The costs of trans visibility
Yesterday, Dylan Mulvaney broke her silence: https://www.tiktok.com/@dylanmulvaney/vi....
For context, this is a trans influencer who built a 10 million strong following on TikTok. She took a brand deal with budweiser to post an ad on an instagram, and the anti-trans right went absolutely ballistic, calling for a boycott, condemning the company, and to some perhaps unknowable degree it influenced that Budweiser sales dropped by a 1/4 and
. Dylan speaks more personally about the effect of the hatred on her.
What strikes me about this story is that it is just about visibility. This isn't inclusion in sports or gender-affirming care for minors, it was just that a trans person was visible. This wasn't even visibility in a TV commerical that a poor right-winger is forced to see, it was an ad on her own instagram page. We're all in our own social media algorithm influenced bubbles, but from my vantage point it really has seemed that in the last year or so things have just gotten worse for trans people and the backlash to even minor visibility is growing.
We need to do better.
The article is in reference to children. How many “years” could they have known. Just stop, man. You’re racking up losses at a rapid rate now.
Well, the children showing up to these clinics are probably more than a few weeks old, so I'm guessing there's a few years in which they could have known.
I do a lot of posting through speech to text and it's not perfect. But I'm glad to know that you are resorting to just insulting me instead of posting content.
One of the reasons I don't believe Dr. Fakey is a doctor is his rigidity.
Meisner rigidly believes all clinics operate the same way, prescribe irreversible drugs immediately upon request and that that his one size solution is a cure all for treating people outside his area of expertise. Most doctors I know don't talk in terms of such certainty and absolutism. Most admit their limitations and give some level of respect to the opinions of
There are plenty of medical doctors with some evidence of autism. And plenty of doctors who are over-confident in areas that aren't remotely related to their discipline.
I was (in the very distant past) a psychologist. At best, I am a slightly disinterested bystander who enjoys making certain types of people flail around like freaks when their dumb ideas are confronted. Gangsta is currently a psychiatrist.
When psychologists (even ex-ones) and psychiatrists agree on something it is definitely the consensus of both the scientific and practicing communities of both fields.
I do defer to those who know more than I do. Hell, I’ve named several highly prominent respected psychiatrists. How many has gangsta named? Oh, that’s right, none, even after repeated requests. Do you not think it’s possible if he linked me to some credible research then I’d go read it and maybe, just maybe I would amend my thinking? Sadly, he does not offer that opportunity.
I've provided the names of several organizations. If you were just looking for research to read up on, you could have googled these organizations and their stances on transgender care. From there, they will link you to the research that supports their positions.
I'm not reluctant to answer questions, I just don't find a need to play your games. If you have a point to make, you can make it without having to ask me questions to lead me down the path. If you are asking me for the names of an expert so you can look into their research, I provided the names of organizations that compile this research already. If you're asking me for their names to see if there is any expert on my side, I provided the names of organizations which are made up of these people. So what is the point of me naming a specific person then? What more are you trying to do with that name that isn't already provided by the names of the organizations?
Well, the children showing up to these clinics are probably more than a few weeks old, so I'm guessing there's a few years in which they could have known.
I do a lot of posting through text to speech and it's not perfect. But I'm glad to know that you are resorting to just insulting me instead of posting content.
Tell me, “doc,” at what age is one’s frontal lobe developed?
I know damn well this question will go unanswered.
I’m certain gangsta is not a psychiatrist at all. His posting style is almost identical to Bobo who is not a shrink.
You have already established yourself as the clown of the thread, surpassing button, which was quite an accomplishment. There is no real reason to now prove your stupidity as well.
Have you run out of fast food restaurant insults already?
When psychologists (even ex-ones) and psychiatrists agree on something it is definitely the consensus of both the scientific and practicing communities of both fields.
I mean sure, organizations from both of our fields have arrived at the same consensus, and you and I have the same belief and understanding, but I haven't posted the name of a single individual from these organizations, so how can we be sure they really exist? Such are the mysteries of this forum.
Yes, but at some point their lives were not normal and were dysfunctional. That doesn't have to ever happen with someone who is trans. I wasn't making the argument that being trans is not a mental illness because they can have normal, functional days, but instead because they can have all their days be normal and functional.
You missed something here. Nash was low functioning his entire life other than being a bit good at math. If you remember your schooling, it is "the four fs" and not "the four fs and a math paper." Saks attributes her entire ability to function on medication, talking therapy and social support.
His examples were simply idiotic.
I've provided the names of several organizations. If you were just looking for research to read up on, you could have googled these organizations and their stances on transgender care. From there, they will link you to the research that supports their positions.
I'm not reluctant to answer questions, I just don't find a need to play your games. If you have a point to make, you can make it without having to ask me questions to lead me down th
The fact that you cannot name a single one proves you are not actually a psychiatrist. The reason you do not answer questions is obvious. The answers would, as you say, “lead down a path” and you’re just smart enough to know where that path leads…..to proving you wrong.
You have already established yourself as the clown of the thread, surpassing button, which was quite an accomplishment. There is no real reason to now prove your stupidity as well.
Have you run out of fast food restaurant insults already?
Have you even bothered to read any of the science that I’ve posted here? Of course not. You want to keep your head buried in the sand.
I mean sure, organizations from both of our fields have arrived at the same consensus, and you and I have the same belief and understanding, but I haven't posted the name of a single individual from these organizations, so how can we be sure they really exist? Such are the mysteries of this forum.
Because you don’t know any.
Tell me, “doc,” at what age is one’s frontal lobe developed?
I know damn well this question will go unanswered.
As I was saying, I don't feel the need to play your games or be your monkey. If you have a point to make, you can make it without me. If you won't make your point without me answering each of your questions along the way, then I guess you will just have to never make the point, but then I'm not sure why you're here.
You missed something here. Nash was low functioning his entire life other than being a bit good at math. If you remember your schooling, it is "the four fs" and not "the four fs and a math paper." Saks attributes her entire ability to function on medication, talking therapy and social support.
His examples were simply idiotic.
My examples were fine gangsta basically took the position that one who is mentally ill cannot function well and that since some trans people can that means they are not mentally ill. They are delusional. We know that. And I posted a few schizophrenics who are quite productive. There are others. Darrell Hammond. Rufus May. List goes on. He draws conclusions that make no logical sense.
As I was saying, I don't feel the need to play your games or be your monkey. If you have a point to make, you can make it without me. If you won't make your point without me answering each of your questions along the way, then I guess you will just have to never make the point, but then I'm not sure why you're here.
Why are you here? To LARP as a psychiatrist and live in an echo chamber of pro-trannyism? Go to Reddit for that. They don’t allow anyone to dissent from the narrative.
Fact is you know I’m right and that’s why you don’t answer. You know damn well children have not possess the ability to project future consequences of their actions as the frontal lobe is nowhere near mature enough for that ye thou expect them to know they want to surgically alter their bodies in a way that ensures they will never be parents?
Why are you here? To LARP as a psychiatrist and live in an echo chamber of pro-trannyism? Go to Reddit for that. They don’t allow anyone to dissent from the narrative.
Fact is you know I’m right and that’s why you don’t answer. You know damn well children have not possess the ability to project future consequences of their actions as the frontal lobe is nowhere near mature enough for that ye thou expect them to know they want to surgically a
And this is the guy you claimed confirmed your medical credentials are legit? Smart move, attacking your own witness's credibility....
And this is the guy you claimed confirmed your medical credentials are legit? Smart move, attacking your own witness's credibility....
After I clubbed him over the head like a baby seal with facts, he began to backpedal. Because the facts I was dropping were so solid and irrefutable, he decided he wanted to cast doubt on my credibility. However, we all know that he said he has no doubts I am who I say I am. Hell, I’ve posted links on here that one has to have access to and that access costs money. Seems like an expensive and elaborate ruse just to dupe some anonymous liberal snowflakes. More likely I have access to them as the subscriptions are deductible.
Tell me, “doc,” at what age is one’s frontal lobe developed?
I know damn well this question will go unanswered.
That is a question for the ex-psychologist, not the psychiatrist. Any medical doctor would know whose domain is correct.
Your question is silly. The male frontal lobe reaches, on average, with large standard deviation, maximum development around the age of 25. This is why it is ok to presume that males under the age of 25 should be kept in cages and those over the age of 25 should not even attempt to have an idea.
I'm adding in an additional r/o. Try to guess what it is: JPFN NOS
(I got in trouble during a clinic rotation for putting this r/o on the chart)
The fact that you cannot name a single one proves you are not actually a psychiatrist. The reason you do not answer questions is obvious. The answers would, as you say, “lead down a path” and you’re just smart enough to know where that path leads…..to proving you wrong.
I actually have no idea what argument you're trying to make by asking me to name someone. If you'd like to make the argument at some point, I think this thread could take a productive turn instead of continuing to be the trash that it currently is.
Can you actually show posts here where I backpedalled? Just two side by side posts, one in which I say something and then the following where I say the opposite or deny having made the original claim. Because if not, I'd like to ask you to stop mistepresenting what I've said. One of the rules of this form is to engage with others in good faith, and repeated misrepresentations of other posters makes this impossible.
I actually have no idea what argument you're trying to make by asking me to name someone. If you'd like to make the argument at some point, I think this thread could take a productive turn instead of continuing to be the trash that it currently is.
Best way for that to happen is for you to see yourself out since you contribute nothing of value anyway.
Can you actually show posts here where I backpedalled? Just two side by side posts, one in which I say something and then the following where I say the opposite or deny having made the original claim. Because if not, I'd like to ask you to stop mistepresenting what I've said. One of the rules of this form is to engage with others in good faith, and repeated misrepresentations of other posters makes this impossible.
Did you or did you not say that you have no doubts that I am a physician?
That is a question for the ex-psychologist, not the psychiatrist. Any medical doctor would know whose domain is correct.
Your question is silly. The male frontal lobe reaches, on average, with large standard deviation, maximum development around the age of 25. This is why it is ok to presume that males under the age of 25 should be kept in cages and those over the age of 25 should not even attempt to have an idea.
I'm adding in an addition
A psychiatrist would know that as well. However, he may dodge answer the question when he knows the answer will weaken his agenda.
My examples were fine gangsta basically took the position that one who is mentally ill cannot function well and that since some trans people can that means they are not mentally ill. They are delusional. We know that. And I posted a few schizophrenics who are quite productive. There are others. Darrell Hammond. Rufus May. List goes on. He draws conclusions that make no logical sense.
Your examples were of a complete nutter who needed near 24-hour care from a loved one when he was out of treatment and a person who attributes her ability to function on medication, intensive talk therapy and social support.
Adding additional r/o, and definitely considering multiple diagnoses. I'm behind the times by a bit, so not sure if there is a DSM-5 one that subsumes the DSM-IV ones.
