Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

Think this merits its own thread...

Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

AM YISRAEL CHAI.


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07 October 2023 at 09:33 PM
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Lol at random Twitter accounts. I post same stuff that just got presented to The Hague.


by 5 south P

Genocide is fine to balance out the fast and loose usage of anti-Semite in the thread.

Right. Hillels at colleges aren't being attacked because Israel means jew or anything right

Please


by grizy P

With all due respect, there is a lot of actually anti semitic posts in this thread whereas Israel’s actions don’t even come close to being genocidal.

Calling jews nazi is allowed so i don't think the mods think anything is antisemitic


by Slighted P

yeah no idea what relevant experience South Africa would have with apartheid regimes, anyways..

Oh yeah

I forgot the word apartheid on the propoganda list

I apologize for my omission


Genocide
Ethnic cleansing
Illegal occupation
Apartheid state
Evil Zionists
Baby killers

What else am i missing?


by Bill Haywood P

You are defining genocide as near complete massacre, no?

That's not the UN definition. Wiki:

I believe that the destruction of civil society and expulsion from their land destroys a group as a group.

Israel has bombed nearly all of the schools, mosques, and civic buildings. It has destroyed over half the dwellings. That's clear intent to make the land unlivable. Israel has compressed the people against the Egyptian border and wants them to lea

Israel is not engaging in the intentional destruction of an ethnic group. Again they could do this very easily. By your rational any civilian deaths in war is genocide.


by corpus vile P

Israel is not engaging in the intentional destruction of an ethnic group. Again they could do this very easily. By your rational any civilian deaths in war is genocide.

Are you saying the destruction is not intentional? Or you mean that they aren’t being destroyed?


by Victor P

Lol at random Twitter accounts. I post same stuff that just got presented to The Hague.

So you're corroborating your likeness to two of The Hague?


by corpus vile P

Israel is not engaging in the intentional destruction of an ethnic group. Again they could do this very easily. By your rational any civilian deaths in war is genocide.

"They could kill them faster if they wanted to" isn't a very good argument.


the civilian deaths are a result of the density of gaza's population, and hamas' decades-long policy of using civilian infrastructure to wage war has a significant multiplier effect


by BOIDS P

the civilian deaths are a result of the density of gaza's population, and hamas' decades-long policy of using civilian infrastructure to wage war has a significant multiplier effect

Israel’s policy of attacking civilian infrastructure and refugees camps is also a bit of a “multiplier effect.” (Incidentally, IDF’s HQ is right in the middle of a dense urban area, but that’s different because reasons)


Made the mistake of scrolling the first few pages itt. Kill 'em all, Bibi. The Iranians, Houthis, Hamas, Hezbollah. And anyone else sympathetic to the cause of death to America and Israel can get greased.


Honest Zionist moment


the reason israel are fighting in civilian infrastructure and refugee camps is because hamas are operating out of civilian infrastructure and refugee camps


Anti-imperialism necessitates some strange bedfellows, apparently. Go for it


For a fun exercise, look up how far away IDF’s HQ is from a major hospital.


IDF ought to relocate their headquarters to what is currently Gaza


where is hamas' HQ?


by BOIDS P

where is hamas' HQ?

It's def not in all the hospitals that the IOF destroyed.


by BOIDS P

where is hamas' HQ?

Wherever Netanyahu tells you it is, it can be in a hospital or a refugee camp or the residence of a reporter, just about anything that needs blowing up can be it.


Palestine is responsible for their culture. No one else is.

Israel ain't about to fight a war of attrition with the global population of Jews being 20 million-ish. Like the IDF needs to be more precise versus an Iranian ethos that saw them employ the human-wave strategy to success against a superior Iraqi military in the 80s.


wrong answers


by Trolly McTrollson P

Wherever Netanyahu tells you it is, it can be in a hospital or a refugee camp or the residence of a reporter, just about anything that needs blowing up can be it.

Let's assume he's right until you can tell me where he is


I dont assume he is right. for two reason. firstly, the facts. secondly, Im not a ....


by Schlitz mmmm P

Palestine is responsible for their culture. No one else is.

Israel ain't about to fight a war of attrition with the global population of Jews being 20 million-ish. Like the IDF needs to be more precise versus an Iranian ethos that saw them employ the human-wave strategy to success against a superior Iraqi military in the 80s.

Who is in charge of their water tho?


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