Politics and Society Moderation Discussion Only Fans Thread

Still not understanding how self bans work.

So my assessment of the Kelhus situation is 100% accurate. Thanks.

I said no such thing, You're welcome.

I mean, I guess it is possible he's the unluckiest guy ever, and Quick Ben and jdock and numerous other accounts were just banned because he was banned or whatever other reason you're using to justify your fake "well ban me too" posts. But maybe, just maybe, you should consider that the reason he's had countless accounts banned by many different mods is because he deserved a few of them?

Well Named has already stated that the reason why Kelhus was banned repeatedly was because of his prior bans, of which only one was deseved. I'm going to trust his judgement there.

Here is the post.

Trust whoever you like. The facts are that his previous bans played a role in subsequent bans, as is the case for many people. And so did his own behaviour.

Whatever you want to believe, hopefully you've at least learned that your "well ban me too then" act is getting a bit played out.

It used to be the containment forum for godawful posters like Kelhus and Luckbox. Now politics occupies that role.

Also, from going back to reading that thread, apparently it him talking about the testosterone levels in elephants that got him banned, not for anything related to zygotes. My apologies there.

I'll play my acts however I want to play them. It's my show.

Right, so he didn't say "the reason why Kelhus was banned repeatedly was because of his prior bans", but that "In my experience, kelhus has been banned more often for having been banned before than for actually causing problems that require banning". And also that his "memory is fuzzy".

But if you want to go on telling yourself that all but one or two bans had nothing to do with his behaviour on the subsequent accounts, go ahead and do so if it makes you feel better. I'll continue to live in the real world.

Of course; I've not suggested you should do otherwise. Shows that don't rely on being profitable can continue on long after anyone was entertained by them, if they ever were. 😃

LOL if you think I'm going to go back through 10-15 years of bans and try to dig up the posts that got him banned. I'm not going to do hours of work to try and dissuade you from your silly belief in your oddly-chosen posting idol for whom you'd apparently lay down your 2+2 life. I know that even getting jdock permitted to come back with an account exiled to H&F only was met with objections from numerous mods, and that he's up to double digit accounts banned by several mods. And I've seen some of his posting work. I don't need any further convincing that this goes beyond one or two bans that have haunted him ever since.

You need to request your ban in ATF.

So basically you have nothing other than that some mods don't like him and that you've seen some of his posting. And this is despite you actually having access to his mod notes.

I have no ideas if mods like him or not; I just told you how they felt about him returning as a poster. So, carry on with your preconceived notions, and best of luck with the whole martyr thing.

They are hardly preconceived notions. My opinion is based on what Well Named has said and what I have seen from my own experiences with Kelhus.

That and the fact that you have posted nothing to dissuade me of those notions despite your ability to do so. I mean just pull up one of his accounts. What did Quick Ben post to get banned?

It isn't as easy as you think. Not every moderator has been diligent over the last fifteen years about including a user note every time they ban someone.

And Kelhus seems to have posted under ~10 accounts. I wouldn't be surprised if some of his bans were due to creating accounts to continue an argument after he was banned, but that is an obviously bannable offense imo.

I never banned him during my brief tenure fwiw.

What happened with Quick Ben? I didn't know Kelhus then but it's only showing 1 post, this one under that account. Did his posts get zapped?

I don't know.

Actually that account isn't even banned, but I was under the impression that that was one of his.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showp...

Here is his last post under Kelhus100 and I know that no posts were deleted there so people can read the actual discussion in POG that got him banned.

Also Kelhus has informed me that his oldest two accounts were zapped as part of some agreement he made with Mat.

This cancel culture attitude needs to be moded out of the community. Its a plague on sincere dialogue.

We def had that sort of dynamic altho I never called him a baby killer. I said he supported it.

I also praised him for his honesty many times.

by Victor k

like, objectively natediggity knows that bombing babies is bad. and in fact he is really mad about the negligible amount of babies that died during the Hamas attack. but goddamnit if objectivity doesnt just go out the window when he hears that Gazan babies are dead.

dont make those contradictions apparent he says. dont make me face them he says.

at least the Zionists are honest that their lives are more important.

you ban Kelhus or whatever but somehow Victor gets a lifetime pass. Look at this garbage. Is the reason he is allowed to say whatever the F he wants is so you have 6 posters instead of 5?

What an absolute joke.

Lifetime pass is hilarious. Oh he's never been banned before so nope, can't do it now.