Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

Think this merits its own thread...

Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

AM YISRAEL CHAI.


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by Dunyain P

Fair enough. That pull was well beyond my Old Testament knowledge. Even though the events depicted are widely agreed to mostly likely be fictional, David seems to be almost as popular a historical figure to the Jews as Muhammad to the Muslims. Maybe the Jews just need to lean into their own mythology as conquering heroes more, and they will gain some more street credit.

You think the Jews need more street cred? Thet concept itself is rather hilarious but the goal would need about a billion more Jews and 20% or so of Earth's landmass.


by Karl_TheOG_Marx P

Ghengis Khan, Assad, and Putin all suck.

Xi isn't great, but he's comparable to Western leaders (who you readily accept) in terms of the death and horrors he unleashes upon the world.

George W. killed far more innocent people than Xi, and he was only in power for 8 years...

The left-wing admirers of Putin, Assad, et. al is a tiny group. There are exponentially more right-wingers that admire Hitler, Mussolini, and Pinochet than the former gro

You don't know who I accept if indeed anyone. Every leader you mentioned is a scumbag. And Xi isn't comparable to democratically elected non authoritarian regime politicians regardless of how flawed individual ones may be.


by corpus vile P

Kelhouse has linked articles by white supremacist neo-Nazis to bolster whatever point he was making at the time.
Mets hasn't. So no as per usual, you're wrong.

lol. Got 'em! Great post. Look at this champion cooking!

by metsandfinsfan P

Mets isn't racist

lol. Got a second account ITT?

by corpus vile P

You were praising them with your "payback" gloating remember? When you crowed over the murder of a 22 year old girl?

I already refuted this instance of bad reading comprehension once. You're so dumb you make luckbox inc look like a scholar (instead of the conspiracy-obsessed contrarian dipshit that he is).

by Luckbox Inc P

Seems to be more or less exactly how you think though.

It's almost the polar opposite of how I think, but you've never been much of a reader, so I forgive you.

Edit: mf I don't even BELIEVE in the concept of "evil"


by BOIDS P

hearing reports that the hamas guy who stated that oct 7 was just a rehearsal for the main event may be in a spot of bother 😀

hearing reports that BOIDS licked Tony Blair's boots up and down as they shared their fantasy of fields of dead brown people


by Karl_TheOG_Marx P

lol. Got 'em! Great post. Look at this champion cooking!

lol. Got a second account ITT?

I already refuted this instance of bad reading comprehension once. You're so dumb you make luckbox inc look like a scholar (instead of the conspiracy-obsessed contrarian dipshit that he is).

It's almost the polar opposite of how I think, but you've never been much of a reader, so I forgive you.

You refuted two things, Jack & $hit...and Jack left town. You're fooling nobody with your revisionism and you're the last person to be morally lecturing anyone. Your mask slipped. Own it.


by Karl_TheOG_Marx P

hearing reports that BOIDS licked Tony Blair's boots up and down as they shared their fantasy of fields of dead brown people

Why do you keep assuming that Arabs and middle easterners are "brown people"?


by corpus vile P

Why do you keep assuming that Arabs and middle easterners are "brown people"?

that is how they justify their blatant antisemetism.

the narrative is

Israel Bad White colonizers

Palestenians poor brown people being abused by colonizers

The fact that israel is only 30% white is irrelevant to them

it has to be about race - that's their play

that's how they got BLM to support BDS

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the majoirty of people have zero knowledge about this war. So the use of keyword "aparthied state",, "illegal occupation", "right of return" are used over and over until a lot of people start believing it.

Pointless flat out admitted that to him its about race. when i pointed out the majoirity of israelis are not white, he says "look at bibi!! i dont care"
he says he can pick out who is the israeli over who is the palestenian just from the color of their skin. He doesn;t mind admitting he is a straight up bigot.

so you should not be surprised that people you should have on ingore are race baiting you when it isn't warranted.


by corpus vile P

Why do you keep assuming that Arabs and middle easterners are "brown people"?

"Israel are white Colonizers committing genocide on brown people"

after 3 months of this thread you dont see that is all they keep saying?


There's plenty of white Arabs too. Just the usual lockstep presumptive crap from the Israel haters itt


by corpus vile P

You refuted two things, Jack & $hit...and Jack left town. You're fooling nobody with your revisionism and you're the last person to be morally lecturing anyone. Your mask slipped. Own it.

Centrist Zionist screeching is annoying, but doubly so coming from a borderline illiterate like you.

by corpus vile P

Why do you keep assuming that Arabs and middle easterners are "brown people"?

Why do you assume that I was referring solely to Arabs and middle easterners? I simply said that BOIDS and Tony Blair enjoy bombing brown people, because it's true. Don't ask ME why they're racist creeps; they're far closer to your ideology than mine.


You said brown people not me. Who are these brown people so?


by metsandfinsfan P

"Israel are white Colonizers committing genocide on brown people"

after 3 months of this thread you dont see that is all they keep saying?

by corpus vile P

There's plenty of white Arabs too. Just the usual lockstep presumptive crap from the Israel haters itt

look at you, chopping it up with an ultra-right Zionist/racist metsandfinsfan

metsandfinsfan was one of those dudes after 9/11 who went around just mindlessly attacking all brown people (again, this is what they did, don't blame ME) they saw in the street. The type to knock off a Sikh's turban because all they see is "HE LOOKS LIKE THE GUYS WHO KNOCKED DOWN OUR TOWERS". In other words, a racist.

This is the kind of charmer with whom you're finding such kinship. The center and the right, forming like Voltron once again to fight the anti-war left.


But Karl who are these brown people you mention?


by corpus vile P

You said brown people not me. Who are these brown people so?

What level of idiocy on you on, exactly?

The "brown people" referenced are the Arabs, Black people, and others that BOIDS, Tony Blair, and metsandfinsfan enjoy seeing suffer and die. It is likely the case that some of the brutalized amongst them may not identify as "brown". Is THAT the gotcha that inspired multiple posts here? Yikes!

"Brown people" can and is used in the same context as "White people", "Black people", etc. If I had said "Donald Trump is racist against Black people" (also true), would we be having this moronic aside? I doubt it. It's the same kind of thing.


by BOIDS P

hearing reports that the hamas guy who stated that oct 7 was just a rehearsal for the main event may be in a spot of bother 😀

confirmed dead 👍, the hamas dream of holocaust 2 takes another small hit


I see that mets has informed the thread that Israelis may also be referred to as brown people, which, of course, everybody on the planet already understands.

Does your confederacy of dunces think this banal point is some own? Pathetic!


by BOIDS P

confirmed dead 👍, the hamas dream of holocaust 2 takes another small hit

Fan of the 2000s era Iraq War has strong opinions in opposition to mass death!


put BOIDS and mets in My Lai and they would have made those US soldiers/terrorists in 1968 look like amateurs


by Karl_TheOG_Marx P

What level of idiocy on you on, exactly?

The "brown people" referenced are the Arabs, Black people, and others that BOIDS, Tony Blair, and metsandfinsfan enjoy seeing suffer and die. It is likely the case that some of the brutalized amongst them may not identify as "brown". Is THAT the gotcha that inspired multiple posts here? Yikes!

"Brown people" can and is used in the same context as "White people", "Black people", etc. If I had said

Right so you did mean Arabs making your earlier wailing at my question irrelevant. So again: Why do you assume all Arabs and ME people are brown people?


by BOIDS P

confirmed dead 👍, the hamas dream of holocaust 2 takes another small hit

Do you know the name of this guy? I thought one of the Hamas leaders Sinwar said that re rehearsal?


by BOIDS P

confirmed dead 👍, the hamas dream of holocaust 2 takes another small hit

Sinwar?


by Karl_TheOG_Marx P

I see that mets has informed the thread that Israelis may also be referred to as brown people, which, of course, everybody on the planet already understands.

Does your confederacy of dunces think this banal point is some own? Pathetic!

Why don't you just admit you have a white middle class suburbia presumption that all Arabs and Middle Easterners are brown people? Own it bro. 😀


by Karl_TheOG_Marx P

look at you, chopping it up with an ultra-right Zionist/racist metsandfinsfan

metsandfinsfan was one of those dudes after 9/11 who went around just mindlessly attacking all brown people (again, this is what they did, don't blame ME) they saw in the street. The type to knock off a Sikh's turban because all they see is "HE LOOKS LIKE THE GUYS WHO KNOCKED DOWN OUR TOWERS". In other words, a racist.

This is the kind of charmer with whom you're

I'm pretty sure Mets was not that extreme but I'm from nyc proper and was living downtown when that happened, and i had to explain to multiple people in the city that Sikh's arent muslim as aggression was layed out towards them (I lived next door to a Punjab deli ) .

I would really like to know his stance on the war on Iraq before, during and after it took place.

I personally never believed our govts wmd storyline and marched in nyc and DC in 02/03 ( I also realized around then that did nothing) .

mets what was your stand on it then and now ?


is this what you are crowing about?

shooting drones into a heavily populated urban center that had nothing to do with Oct 7?


sick bloodthirsty *******s


by corpus vile P

Sinwar

not him, yet

mismah (rip) (lol)


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