The Box of Chocolates Thread (You never know what you're going to get!)
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I would like it noted for the record that I personally have absolutely no issue with (and, in fact, welcome with open arms) anyone saying those things to me, just as I occasionally say them to others.
The issue of course is when people respond back and then it turns into a mess with insults flying in both directions-- and if people are allowed to insult others then people should obviously be allowed to respond in kind.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...
Article here from just three hours ago in the Daily Mail on Ng...there is definitely at least the appearance of impropriety if all of the allegations in the DM article are correct. I'm on the lake in a boat right now...keeping my eyes peeled for bodies.
Here is the village from where she rented her kayak and presumably where she was based out of while here.
Here is the village from where she rented her kayak and presumably where she was based out of while here.
how many yards is that to shore? thats gotta be like 300 yards to half a mile. she was out a bit over 100 yards when it happened , according to the owners who saw everything. from a 100 yards you can see and hear everything on the water. if you cant swim that you have no business jumping out of your kayak and not even being there without a life jacket and or company. I dont believe she jumped out to take a dip. who the f does that? nobody can even enter a kayak from the water as far as I know. You gotta be an expert super familar with the vessel to do that. no lawyer would ever do that.
yea it was rough a f, NOT . It was calm a f ,
as you can see here from the tape minutes before it happened. You can also see that no lawyer would ever get the idea to jump into the water from a kayak without kowing its supersafe and they can enter the kayak again.
you can see the kayak here a little better imo. you can also see that its super glassy, no winds no nothing. flat af.
she was out a half a mile they say here. half a mile? the owners say a bit over 100 yards. where is the body? a body floats due to natural gases once they drown. nothing adds up here.
the group flees the country 8 hours after it happened. talked to nobody and seemed distressed.
why would they do that?? that doesnt make any sense at all.
the organizer of the group was lying, lied about the newly purchased plane tickets. they had tickets for 2 days after that kayak tour originally, those tickets expired. they instead purchased new ones to get out asap. 8 hours after the incident. and the whole group went silent ever after.
the fbi should arrest every member of this group and interrogate them until they spill out what happened.
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[QUOTE=TOMS]So partial are the views of mankind with regard to the propriety of their own conduct, both at the time of action and after it; and so difficult is it for them to view it in the light in which any indifferent spectator would consider it. But if it was by a peculiar faculty, such as the moral sense is supposed to be, that they judged of their own conduct, if they were endued with a particular power of perception, which distinguished the beauty or deformity of passions and affections; as their own passions would be more immediately exposed to the view of this faculty, it would judge with more accuracy concerning them, than concerning those of other men, of which it had only a more distant prospect.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TOMS]This self-deceit, this fatal weakness of mankind, is the source of half the disorders of human life. If we saw ourselves in the light in which others see us, or in which they would see us if they knew all, a reformation would generally be unavoidable. We could not otherwise endure the sight. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TOMS]Nature, however, has not left this weakness, which is of so much importance, altogether without a remedy...
Our continual observations upon the conduct of others, insensibly lead us to form to ourselves certain general rules concerning what is fit and proper....[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=TOMS]Nature, however, has not left this weakness, which is of so much importance, altogether without a remedy; nor has she abandoned us entirely to the delusions of self-love. Our continual observations upon the conduct of others, insensibly lead us to form to ourselves certain general rules concerning what is fit and proper either to be done or to be avoided. Some of their actions shock all our natural sentiments. We hear every body about us express the like detestation against them. This still further confirms, and even exasperates our natural sense of their deformity. It satisfies us that we view them in the proper light, when we see other people view them in the same light. We resolve never to be guilty of the like, nor ever, upon any account, to render ourselves in this manner the objects of universal disapprobation. We thus naturally lay down to ourselves a general rule, that all such actions are to be avoided, as tending to render us odious, contemptible, or punishable, the objects of all those sentiments for which we have the greatest dread and aversion. Other actions, on the contrary, call forth our approbation, and we hear every body around us express the same favourable opinion concerning them. Every body is eager to honour and reward them. They excite all those sentiments for which we have by nature the strongest desire; the love, the gratitude, the admiration of mankind. We become ambitious of performing the like; and thus naturally lay down to ourselves a rule of another kind, that every opportunity of acting in this manner is carefully to be sought after. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TOMS]It is thus that the general rules of morality are formed.[/QUOTE]
He is saying beyond the basic natural inclinations of self-preservation morality is defined by the propriety of the group. And we are hard-wired to adapt to that propriety. The general rules aren't derived from reason, they are inducted from the environment we are exposed to.
I would like to discuss the issue of "likes", and futhermore, propose my academic thesis on the matter.
We all, whether CEOs or janitors, strive for approbation. We feel, viscerally, that our very existence is defined by the impressions we leave upon others, even when we know intellectually that this is not the case.
Sometimes, we make what we think is a good post, and it gets few likes. Other times, we make a bad post, and it gets many likes. It's almost like there is no YouTube-like algorithm to get you mother****ers into line.
So, all that having been said, I'm gonna need one like per post per week from every single one of yous. If anyone has a problem with that, I refer you to the imortal words of Joey The Mafia Corleone: "the dental plan wasn't for you to draw on, it was for you to keep your teef".
I would like to discuss the issue of "likes", and futhermore, propose my academic thesis on the matter.
We all, whether CEOs or janitors, strive for approbation. We feel viscerally that our very existence is defined by the impressions we leave upon others, even when we know intellectually that this is not the case.
Sometimes, we make what we think is a good post, and it gets few likes. Other times, we make a bad post, and it gets many likes.
I don't see a like button and I didn't read all of it, but +1 from me.
LOL. Of course you can. I've done it. You just have to know the proper technique and practice a few times.
like I said you gotta be an expert and practice it. it doesnt work with every kayak either I think and not every person has the ability to do this. Its ficking tricky and unstable. I have a kayak, had many friends to try to climb into it from the water. almost always they f up and could never make it. those were guys only.
most women cant even do a single clean push up. thats not sexist to say, its just reality. not to speak of a pull up. they could never even do one.
LOL. Of course you can. I've done it. You just have to know the proper technique and practice a few times.
nobody of that group was capable of entering those kayaks from the water. how much you wanna bet? they would capsize it on every attempt.
I think rickroll knows how har it is. you have experience with that yourself. how many women would you say are capable of doing this? leaving out its a rental for a second, which is a major factor too.
thats the boat they had. a boat from the rental place on lake atitlan.
how the f do you want to enter this boat from the water??
simple answer: you cant imo. they are not designed to be entered from the water. those are no high end kayaks. they are trash rentals.
most women cant even do a single clean push up. thats not sexist to say, its just reality. not to speak of a pull up. they could never even do one.
I would say most American men would fall in that category as well 😀
Maybe we can get Browser to move this out of the new mod thread and start a how to get into a kayak for dummies thread 😀
can you do that with that one? I highly doubt it. they are not designed for it imo.
from the beals website. https://kayakguatemala.com/tour/kayak-hi...
I would say most American men would fall in that category as well 😀
Maybe we can get Browser to move this out of the new mod thread and start a how to get into a kayak for dummies thread 😀
its not the mod thread. it says its the general discussion thread.
and since lucky is at a murder scene rn I think it fits 😀
men can do generally speaking a lot more here.
I would like to discuss the issue of "likes", and futhermore, propose my academic thesis on the matter.
We all, whether CEOs or janitors, strive for approbation. We feel, viscerally, that our very existence is defined by the impressions we leave upon others, even when we know intellectually that this is not the case.
Sometimes, we make what we think is a good post, and it gets few likes. Other times, we make a bad post, and it gets many likes
Roc, vouch for me here. Everyone thinks extortionists are thugs. They are, at a low level. At a high level, they are very much the guy you see in the Wall Street Uniform (in London, we call that "City Uniform") boy in a stuffed suit. Anyone who is actually a professional can tell them apart.
But these boys make millions. A week. Roc can also attest to this.
I guess, even if you're totally materialistic, it's a trade-off ,if you want to take a seriously nonzero chance of being shot in the street, or doing life without (and whatever morals you had to compromise to get there). I'm not convinced, that for all even its glitz and glamour in the 60s-80s, the ganster lifestyle is worth it.
Everyone wants to get out in time. All the drug dealers whose names you've never heard of are the ones who did.
It really isn't a huge test of strength.
I personally know a woman over the age of fifty who isn't that fit or skinny who can do it with ease. It's really just technique.
yea there are those women who represent probably less than 1% of the general population. but the problem you have here is that these boats here in the video are designed to be boarded from the water. the trash rentals are not. see all the handles and ropes there? those kayakguatemala boats dont have that. they are also much higher from the water, which means they have a higher center of gravity, which makes it nearly impossible to board without capsizing imo.
