Politics and Society Moderation Discussion Only Fans Thread
Hello everyone. I've closed the previous mod thread, and opened this to capture all issues related to moderation policies and actions going forward. I'll kick it off by reposting my intro post from the other thread. Again, I'm happy to be here and look forward to hearing from you.
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Hello everyone.
I'm very pleased to have the opportunity to serve as a moderator in Politics and Society. I asked for this position because I believe we are experiencing a polarization in our politics and society unseen since the 1960s. We may well be at a juncture from which we will either make great progress or suffer great setbacks in regards to our democratic foundations and civil rights over the next few years. So I believe it is important to maintain a forum for discussing these important topics. When the other mods had to step back a bit due to their real life time obligations, I asked to join the mod team to help keep the forum going.
I have not followed this forum in the past, though I have been reading through threads the last few days and made a few posts. This has allowed me to get a sense of the initial impression the forum likely makes on new readers who are deciding if our forum is a place they would like to visit regularly and participate in. While I see some familiar names from the live poker forum, many of you I have not had any interaction with to date. I have no preconceived notions of anyone's posting behavior and will essentially start from a clean slate.
I will shortly post more about my modding approach and give my initial impressions of the forum based on my observations over the last several days. I will be soliciting your input on things you like about the forum that you want to remain, and things you don't like that you would like me to change. Your candid input and feedback is very important to me. Especially, please don't hesitate to let me know if you think a policy or a proposal is a bad idea. I'd rather hear it before it goes into effect than after.
My overall modding principle is simple: Be Nice. Disagreement need not be disrespectful, and everyone must be treated with respect. Calling a poster derogatory names or hurling snarky insults never usefully advances a discussion. It just bogs things down and turns off many would be participants. And it's not nice. Don't do it.
My goal is to have a forum where people with a wide variety of opinions along the political spectrum enjoy expressing and debating their views in a spirited manner, free from insults, bigotry and denigrating comments. If you enjoy discussing these important and often polarizing issues in a passionate, yet respectful manner, I look forward to getting to know you and working with you to create a forum people will enjoy visiting and contributing to. You can be as committed, determined and relentless as you like in advocating for your position. Be persuasive, thought provoking and challenging. But be nice.
I want to thank tame_deuces and King Spew for their support in bringing me onboard and for all the time and effort they have put into making the forum better. While I am taking over most of the day to day modding responsibilities, both are retaining their mod status and superpowers, and will be supporting the forum as their availability permits. And I personally welcome their continued advice and feedback.
Again, I am happy to be here and look forward to getting to know you.
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I just assume Victor is juiced in or whatever and can't be moderated.
Victor must have nudes of browser
As I feared - you seem to be ignorant of the broad definition of racism, which doesn't apply only to people of the same ethnicity because race is a social construct.
So making derogatory comments about the Portuguese or about Arabs is racism.
Just say bigoted toward, problem solved.
As I feared - you seem to be ignorant of the broad definition of racism, which doesn't apply only to people of the same ethnicity because race is a social construct.
So making derogatory comments about the Portuguese or about Arabs is racism.
You are welcome to choose any definition you like for racism and then apply it to any group you like. My comment used the primary definition as listed in multiple dictionaries and I applied it as such.
So Im not going to go down another rabbit hole of word definitions with you.
You are welcome to choose any definition you like for racism and then apply it to any group you like. My comment used the primary definition as listed in multiple dictionaries and I applied it as such.
So Im not going to go down another rabbit hole of word definitions with you.
Yeah but racism and bigotry make good bedfellows so maybe it's a semantics argument?
You are welcome to choose any definition you like for racism and then apply it to any group you like. My comment used the primary definition as listed in multiple dictionaries and I applied it as such.
So Im not going to go down another rabbit hole of word definitions with you.
You are not able to properly apply the fuzzy, observer dependent concept of race to the present conversation. Broad concepts like race or communism or civilization cannot be fully defined in a few sentences. That you fell down s rabbit hole that a person who understands these better can easily avoid is nobody's fault but yours.
You are not able to properly apply the fuzzy, observer dependent concept of race to the present conversation. That you fell down s rabbit hole that a person who understands these better can easily avoid is nobody's fault but yours.
LOL. Look who's back. If the concept of race is "fuzzy and observer dependent" then the application of the term racism must be equally fuzzy and observer dependent. Which means there isn't a single, proper way to apply the term in a given situation, but rather it depends on how each person chooses to define it. Which is what I said.
As I feared - you seem to be ignorant of the broad definition of racism, which doesn't apply only to people of the same ethnicity because race is a social construct.
So making derogatory comments about the Portuguese or about Arabs is racism.
Bit surprised to be lectured that 'Arab is not a race', when Arabs are a universally recognised ethnic group speaking a language called Arabic.
Yeah but there's white and dark skinned Arabs, so they wouldn't qualify as a race.
LOL. Look who's back. If the concept of race is "fuzzy and observer dependent" then the application of the term racism must be equally fuzzy and observer dependent. Which means there isn't a single, proper way to apply the term in a given situation, but rather it depends on how each person chooses to define it. Which is what I said.
Lol look who's reading comprehension has not improved. You literally claimed to look up race in the dictionary and thought anything else was a rabbit hole. It's not a rabbit hole at all if you agree the dictionary definition cannot sum up the concept and you wouldn't say stuff like Palestinians are not a race and think that's definitive. FYI this comprehension inability of yours coupled with the blatant dishonesty is a consistent theme in your poor moderating.
Palestinians aren't a race though. Words have meanings.
In the israel Palestine thread i learned that all israelis are white colonizers regardless of what they look like, and all Palestinians are occupied brown people. Slighted could always tell which is which just from looking at them and would even bet on it
Not sure if that applies to other arabs
Race is a social construct. (like gender?)
From the Arab American Anti-Discrimination Committee Website:
"Arab" is a cultural and linguistic term. It refers to those who speak Arabic as their first language. Arabs are united by culture and by history. Arabs are not a race. Some have blue eyes and red hair; others are dark skinned; many are somewhere in between. Most Arabs are Muslims but there are also millions of Christian Arabs and thousands of Jewish Arabs, just as there are Muslim, Christian, and Jewish Americans.
You are welcome to choose any definition you like for racism and then apply it to any group you like. My comment used the primary definition as listed in multiple dictionaries and I applied it as such.
So Im not going to go down another rabbit hole of word definitions with you.
I read it as (and try to say) 'racism etc'.
It's the same phenomena with the same problems and there's no significant confusion/misunderstanding.
Lol look who's reading comprehension has not improved. You literally claimed to look up race in the dictionary and thought anything else was a rabbit hole. It's not a rabbit hole at all if you agree the dictionary definition cannot sum up the concept and you wouldn't say stuff like Palestinians are not a race and think that's definitive. FYI this comprehension inability of yours coupled with the blatant dishonesty is a consistent theme i
You again failed to comprehend my post so you are misinterpreting it here. The rabbit hole I was referring to is not that other definitions exist. As the Led Zepplin song states "...because she knows sometimes words have two meanings". The rabbit hole is when posters go back and forth because each one is using a different definition of the same word, and therefore applying it to the situation differently.
I said I based my statement on the dictionary definitions. So by thatvstandard, my statement was correct. And I said if someone else chose to use a different definition then they would come to a different conclusion. But you seem to be making the case that because you happen to choose to use a broader definition then any other definition is wrong.
