The Box of Chocolates Thread (You never know what you're going to get!)

How do they do in a river? Swimming pool? Do Boston College grads fare any better? Harvard? (I know MIT grads sink like a rock, so don't bother answering about them.)

that was wrong. she is or was a law graduate from california state university. how many lawyers from that school do we know of drowning in a lake??

we can ask ed if he knows any harvard lawyers that drowned in a lake. the number is probably zero.
or lets ask rococo what he thinks. these were 2 lawyers, on a lake in a kayak, with a group of 10 others. nancy was a sports freak. there were no currents, waves, winds, nothing.

the story is more than suspect.
here is a better article lucky. https://www.foxnews.com/us/family-americ...

Today I learnt that the formula for buoyancy takes education as a parameter.

come to think of it, i also don't know any lawyers, cal state grads, nor harvard grads who drowned

Well, obviously. You "knew" them.

I don't personally know any that haven't drowned.

I know a few I wish had drowned.

What I read was that the water was choppy. It's calm right now but it definitely seemed choppy on the boat ride to the town I'm in now. I don't really know how someone decides to jump off their kayak and drowns but sometimes getting back into a kayak can be difficult. Looks like she was in Santa Cruz, which is across the lake from where I am which is San Pedro.

a lake is always choppy, lucky, almost always. 5 kts make it choppy, which is nothing. Im born on a lake, lived near water all my life basically. I know. how many kts do you think it had? read the bs story in the article I just linked, it tells the story the other lawyer was concucting for over a month. she was withholding information to the family for a month. she left them in the dark and spending 100k for search and rescue missions. seriously? and then she spills it through her lawyer. she was holding the kayak, thats her story! and when she turned around she was gone. lol what a bunch of bs.

I suggest you wear a life vest to anyone who doesnt know what theyre doing. But even without it, its hard to drown in a lake for a normal person who can swim. thats why the kayak place didnt even hand out any vests. here is my theory: the instructor, who has a cult like following got called out by his former students for groping, sexually assaulting his students. she found out and she was a lawyer. thats why she disappeared.. terrible story.

It's perfectly plausible to drown in a lake if you are a below average swimmer or the lake is large. Freshwater lakes are not very buoyant. As Luckbox noted, it can be difficult to get back in a kayak if you don't know the proper technique.

I obviously don't know what happened, but if I had to bet, I would bet on a simple case of negligence and bad decisions. The tour operator likely was negligent in allowing inexperienced to kayakers to go out without life vests or training in how to get in and out of a kayak in open water. If Ng got out of her kayak to swim without a plan, that was a bad decision. A kayak is going to drift away from you relatively quickly, especially on a windy day. And if the other woman left Ng's kayak and paddled back shore to get help after a relatively short period of not knowing where Ng was, that almost certainly was a questionable decision as well.

My guess is that the other woman returned to shore, was told by someone that she made a mistake by returning to shore, and then panicked because of a concern that she may have negligently contributed to someone's death while in a foreign country.

Excuse me, can we keep this thread on topic please? Pack up your **** and take it off to the conspiracy thread, I don't want to have to wade through mountains of this crap just to get to the stuff I want to read. Kthxbye.

they didnt even look for her. they packed their bags and immediately left without telling anyone what happened. everyone is dumbfounded by this. you cant drown in a lake, not with a "friend" in a kayak next to you. unless that friend wants you dead that is.

youre the most obnoxious, most idiotic poster by far here. Im amazed they havent banned you already. you are not contributing anything ever. so be quiet.

um what topic mate? You never have a topic. we are just listening to your idiotic nonsense all day. get a life.

None of us can know for sure. I gave you what I believed to be the most probable scenario. Unsurprisingly, my most probable scenario was less baroque than yours.

Why do you think this?

I want to believe your scenario.
If you can explain why the witness didnt tell her family that she is dead for over a month and only eventually through a lawyer I might be able to understand. who on earth would do that? read the article I just posted for lucky.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/family-americ...

You really need more here?

Thank you! Do you think you might be able to make me a plaque with those generous words?

Okay, here's the rest.

Why do you think that?

ETA: If you still think I am somehow changing your meaning, what did you mean? Because I can't figure it out.

Washoe-please tone down the insults and critiques of others posters and whether they should be banned and stick to discussing the topic.

Thanks

understood, ok.

I would like it noted for the record that I personally have absolutely no issue with (and, in fact, welcome with open arms) anyone saying those things to me, just as I occasionally say them to others.

idk what's going on, but the Great Lakes are notoriously rough and cause all kinds of maritime disasters.