Moderation Questions and General Chat Thread
The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic failed, and it became a general discussion thread with almost no moderation related posts at all. And those that were posted were so buried in non-mod posts that it became a huge time drain on the mods to sort through them. Then, when off topic posts were deleted posters complained about that.
This led to the closing of the mod discussion thread, replaced by the post report/pm approach. This has filtered out lots of noise, but has resulted at times in the General Discussion Thread turning into a quasi-mod thread. This is not desirable, but going back to the old mod thread is also not a workable option.
Therefore, I have created this new moderation thread, but with a different purpose and ground rules than previous mod threads. The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for posters to pose questions to the mods about how policies are applied; to bring to the mods attention posts they think are inappropriate and reach the level of requiring mod action; and for mods to communicate to posters things like changes or clarifications to policies, bannings, etc.
Now let me tell you what this thread is NOT a place for. It is not for nonmoderation related posts, even if the discussion originates from a comment in in a mod related post. It is not for posters to post their opinions about other posters or whether a poster should be banned. It is not to rehash past grievances about mod decisions from months or years ago. The focus of this thread will be recent posts that require action now. Or questions about current policies and enforcement.
So basically, this is a thread to ask mods questions. Which means, pretty much that only mods should be answering those questions. If a poster asks why a particular post was deleted or allowed, only a mod can answer that. Everyone else who wants to jump in with their opinion or their mod war story needs to stay out of it. It just increases the noise to signal ratio and does nothing to answer the question.
Everyone needs to understand that this thread has very different rules than the old mod thread and any other thread. Any non-moderation post will be deleted on sight. Not moved to the appropriate thread, just deleted. So don't waste your time crafting a masterpiece post about wars or transgender issues or the presidential election and then post it in this thread. It will be gone. Also, this isnt a thread for general commentary about our mods performance. Posting "browser sucks as a mod" or any such posts that don't actually ask about a policy or request a mod action will be deleted. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about the moderation of this forum. But this thread isnt for complaining about mods. You are free to go to the ATF forum and make your concerns about modding in this forum there.
So with that intro, this thread is open for those who need to bring questions about mod policies or bring inappropriate posts to the mods attention. Again, it is NOT a thread for group discussions about other posters or for other posters to answer questions directed to mods.
We'll see how this goes. If you have what you feel is an open issue raised in the General Discussion Thread, please copy that post or otherwise reintroduce the issue here.
Thanks.
Is that post that Mets made to get banned still extant or was it deleted? Can we see it?
Is that post that Mets made to get banned still extant or was it deleted? Can we see it?
It was actually a few posts but (and I'm guessing here) was probably this one
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showp...
Is that post that Mets made to get banned still extant or was it deleted? Can we see it?
I dont think there is much to gleam from any single post.
Bowser said not to talk about Palestinian fecundity being used as a demographic weapon against Israel, and Mets made a post along these lines right after.
So if one is inclined to challenge the decision, the only real question is whether Bowser should be making such a demand; especially considering he routinely lets Victor dehumanize Israelis/Zionists by calling them ghouls, monsters, genocide lovers, etc.
Banned for two weeks for posting a Dailykos article?
C'mon Browser...
Browser, your ban durations are draconian. I know you're a rules guy, can you direct me to where the ban durations are prescribed in the rules?
So does everyone think it’s workable for a moderator to define parameters for posting and posters to then say “lol what a ****ing joke!” and willfully ignore those parameters? Because that’s what happened here.
Mets has behavioral issues when it comes to authority and following boundaries he doesn’t agree with. A short break for posters who can’t follow rules is an easy way to modify those behaviors. Some people are more resistant than others. We’ll see if it works.
So does everyone think it’s workable for a moderator to define parameters for posting and posters to then say “lol what a ****ing joke!” and willfully ignore those parameters? Because that’s what happened here.
Mets has behavioral issues when it comes to authority and following boundaries he doesn’t agree with. A short break for posters who can’t follow rules is an easy way to modify those behaviors. Some people are more resistant than othe
How is 2 weeks a short break? Other mods would have given 3 days max.
So does everyone think it’s workable for a moderator to define parameters for posting and posters to then say “lol what a ****ing joke!” and willfully ignore those parameters? Because that’s what happened here.
Only when the parameters are ****ing jokes.... although I think we're now seeing why the ban was for two weeks.
There is literally no set of circumstances where literally copy/pasting a Dailykos article should result in a two week ban. It's ****ing Dailykos not Stormfront.
There are ways to go about disagreeing with a ruling. Saying “lol what a ****ing joke” and then immediately disregarding the warning got him banned, not posting a specific article, and I think you know that.
I think in general many of you are unfair in your summations and treatment of Browser. I’ve said my piece, I’ll bow out of this discussion for the sake of not clogging the thread further while the mod is out of commission- something maybe some of you ought to consider doing as well.
There are ways to go about disagreeing with a ruling. Saying “lol what a ****ing joke” and then immediately disregarding the warning got him banned, not posting a specific article, and I think you know that.
The article was posted to illustrate the joke of the policy.
And if a policy is a joke then it's a joke. We shouldn't be expected to pussyfoot around inane policies-- exactly because we're not children.
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Again, the fact that there is no set of circumstances where posting a Daily Kos article deserves a two week ban, is why it was completely appropriate for Mets to post an article from there-- to illustrate why the policy is so bad.
And we're once again in a position where what is mainstream thinking is being banned here.
The article was posted to illustrate the joke of the policy.
And if a policy is a joke then it's a joke. We shouldn't be expected to pussyfoot around inane policies-- exactly because we're not children.
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Again, the fact that there is no set of circumstances where posting a Daily Kos article deserves a two week ban, is why it was completely appropriate for Mets to post an article from there-- to illustrate why the policy is so bad.
I don’t know how some of you meaningfully navigate the adult world
