Ukraine-Russia War Take 2
Here is what the preliminary take on the Ukraine thread disappearing is:
The site was hit with a massive spam attack where hundreds of spam threads were created. In the case where, for example, I see a single spam thread and delete it, that is called a soft delete, and mods can still see them but forum members cannot. Those deletion can be undone.
When a massive attack hits with hundreds of threads, an admin uses a different procedure where the hundreds of spam threads are merged and then hard deleted, where the threads are gone, and no note is left behind. As I have mentioned with my own experience of just soft deleting a large number of posts, sometimes a post or thread gets checked or merged accidentally and is deleted by mistake. Dealing with hundreds of spam threads takes a sledgehammer, not a scalpel.
It appears that our Ukraine thread may have gotten caught up in that recent net of spam threads. If so, it is likely gone for good. I cant say this for sure, and am awaiting comments from admins on this issue. Yes, this sucks. And hopefully there was some other software glitch that caused the disappearance, and we may recover it in the future.
But in the meantime, I have created this new Ukraine-Russia War thread to enable the conversation to continue. Obviously continuity with earlier discussions will be lost. There is no way around that. So as best as possible, let's pick up the conversation with recent events and go from there.
If you have any questions about this, please post them in the mod thread, not here. Let's keep this thread going with posts about the war, not the disappearance of the old thread.
Thanks.
literally the same propaganda since WW2.
the famous Russian blocking units!
Thanks Bluegrassplayer for all the info you post. Some clown on you for it, but I don't access any social media. Except here I guess. Lotta good OSINT folks on Twitter.
I didn't claim that Russia is using human shields, I said they are executing soldiers who don't fight.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_No...
Thanks Bluegrassplayer for all the info you post. Some clown on you for it, but I don't access any social media. Except here I guess. Lotta good OSINT folks on Twitter.
Appreciate it. Thanks for the economy info, I always love reading it. I watched the video you posted on Russia and China and Putin's trip to China, great stuff.
So far it's only the clowns clowning so not a big deal.
Do you think Russia is amendable to a reasonable ceasefire agreement that would be worth Ukraine making a "calculated gamble" on. What would such an agreement look like in your eyes?
who cares russia. make peace and sign a defense pact and arm them to the teeth and Russia will never come back unless they want to suicide. Time helps Ukraine more then Russia. We out produce Russia so bad. Time favors the west. Its russia who shouldn't make peace strategically with its aging soviet weapons and temporary artillery and air advantage
who cares russia. make peace and sign a defense pact and arm them to the teeth and Russia will never come back unless they want to suicide. Time helps Ukraine more then Russia. We out produce Russia so bad. Time favors the west. Its russia who shouldn't make peace strategically with its aging soviet weapons and temporary artillery and air advantage
I think that's the problem though. So far part of Russia's demands in negotiation is leaving a neutered Ukraine that is not able to "invade" in the future. Because Russia needs assurances for it's security.
The biggest NATO opponents to Ukraine joining are now USA and Germany. There's pretty much no chance that Ukraine can join anytime soon. Meanwhile no one knows what Ukraine's bilateral military agreements will amount to, and Ukraine has been screwed on similar things multiple times already.
Military production for the war took way too long to start up (which is largely why 2024 is going so poorly for Ukraine as was predicted over a year ago), so Ukraine has every reason to believe that if the war stopped that European military production might stop as well. And even if Europe doesn't slow down their military production, it's not guaranteed that those arms keep going to Ukraine if there's not a war happening. Ukraine was extremely corrupt before the war, and will likely be extremely corrupt after the war. Western Europe doesn't want to send arms to a country with this kind of corruption problems.
no one says it has to be nato. you can make a new alliance. France could do it. a combination of Poland and friends can do it. you just need one member with nukes
but but but... Ukraine gets to decide right guys? or in this case Poland Lithuania and France. Ukraine could outproduce Russia without the Us with just a couple European allies putting in some effort. but obv the Us would give them weapons lets be honest. the military industrial complex is salivating over the idea of arming Ukraine for the next couple of decades
but but but... Ukraine gets to decide right guys? or in this case Poland Lithuania and France. Ukraine could outproduce Russia without the Us with just a couple European allies putting in some effort. but obv the Us would give them weapons lets be honest. the military industrial complex is salivating over the idea of arming Ukraine for the next couple of decades
This is why Kamala will win
no one says it has to be nato. you can make a new alliance. France could do it. a combination of Poland and friends can do it. you just need one member with nukes
In theory Ukraine has a long standing bilateral agreement with the UK, since Minsk, which can be built upon. They have nukes
I call bs - 0 chance that Russian commanders are demanding 1 million rubies to keep certain people out of the cannon fodder brigades, as the demand, if made, would be for dollars
https://www.politico.eu/article/georgia-...
Georgia goes ‘North Korea’ with bombshell plan to ban main opposition parties
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg58...
this is absolutely wild if true
guy murders some old woman. straight to prison, do not pass go, do not collect £200. dude rolls a double and is released to go fight Ukrainians (standard)
a few months later he murders another old woman, gets put in prison again, but rolls another double and is released to go fight Ukrainians!
I used to follow these closely, but there were too many. Late 2023 there were 20 murder cases from pardoned Wagnerites.
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/12/2...
Can't recall any verified instances of them going back to the front afterwards though. This guy could set a record if he survives his second tour and murders again.
according to this article by the guardian, telegram in Russia is both the main communication tool of the opposition to Putin, and of pro Putin warmongers
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg58...
this is absolutely wild if true
guy murders some old woman. straight to prison, do not pass go, do not collect £200. dude rolls a double and is released to go fight Ukrainians (standard)
a few months later he murders another old woman, gets put in prison again, but rolls another double and is released to go fight Ukrainians!
Totally normal
And people are arguing that Russia still has elite troops 😂😂😂
Ukraine lost its first f16
Via a crash
Doubtful imo.
Russian soldiers and volunteers are being issued traffic tickets by automatic cameras while speeding to flee from Ukrainian attack drones:
Imagine receiving a traffic ticket in the mail because you were speeding down a Russian road in Kursk with a Ukrainian attack drone on your tail. That's the reality facing some Russians living near the front lines after Ukraine's surprise seizure of Russian territory in Kursk Oblast. And they're complaining about it on Telegram.
Pretty sure the government funds are hurting enough that they will actually try to collect too.
