the old set over straight over quads routine

the old set over straight over quads routine

PartyGaming - $0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 114.22 BB
Hero (SB): 65.84 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 97.76 BB
MP: 126.24 BB
CO: 317.06 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8 8

fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, BTN calls 3 BB, Hero calls 2.5 BB, fold

Flop: (10 BB, 3 players) 8 6 A
Hero checks, CO checks, BTN bets 3.5 BB, Hero raises to 62.84 BB, CO calls 62.84 BB, BTN calls 59.34 BB

Turn: (198.52 BB, 3 players) 9
CO bets 64.16 BB, BTN calls 48.38 BB

River: (295.28 BB, 3 players) 6

BTN shows T 7 (Straight, Ten High)

Main Pot [198.52 BB]: (Pre 30%, Flop 38%, Turn 83%)
Side Pot#1 [96.76 BB]: (Pre 50%, Flop 38%, Turn 83%)

Hero shows 8 8 (Full House, Eights full of Sixes)

Main Pot [198.52 BB]: (Pre 54%, Flop 58%, Turn 14%)

CO shows 6 6 (Four of a Kind, Sixes)

Main Pot [198.52 BB]: (Pre 17%, Flop 4%, Turn 2%)
Side Pot#1 [96.76 BB]: (Pre 51%, Flop 62%, Turn 17%)

CO wins 305.06 BB


The best part is that, since the villains didn't get it all-in on the flop, PT4 shows this as a 100% loss in EV for me, even though I had 62% equity when I went all-in.

27 December 2023 at 08:59 AM
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9 Replies


by Elliott61 P

unlucky but why shove the flop? and why are you playing with 65bb ?

That flop check raise is absurd from you for that amount


by Poker2021 P

That flop check raise is absurd from you for that amount

Both of the other players called the bet while he had a large advantage in equity. Seems alright to me.


Easy fold turn. As played easier fold river.


by chillrob P

Both of the other players called the bet while he had a large advantage in equity. Seems alright to me.

The way I looked at it is 1) I’m almost certainly ahead 2) not a lot of cards I really want to see come out 3) there is some Ax and 2pair holdings here that I can get value from 4) jamming looks a lot like I m chasing a flush draw.

I figured this was an ideal spot to just rip it in not to mention I’m out of position…


He didn't have a straight he had a gutshot. The other guy had a set not quads. Maybe your downswing is at least partially attributable to being unable to read the board!


by ejames209 P

He didn't have a straight he had a gutshot. The other guy had a set not quads. Maybe your downswing is at least partially attributable to being unable to read the board!

Or maybe you were unable to read what the turn and river cards were?


by fidstar-poker P

Easy fold turn. As played easier fold river.

What? Fold turn and river to no bet?

What hand are you guys looking at? Hero was all in on the flop.


My first instinct is to fold this river. I never doubt myself, usually I'm right most of the times.


by chillrob P

Or maybe you were unable to read what the turn and river cards were?

I don't need to read turn and river cards. If you can't figure out your strategy on the flop, you're toast.


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