Israel/Palestine thread
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who would qualify as an anti-zionist but not antisemitic in your estimation?
The Houthis are militant thugs that overthrew the legitimate government of Yemen, they’re not beloved by their own people, much less the broader Islamic community. It’s like saying Netanyahu is a celebrated hero to all the Jews worldwide.
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That's a tough question to answer. I guess it depends on the definition of Zionism again
People critical of Israel and their current regime and their treatment of the West Bank Palestinians in favor of a two state solution are not generally antisemites
But almost anyone against the idea of a jewish state is an antisemite
Hamas is not loved by the overall islamic community either but they are praised by the antizionists in this thread
Denying the rapes is still incredible
You are?!?!?
This guy has been a racist, rightwing, bloodthirsty Zionist since minute 1... does he need to call you, once again, an antisemitic, terrorism-supporter monster for it to finally get through to you?
Kelhus is most certainly his ally.
ya Trolly just doesnt read well. he plays by feel as they say. and really, Trolly is pretty close to both of them in terms of hatred of Arab others and their swarthy rapist ways.
anyone that believes that horseshit rapist NYT story is a rabid anti-Arab bigot and absolutely allied in thought with Kel and mets.
if anything, Kelhus is less overtly racist and gross than mets is, or at least it's quite comparable
pretending that there's some significant ideological difference between these two clowns is very weird
I can't go that far. I think Trolly is sympathetic to the plight of Palestinians and generally opposed to Bibi, the IDF and its ethnic cleansing. He's just a centrist liberal, most of whom have that Obama-style mindset about "all sides want what's best for the world, let's go high when they go low, let's get our enemies together with us and have a beer summit", etc., etc.
It's an annoying and tired ideology, but it's far, far less horrific than the one of Mets/Kelhus.
Ghengis Khan is regarded as a monster and Assad, Putin and Xi are only admired by victor and others like him. Kooks iow.
Totally bro, you can't go anywhere in this thread without the damn leftists praising Hamas!! (something that I'd be willing to bet has happened exactly zero times ITT)
And no, shedding no tears for when an IDF soldier/occupier gets owned DOES NOT equate to "praising Hamas".
Leftwingers reject the black/white, childlike ideology of the right, in which everything is a battle between Good and Evil.
I dunno, concluding that the NYT article is at all accurate is caused by the same racist pathos and slavish devotion to superior white ethics.
I dont admire Putin. dont know much about Assad. and yes I think Xi is by far the best of the bunch in terms of superpower countries. I am sure he is as ruthless as anyone but I dont see him doing genocide or imperialism with bombs.
Maybe because Jews have no heroes that genocided entire tribes out of existence, so no respect. You want respect in this world, you have to earn it through the sword. That is the brutal truth.
-kelhus
Wait until this student of history learns about the United States and how it uses/views Israel as its proxy state!
What precisely would it really take? They're not exactly earning respect now, so again what would it really take?
Ghengis Khan, Assad, and Putin all suck.
Xi isn't great, but he's comparable to Western leaders (who you readily accept) in terms of the death and horrors he unleashes upon the world.
George W. killed far more innocent people than Xi, and he was only in power for 8 years...
The left-wing admirers of Putin, Assad, et. al is a tiny group. There are exponentially more right-wingers that admire Hitler, Mussolini, and Pinochet than the former group, but somehow, someway, the former group gets all the conversation.
Edit: Franco too -- the US religious right loooooooves that guy
So are you saying Israel should engage in "complete and utter genocide"? (@vic Karl and the other muppets- don't bother chiming in with your "they're doing that already!!" schtick as I'm not interested, question is to Dunain only)
1 Yemen
2 Iran
3...*trails off*
go on twitter and you will see hundreds/thousands of Pinochet fans rocking helicopter memes
"Please don't chime in to tell me how ridiculously pointless and moronic my line of inquiry is!", he begs.
I mean, hes said it multiple times.
Kelhouse has linked articles by white supremacist neo-Nazis to bolster whatever point he was making at the time.
Mets hasn't. So no as per usual, you're wrong.
mets doesnt need talking points like Kel does. mets hate is pure and unadulterated from the heart.
Mets isn't racist
You were praising them with your "payback" gloating remember? When you crowed over the murder of a 22 year old girl?