Israel/Palestine thread
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none of these guys realize the Gazans and Hamas are not at all cool with the whole extremist Salafism.
why do they lie so much? the videos are all over twitter. bc it works on the rubes.
lol, Israel isn’t going to just give Gaza away to Saudi Arabia, that’s not how any of this works.
I don't know (and don't want to know) which tabloid most of your information comes from but an old schoolfriend's ex-best friend became a prostitute in Saudi and said they were extremely well treated there in terms of not being abused. It's countries like the UK where men tend to brutalise and kill prostitutes, serially sometimes.
sounds like she wasnt hot enough to **** on
my only anecdotal information comes from someone i work with whose brother supposedly works on one of the superyachts, apparently the bloke spends quite a lot of time on the yacht and when he is there does nothing except play xbox all day every day
What makes you think SA is interested in or capable of occupying Gaza? This sounds like a requirement that is designed to be an excuse for lack of change. Why does Israel keep occupying Gaza? Because Saudi Arabia won't. SA is interested in participating in talks and obviously a likely source of funds for anything, but not an occupying force.
Do you understand what it would mean for Saudi Arabia to occupy Gaza? It would mean them sending
It wouldn’t be foolish at all. It would be the end of Israeli US relations tho
Hamas claims that those two hostages were killed by Israeli bombing, and they forced a female hostage, who was filmed with those two in a video released a day ago (but filmed who knows when), to announce it. Apart from the fact that the two men are presumably dead, and that the woman was forced by her captors to announce it, we don't know anything. But even if the two men were killed by Israeli bombing, Hamas probably committed a war crime by failing to put them in shelter.
https://nypost.com/2024/01/15/news/chill...
What do you think. Would you kill the hostages
Some of the comments in that link are chilling, calling for the obliteration of the Palestinians. Truly disturbing.
Hamas claims that those two hostages were killed by Israeli bombing, and they forced a female hostage, who was filmed with those two in a video released a day ago (but filmed who knows when), to announce it. Apart from the fact that the two men are presumably dead, and that the woman was forced by her captors to announce it, we don't know anything. But even if the two men were killed by Israeli bombing, Hamas probably committed a war crime
yes I posted this exact thing a little bit upthread. the point is, Hamas never announced or admitted that they executed anyone.
ofc we have no way of knowing what happened but it makes no sense that Hamas would execute anyone. ofc it also makes sense if something went wrong like a failed escape that they would blame Israel.
but like I have been saying, the hostages are very valuable to Hamas. just a few days ago they used the hostages to finally allow some medicine to enter Gaza. for each hostage they got medicine for 1000 Gazans. a woeful ratio but its better than nothing.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-ea...
regardless, they are peddling misinformation to foster outrage.
What? The only reason the US would object to "Saudi" troops in Gaza is because it would be a stupid idea. And, more than Israel, SA couldn't do anything without US approval anyway. US and UK officers/contractors are literally part of the Saudi command structure inside SA.
You think the Us would prefer israel having an actual military occupation in Gaza over Saudi? Please
You think the Us would prefer israel having an actual military occupation in Gaza over Saudi? Please
Where are you getting this Saudi occupation? Is there some source? Egypt would at least make some sense (not that they want to do it). I think Saudi occupation is impossible. Maybe that's why you're suggesting it? Israeli occupation may well happen, perhaps over US objection, and if so the US will almost certainly accept it. UN peace keeping force probably makes the most sense and is the most possible non-Israeli force, which is probably why Israel would prevent it.
Where are you getting this Saudi occupation? Is there some source? Egypt would at least make some sense (not that they want to do it). I think Saudi occupation is impossible. Maybe that's why you're suggesting it? Israeli occupation may well happen, perhaps over US objection, and if so the US will almost certainly accept it. UN peace keeping force probably makes the most sense and is the most possible non-Israeli force, which is proba
Egypt won't do it. Qatar would but who trusts qatar?
What do you think is going to happen.
Best case is a coalition of trustful mideast countries. Saudi must be a part of it
This attack happened when it happened because of the Saudi Israel deal. I expect them both to be part of the solution after the war
thread title change to World War III in ....10...9...8...
lol, Israel isn’t going to just give Gaza away to Saudi Arabia, that’s not how any of this works.
It's not Israel's to give. They've already pulled out the lion's share of soldiers. The presence now is decreasing dramatically.
Someone will need to be found to run Gaza. But Israel isn't "giving" it to anyone.
Israel will be more than happy to let an international force run Gaza, they will probably even be happy to pay for it.
But seriously lol if you expect any Arab nation to lead the effort. The Arab nations treat the Palestinians with even more disdain and less dignity than than the Israelis do
Meanwhile two Palestinians drive stolen cars into random Israelis killing 1 and injuring many more.
Hamas praises them of course.
It's not Israel's to give. They've already pulled out the lion's share of soldiers. The presence now is decreasing dramatically.
Someone will need to be found to run Gaza. But Israel isn't "giving" it to anyone.
Well, in fairness at this point Israel would exercise veto power if they felt it was a bad faith actor who would just continue the status quo of radicalization and militrization. They have seen enough from UNRWA I doubt they would let them take over, even if they were willing.
Regardless, I think you guys are all missing the part where the Palestinian people are so tribal, violent, homicidal and radicalized literally no "outsider" would even consider taking on the job. It is a complete non starter.
Isael is doing it out of (perceived) necessity and hundreds of their young men are dying for it. Why would any other country submit themselves to this unnecessarily?
lol these are blatant lies.
the video is clearly asking the viewer to guess if they are still alive or not with the promise of a follow-up video to reveal their fate. its not asking if they should be killed. you can watch it here. fwiw, when I saw it earlier today I thought it was in bad taste.
and the follow up with the reveal is here
Spoiler
the 2 men died in Israeli airstrikes and the women is alive
Your team is taking a page out of the Riddler's book now?
Meanwhile Iran is openly assassinating Iraqi businessmen in their homes for being (alleged) Jew lovers.
Well, in fairness at this point Israel would exercise veto power if they felt it was a bad faith actor who would just continue the status quo of radicalization and militrization. They have seen enough from UNRWA I doubt they would let them take over, even if they were willing.
Regardless, I think you guys are all missing the part where the Palestinian people are so tribal, violent, homicidal and radicalized literally no "outsider" would eve
A Nazis take on Jews in Warsaw. Facism never dies
IT will probably be the PA imo. Not because anyone wants them there; they don't. They're the only ones willing.
