President Joe Biden

President Joe Biden

Right now, we need VP Biden, we need him to step down and drop out so Bernie sanders can save this country from this global crisis just like FDR.

A thread to debate the efficacy of a Joe Biden Presidency in the midst of a global pandemic and impending Great Recession/Depression.

Where is Joe Biden? Can he beat Trump and is he even trying to? What would a Joe Biden Presidency look like in these times? Where is he and why isn't he leading?

20 March 2020 at 09:14 PM
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by Slighted P

i'm in. let's ban everyone over 80 from participating in politics. no running/holding office, no voting, no donating to superPACS.

No voting for people over 80... and I heard it was repubs who were the bad ones for trying to limit voting to those who are citizens and can prove who they are.


by bahbahmickey P

No voting for people over 80... and I heard it was repubs who were the bad ones for trying to limit voting to those who are citizens and can prove who they are.

He wasn't serious, but yeah, very few people believe in principles like freedom (of speech or to vote or whatever) for people they despise. It's like this:


“If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all.”

― Noam Chomsky


by microbet P

He wasn't serious, but yeah, very few people believe in principles like freedom (of speech or to vote or whatever) for people they despise. It's like this:


“If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all.”

― Noam Chomsky

I think most repubs believe in freedom of speech and vote for everyone. Which is why ~99% of the time you hear that a group is trying to prevent someone from speaking it is dems trying to block someone they disagree with.


by bahbahmickey P

No voting for people over 80... and I heard it was repubs who were the bad ones for trying to limit voting to those who are citizens and can prove who they are.

you argued that the average 80 year old wasn't competent.. so i think it was you that was arguing for the restriction. i was simply agreeing that if we are going to start restricting we should start with that idea.


by bahbahmickey P

I think most repubs believe in freedom of speech and vote for everyone.

i dont think the average republican agrees with that, nor do they know what it means. including you.


by bahbahmickey P

I think most repubs believe in freedom of speech and vote for everyone. Which is why ~99% of the time you hear that a group is trying to prevent someone from speaking it is dems trying to block someone they disagree with.

Correction :
It is not the democrats , it’s the constitution that said so .
14th amendment !

U should read it .
But we know u love president that say we should suspend the constitution when it do not favour the Republicans .
U actually never cares about rights to be equally protecting everyone .
Just your tribe .


by Montrealcorp P

Correction :
It is not the democrats , it’s the constitution that said so .
14th amendment !

U should read it .
But we know u love president that say we should suspend the constitution when it do not favour the Republicans .
U actually never cares about rights to be equally protecting everyone .
Just your tribe .

Have you read the 14 th amendment?


by lozen P

Have you read the 14 th amendment?

Did u ?
I already posted it in other thread ..
Go check Wikipedia , section 3.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteen...

Ps:
No need to be convicted and sedition is worst then an insurrection .
Add all the garbage of stolen election , total immunity , not reacting for hours
During the Capitol being attacked , talking about suspending the constitution etc .

Trump certainly isn’t a great defender of democracy and the constitution .
If u can’t see the big picture I can’t help u there .


by Montrealcorp P

Did u ?
I already posted it in other thread ..
Go check Wikipedia , section 3.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteen...

Ps:
No need to be convicted and sedition is worst then an insurrection .
Add all the garbage of stolen election , total immunity , not reacting for hours
During the Capitol being attacked , talking about suspending the constitution etc .

Trump certainly isn’t a great defender of de

Constitution talks about Due Process as well in the 5 th and 14 th amendment do you want to ignore that ?


by bahbahmickey P

I think most repubs believe in freedom of speech and vote for everyone. Which is why ~99% of the time you hear that a group is trying to prevent someone from speaking it is dems trying to block someone they disagree with.

99% of the time you hear about it in your bubble.

As far as the issue hand goes, it really is 99% of the time Republicans trying to stop people from voting.


The notion that you have to be convicted to be ineligible under the 14th amendment was completely made up once the law was applied to Trump as multiple people have been removed from ballots without a conviction as it was designed to do after the Civil War. It's just another super convenient fact that nobody realized for a hundred years that the far right "discovered" post Trump after conservatives lost their mind like "actually vice presidents decide elections and can commit fraud if they want to".


by lozen P

Constitution talks about Due Process as well in the 5 th and 14 th amendment do you want to ignore that ?

Where has there not been due process?


Due process is just something you whine about if things don’t go your way. It doesn’t really have a meaning. Trump was indicted by grad juries exactly per tge law, but we can just pretend like Biden unilaterally made the decision.


by Didace P

Where has there not been due process?

There hasn’t but sadly the process has to play out which includes a trial and I would guess a conviction


So we have only had process, but not due process?


by Didace P

Where has there not been due process?

it's next to the freeze peach.


All we hear is Trump retribution if he wins . Nice to see Biden cancel LNG gas export a day after Texas ignores the Supreme Court

I guess Biden knows retribution as well

Does he not realize Europe needs LNG


WOW. Biden bombed Novak.


Remember when US (bush) invade irak in 2003 UN approval and under false pretences ?
No idea what u trying to prove .


by Montrealcorp P

Remember when US (bush) invade irak in 2003 UN approval and under false pretences ?
No idea what u trying to prove .

Didn’t Joe Biden vote for that as well?

Now he has the USA involved in 3 conflicts . Not sure what the response to 3 dead soldiers killed by Iran backed militants


From the tweet.

In 1999, NATO bombed Yugoslavia for 78 days without approval from the United Nations, dropping more than 28,000 bombs, including depleted uranium and cluster munitions, killing over 2000 civilians and displacing more than 250,000 people.

NATO destroyed:
-25,000 residential buildings
-595 kilometers railroads
-470 kilometers roads
-44 bridges
-14 airports
-19 hospitals
-69 schools
-18 kindergartens
-176 cultural monuments

Senator Joe Biden criticized NATO for not being ruthless enough and suggested a harsher "Japanese German-style occupation."

If you look at every modern American war or conflict, from Yugoslavia to Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Yemen, Ukraine, or Gaza, you'll find President Joe Biden's bloody fingerprints directly involved in increasing the bloodshed.

Supporting Joe Biden means supporting a never-ending cycle of war and a continuous flow of bloodshed.


Apparently he believes Trump is the sitting president.


Yeah, the German and Japanese occupations sure were terrible for those countries; they've been poverty-stricken backwaters ever since WWII.


by lozen P

Didn’t Joe Biden vote for that as well?

Now he has the USA involved in 3 conflicts . Not sure what the response to 3 dead soldiers killed by Iran backed militants

Joe biden was 1 vote, he was not president nor vp.

The US goes to war often regardless whos in power.
again i have no idea what u and BJ trying to say.


by lozen P

All we hear is Trump retribution if he wins . Nice to see Biden cancel LNG gas export a day after Texas ignores the Supreme Court

I guess Biden knows retribution as well

Does he not realize Europe needs LNG

Biden has been trying to reduce oil and gas production and raise energy costs in America since his first day on the job. I don't think it is fair to say he did this solely to hurt texas because they tried to enforce a law.

by Siberian13 P

Apparently he believes Trump is the sitting president.

Yes, biden said trump is the sitting the president, but you have to remember that a lot of people at biden's age and cognitive ability are sitting in nursing homes across the country and don't recognize their own children. Asking them who the current president is isn't a fair question - even if they are the current president.

Now that biden has claimed that trump is the current president it will be interesting to see if people will start calling biden an election denier.


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