The costs of trans visibility
Yesterday, Dylan Mulvaney broke her silence: https://www.tiktok.com/@dylanmulvaney/vi....
For context, this is a trans influencer who built a 10 million strong following on TikTok. She took a brand deal with budweiser to post an ad on an instagram, and the anti-trans right went absolutely ballistic, calling for a boycott, condemning the company, and to some perhaps unknowable degree it influenced that Budweiser sales dropped by a 1/4 and
. Dylan speaks more personally about the effect of the hatred on her.
What strikes me about this story is that it is just about visibility. This isn't inclusion in sports or gender-affirming care for minors, it was just that a trans person was visible. This wasn't even visibility in a TV commerical that a poor right-winger is forced to see, it was an ad on her own instagram page. We're all in our own social media algorithm influenced bubbles, but from my vantage point it really has seemed that in the last year or so things have just gotten worse for trans people and the backlash to even minor visibility is growing.
We need to do better.
This really shouldn't be so hard. Caitlyn Jenner won the gold medal when she was formerly competing as Bruce Jenner in then men's decathlon. Since everyone (but the transphobes) call her Caitlyn Jenner today and refer to her as female today, stories about her past just require that tiny bit of clarification that she previously competed in the male division, but it is easy to do that clarification while still maintaining her proper pronouns.
Bruce is a man.
A female. Just because she was presenting as male then doesn't mean her identity hasn't been female all along.
Right, the true gender that trans people have an innate, incorruptible connection to since age 3.
How to explain the de-transitioned and this innate, pure insight into true gender?
Right, the true gender that trans people have an innate, incorruptible connection to since age 3.
How to explain the de-transitioned and this innate, pure insight into true gender?
It isn't a requirement of being a trans person - or a cis person, for that matter - that your inate sense of your gender has been fixed through your entire life. These little gotcha attempts aren't nearly as clever as you think they are.
It isn't a requirement of being a trans person - or a cis person, for that matter - that your inate sense of your gender has been fixed through your entire life. These little gotcha attempts aren't nearly as clever as you think they are.
Wait, what exactly are you referring to that is not fixed? The gender?
You said this:
Right, the true gender that trans people have an innate, incorruptible connection to since age 3
But that is a strawman. Nobody has claimed that all trans people have some had the, uh, how did you phrase it, innate, incorruptible, connection that is fixed throughout their life.
You said this:
But that is a strawman. Nobody has claimed that all trans people have some had the, uh, how did you phrase it, innate, incorruptible, connection that is fixed throughout their life.
It’s been said by multiple people, multiple times their true gender identity is “innate”. So the trans innate connection to their true gender is not incorruptible?
It isn't a requirement of being a trans person - or a cis person, for that matter - that your inate sense of your gender has been fixed through your entire life. These little gotcha attempts aren't nearly as clever as you think they are.
On the contrary. His retort was extremely clever.
Adding these little transphobic FYP comments really doesn't help anything. We get it, you don't believe in referring to trans people by the gender they identify with. These little random interjections of yours really do nothing.
It was just a friendly reminder. Not intended for you to get triggered to the level you are.
It’s been said by multiple people, multiple times their true gender identity is “innate”. So the trans innate connection to their true gender is not incorruptible?
Some trans people have experienced an "innate" sense of their gender from a very early age as you suggest, others have had their sense of gender change over time. This happens with sexuality as well.
Some trans people have experienced an "innate" sense of their gender from a very early age as you suggest, others have had their sense of gender change over time. This happens with sexuality as well.
Tell me if I’m understanding the claim.
The claim is that some trans people have an incorruptible sense of their true gender from the beginning, but the connection to true gender for other trans people is impeded and they don’t get the pure insight until later.
If this is correct, what is preventing the pure insight early on for the latter group? How come they don’t have the sacred connection from the beginning?
Tell me if I’m understanding the claim.
The claim is that some trans people have an incorruptible sense of their true gender from the beginning, but the connection to true gender for other trans people is impeded and they don’t get the pure insight until later.
If this is correct, what is preventing the pure insight early on for the latter group? How come they don’t have the sacred connection from the beginning?
Then, the de-transitioners would be those who thought they had the sacred connection to their true gender, but later developed the sacred connection, realizing their sex based gender is their true gender. Is this correct? Or do only the actual trans have a true gender?
Next, how can a third party determine who actually has the sacred connection to their true gender and who is impeded and mistaken?
A female. Just because she was presenting as male then doesn't mean her identity hasn't been female all along.
So you're assuming Jenner identified as a female while pursuing the Olympic medal in a men's sporting event? Or has she said that was the case?
Seems hard to believe. But if true, she committed fraud and should have to give the medal back, don't you think?
So you're assuming Jenner identified as a female while pursuing the Olympic medal in a men's sporting event? Or has she said that was the case?
Seems hard to believe. But if true, she committed fraud and should have to give the medal back, don't you think?
absolutely not the case
caitlyn is on record that lia thomas should not be allowed to compete against cisgender women in the olympics
Tell me if I’m understanding the claim.
The claim is that some trans people have an incorruptible sense of their true gender from the beginning, but the connection to true gender for other trans people is impeded and they don’t get the pure insight until later.
If this is correct, what is preventing the pure insight early on for the latter group? How come they don’t have the sacred connection from the beginning?
Then, the de-transitioners would be those who thought they had the sacred connection to their true gender, but later developed the sacred connection, realizing their sex based gender is their true gender. Is this correct? Or do only the actual trans have a true gender?
Next, how can a third party determine who actually has the sacred connection to their true gender and who is impeded and mistaken?
My read of the "sacred connection" stuff is you are trying this not-that-cute little bit where try to create a caricature of what you think trans people feel as a way to make it sound, in your ears, silly. Is that right?
