2024 ELECTION THREAD
The next presidential race will be here soon! Please see current Bovada odds. Thoughts?
But dictator? lol the guy could care less about 90%+ of the actual powers of the presidency and did far less with them than most other presidents
lol he's arguing in court today that as a former president he should be absolutely immune from criminal prosecution, you could not be more incorrect here.
Would you agree in the national interest of the country and the risk of a Donald Trump presidency Joe Biden should step down as the candidate ? If not than does Joe Biden actually care about the national interest of the country if Trump being President will destroy democracy knowing he has a very good chance of losing
it's very obviously too late for any of that. and Biden can beat trump. i want to know where these additional votes are coming from that trump didnt have in 2020. the media highlighting random nonsense polls is one thing, but where are the election results that say republicans have been making up any ground anywhere?
it's very obviously too late for any of that. and Biden can beat trump. i want to know where these additional votes are coming from that trump didnt have in 2020. the media highlighting random nonsense polls is one thing, but where are the election results that say republicans have been making up any ground anywhere?
I think he could step down and bring in Gavin Newsom and perform better than Biden . Though it is to late for a primary.
Your right Biden's no lock nor is Trump though it shouldn't even be close
You don't understand how Trump operates. When Trump was in office, he didn't care about extending the power of the White House or trampling on separation of powers as a matter of principle or policy. He also was not motivated by some gauzy vision of an autocratic future for the country after he was gone.
Trump's feeling about how much power the president should have are entirely personal to him. When he was in office, he believed that th
Most Biden voters would switch to Trump if those two were exactly as they are now but it was known that Trump would somehow wave a magic wand and bring gas down to $2 a gallon (without changing anything else from what he would otherwise do) while it would stay the same under Biden.
This is not a post about gasoline.
it's very obviously too late for any of that. and Biden can beat trump. i want to know where these additional votes are coming from that trump didnt have in 2020. the media highlighting random nonsense polls is one thing, but where are the election results that say republicans have been making up any ground anywhere?
Turnout will be lower in 2024 vs 2020 because a lot of places won't allow voting from home for people without severe illnesses or other impediments.
That will damage democrats.
Trump is also gaining among minorities males vs 2020.
Biden is gaining among independent women, non married ones especially, and is holding well among senior whites.
Georgia went to Biden by 0.1 (tiny margin) in 2020, went republican for governor by 7 points 2 years later, with the incumbent governor doing 5 points of gap better than in 2018.
lol he's arguing in court today that as a former president he should be absolutely immune from criminal prosecution, you could not be more incorrect here.
He wants to do the **** he wants, doesn't mean that what he wants is being an autocrat.
He just wants to play golf while sychopants praise him on the field and on the media and on the internet
Most Biden voters would switch to Trump if those two were exactly as they are now but it was known that Trump could somehow bring gas down to $2 a gallon while it would stay the same under Biden.
Most Trump voters would murder their own family if offered a $20 gift card at Golden Corral.
Most Biden voters would switch to Trump if those two were exactly as they are now but it was known that Trump would somehow wave a magic wand and bring gas down to $2 a gallon (without changing anything else from what he would otherwise do) while it would stay the same under Biden.
Most!!!!
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Most Biden voters would switch to Trump if those two were exactly as they are now but it was known that Trump would somehow wave a magic wand and bring gas down to $2 a gallon (without changing anything else from what he would otherwise do) while it would stay the same under Biden.
This is not a post about gasoline.
I don't know why this post was directed at me, but let me get this straight. You are suggesting that if Trump could reduce gas prices by $2, then he would win the upcoming election by something on the order of 50 percentage points. Is that correct?
Would you agree in the national interest of the country and the risk of a Donald Trump presidency Joe Biden should step down as the candidate ? If not than does Joe Biden actually care about the national interest of the country if Trump being President will destroy democracy knowing he has a very good chance of losing
At this late juncture, I would not agree. If Biden stepped down now, I think that it would increase the risk of a Trump presidency.
One year ago, I think that it might well have been in the national interest for Biden to announce that he would be a one-term president. I would characterize his decision not to make such an announcement as an error in judgment, not an indication that he lacked concern for the national interest.
Caring about the national interest is not a high bar. Every president in my lifetime except for Trump cared about the national interest. I am not suggesting that every decision those presidents made in fact furthered the national interest. And occasionally, presidents intentionally act in a way that is contrary to the national interest. Clinton lying under oath would be an example.
But all those presidents distinguished between the national interest and their personal interest. Trump doesn't even recognize the distinction.
He wants to do the **** he wants, doesn't mean that what he wants is being an autocrat.
He just wants to play golf while sychopants praise him on the field and on the media and on the internet
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Heri...
The foundation also leads a constellation of groups named Project 2025, preparing for the possible election of Donald Trump in 2024. The project seeks to recruit thousands to come to Washington and prepare to dismantle and reshape the federal government closer to Trump's vision. Former Trump administration official Russell Vought, who is involved in the project, said, "The president Day One will be a wrecking ball for the administrative state."[88][89][90] It includes changes "for nearly every agency across the government",
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_...
Project 2025 is a plan to reshape the executive branch of the U.S. federal government in the event of a Republican victory in the 2024 U.S. presidential election.[2][3] Established in 2022, the project seeks to recruit tens of thousands of conservatives to Washington, D.C., to replace existing federal civil service workers it characterizes as the "deep state", to further the objectives of the next Republican president.[4] Although participants in the project cannot promote a specific presidential candidate, many have close ties to Donald Trump and the Trump 2024 presidential campaign.[5] The plan would perform a swift takeover of the entire executive branch under a maximalist version of the unitary executive theory — a theory proposing the president of the United States has absolute power over the executive branch — upon inauguration.[6]
So this is all a lie huh ?
Think again ….
Would you agree in the national interest of the country and the risk of a Donald Trump presidency Joe Biden should step down as the candidate ? If not than does Joe Biden actually care about the national interest of the country if Trump being President will destroy democracy knowing he has a very good chance of losing
Why u believe others would do better then biden vs trump ?
At this late juncture, I would not agree. If Biden stepped down now, I think that it would increase the risk of a Trump presidency.
One year ago, I think that it might well have been in the national interest for Biden to announce that he would be a one-term president. I would characterize his decision not to make such an announcement as an error in judgment, not an indication that he lacked concern for the national interest.
Caring about t
Nearly everything he did (that you guys hated him for) was in the national interest. Preventing illegal immigration. Keeping gas prices low. Becoming energy self-sufficient. Not starting wars. Increasing tarrifs on imported goods. Lowering unemployment.
When the majority of Democrats and Republicans when polled what someone else as their candidate .
I think most would prefer a Haley/Newsom ticket and I am not a fan of either over a Trump/Biden ticket
Yes ok but trump won the republicans side, who u think have more chances to beat him ?
I don’t see how u think someone else had better chances to beat trump then biden .
Fwiw if trump would lose by some miracle to Haley , I wouldn’t be surprise biden to step down .
Yes ok but trump won the republicans side, who u think have more chances to beat him ?
I don’t see how u think someone else had better chances to beat trump then biden .
Fwiw if trump would lose by some miracle to Haley , I wouldn’t be surprise biden to step down .
I can think of 5-6 people that would have a better chance to beat Trump
I think slighted is right it may be to late
Nikki Haley lost to "none" in the nevada primary 61-32.. lol
Democrats did a horrible disservice to themselves not building up any new candidates. Some individual republicans tried to do it for themselves and failed.
Maybe trump vs Biden 2 was alway inevitable but seems like polling indicates a growing disillusionment with two awful choices
It was already 2 awful choice in 2016 as they say.
Nothing new under the sun.
Funny Republican said Biden was too old to hold office in 2020 and 4 years later that age is not too old anymore because trump got that age now .
What a surprise they change the goalpost, again ….
Wasn’t Biden suppose to bring the US down and yet the US today has the best economy in the world presently with a low inflation rate compare to the rest of the world with very low unemployment.
Man did Biden screwed it huh while u got a guy like trump still thinking and shouting 4 years later he lost the election by fraud and that is not a sign of delusion or derangement….
I'm curious why you couched this with "the last 20 years." Was there someone else you had in mind who'd otherwise apply but for it being earlier than 2004? Also, you lost points with "any level of the federal government." That is a very, very sweeping statement and I have to think almost no one can truly speak to that being the case for anything, let alone what you've espoused.
I don't think there is anything special about 20 years. When covid, or other major disasters occur, for whatever reason the people of the US all of a sudden start tolerating the government to overreach their boundaries on what they should be doing. Trump is the only (or very few) politicians who didn't see a disaster as an opportunity to take more power.
So I like said, there is plenty of things to knock trump on, but him wanting to be a dictator or even exercise more control than past presidents is beyond stupid. I know the left doesn't want to say anything nice about trump, but if they are forced to say something nice about him the first thing out of their mouth should be that he is the least power hungry person who ever ran from president. He wanted to cut taxes (yes, this means cut the influence the federal government has) and in this way repubs in general (not always but in general) are far less power hungry than dems.
If they want to bash a power hungry current or former presidential hopeful they have to take aim at bernie or warren.
I don't think there is anything special about 20 years. When covid, or other major disasters occur, for whatever reason the people of the US all of a sudden start tolerating the government to overreach their boundaries on what they should be doing. Trump is the only (or very few) politicians who didn't see a disaster as an opportunity to take more power.
To be fair a decent bunch of republicans did the same, some even better than him (by never panicking not even in march 2020).
