - by your logic that means Trump likes pedophiles.
If the party happened when Epstein pedophily was already broadly known publicly then ... yes? (not sure if that's the case though).
While if someone gets depicted as a racist for year, and prominent non -white people meet with him gladly in many occasions anyway, that is actually proof that he probably isn't that racist.
It's not "but he had black friends", more like "a lot of non white people like him a lot", which is rare for a racist.
Trump is crushing it in the token black friends department.
Then I'd question the polling data that has Latinos voting trump. In 2022 voting data has them voting Democrat 2-1. They voted for Biden in 2020.
What do you think has changed in the last 2 years to shift from 2-1 to less than 50%?
Then I'd question the polling data that has Latinos voting trump. In 2022 voting data has them voting Democrat 2-1. They voted for Biden in 2020.
What do you think has changed in the last 2 years to shift from 2-1 to less than 50%?
The polling data has latinos *approving Trump* more than Biden, and it's from Usa today, reported by the Guardian, not a right-leaning source.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024...
Not all adults vote, especially in midterms, not all adults vote according to their approval: they can dislike someone more than someone else but still vote for the disliked person for other reasons.
But keep in mind this was about the claim of "racism". If Person X is liked more than person Y by a non-white group is quite hard to believe claims that person X is more racist than person Y toward that group, isn't it? and given most accusations of racism toward Trump stem from his rethoric about border controls, and the land border is mostly about latinos... if latinos themselves tell you, resoundingly, that they don't hate Trump that much, maybe you should believe them.
Inflation terrifies voters in general, but my guess is it terrifies latinos more than most, because many of them come (personally, or their relatives) from countries annihilated at their core by
inflation caused by politicians mistakes.
When you have, in your family history (or your lived experience) tasted the absolute horror of inflation-driven economic catastrophe, it's almost rational to be extremely paranoid about it and react violently to the inflation bout the USA just experienced, even if many elements were different from those that destroyed south american nations.
Inflation terrifies voters in general, but my guess is it terrifies latinos more than most, because many of them come (personally, or their relatives) from countries annihilated at their core by
inflation caused by politicians mistakes.
When you have, in your family history (or your lived experience) tasted the absolute horror of inflation-driven economic catastrophe, it's almost rational to be extremely paranoid about it and react violently
Inflation is a direct result of printing money to provide 'socialist' handouts during Covid, under Trump. Inflation has been curbed, under Biden, due to economic tightening.
So do you think they have succumbed to propaganda or do you think they are just illiterate in macro economics?
Both?
So Gaetz is explicitly saying he likes non white men more than white women, and the takeaway is that's racist? lol
Inflation is a direct result of printing money to provide 'socialist' handouts during Covid, under Trump. Inflation has been curbed, under Biden, due to economic tightening.
So do you think they have succumbed to propaganda or do you think they are just illiterate in macro economics?
Both?
Most voters, unless they are "permanent tribe members" (ie people who always vote for "their party" no matter what), consider the incumbent personally responsible for current macroeconomic conditions.
That's a very well known bias that applies to most voters, most of the times, it's not a latino-exclusive thing at all.
Speaking of avoiding propaganda, the "socialist" handouts were fully bipartisan at the beginning (2020 covid relief act, 96-0 in the senate), and fully partisan in 2021 (american rescue act) , 50-49 in the senate fully on party lines.
So if you believe that those decisions caused inflation, then the blame is on both parties, then on democrats alone, objectively.
Inflation terrifies voters in general, but my guess is it terrifies latinos more than most, because many of them come (personally, or their relatives) from countries annihilated at their core by
inflation caused by politicians mistakes.
When you have, in your family history (or your lived experience) tasted the absolute horror of inflation-driven economic catastrophe, it's almost rational to be extremely paranoid about it and react violently
Inflation is certainly an issue. Unfortunately, very few understand what the real causes are and simply blame the president, who has very little to do with it.
I will say that voters tend to have the attention span of a gnat. For the most part, inflation is back under control. You can't wave a magic wand and have prices go back to what they were. Doesn't work and you don't want deflation anyway. I dunno, I think this will be less and less of an issue moving forward.
Inflation is certainly an issue. Unfortunately, very few understand what the real causes are and simply blame the president, who has very little to do with it.
I will say that voters tend to have the attention span of a gnat. For the most part, inflation is back under control. You can't wave a magic wand and have prices go back to what they were. Doesn't work and you don't want deflation anyway. I dunno, I think this will be less and les
Democrats prospects are currently improving, michigan consumer sentiment index is growing very fast recently (from abysmal numbers), Biden approval/popularity will certainly grow at least a bit from that.
The scenario right now has almost identical odds for trump and biden (or other democrats ), but odds should shift marginally in democrats favour, unless ofc some new negative macro event happens.
Most voters, unless they are "permanent tribe members" (ie people who always vote for "their party" no matter what), consider the incumbent personally responsible for current macroeconomic conditions.
That's a very well known bias that applies to most voters, most of the times, it's not a latino-exclusive thing at all.
Speaking of avoiding propaganda, the "socialist" handouts were fully bipartisan at the beginning (2020 covid relief act, 96-
Yeah the Republicans were happy to hand out money when they could take the credit for it and where vehemently against it when Biden was going to get the credit.
That's how the Republicans operate.
The propaganda is about Biden / Trump even being responsible for inflation, not that Republicans are to blame.
Its like blaming Biden for gas prices
