Israel/Palestine thread
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No, because the US didn't particularly support Israel until after Britain and France withheld military deliveries in the wake of the Six Day War. In the 1956 Suez Crisis the US very distinctly opposed Israel along with Britain and France. In 1948 the Israelis did very well without any US help except a few volunteer mercenary pilots like Slick Goodlin, famous for failing to make the first supersonic flight in the Bell X-1 as a civilian test
Peewee Herman's dad was another great one
But I'm not lying
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You're blatantly shamelessly lying by denying it and your comment yet again was extremely disingenuous and even more hyperbolic than I originally stated, as I'd forgotten it was a terrorist IDF chemical attack on US soil. You truly are dishonest as your latest lie highlights all the more clearly.
The purpose was to ascertain if Israel w
The court said that it was plausible that it could lead to genocide and that Israel needs to make sure it doesn't
But they said isreal can continue to try to take out hamss
And it said hostages should be returned and didn't mention prisoner swaps
So they clearly ruled it isn't genocide and they need to make sure it doesn't get there but carry on
Peewee Herman's dad was another great one
Also Menahem Golan, one of the creators of the Cannon Group, whose films I grew up on
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menahem_Go...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cannon....
During the Israeli War of Independence, Golan served as a pilot in the Israeli Air Force.
Also Menahem Golan, one of the creators of the Cannon Group, whose films I grew up on
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menahem_Go...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cannon....
I learned about Reubens from this movie
Victor isn't lying in the classical sense. He's more like Trump; he's just completely untethered from the truth and just says whatever feels good.
Victor isn't lying in the classical sense. He's more like Trump; he's just completely untethered from the truth and just says whatever feels good.
I think he is just a normie tankie with all the accompanying horrifying takes all of them always had, against all basic decency and values of non-marxist people.
I mean his take is probably the median, vanilla one among sociology or anthropology college students
But I'm not lying
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You're blatantly shamelessly lying by denying it and your comment yet again was extremely disingenuous and even more hyperbolic than I originally stated, as I'd forgotten it was a terrorist IDF chemical attack on US soil. You truly are dishonest as your latest lie highlights all the more clearly.
The purpose was to ascertain if Israel w
it was a terrorist attack.
and an attack "by IDF forces" is different than the "IDF launching an attack".
The purpose was to ascertain if Israel were committing genocide as accused by South Africa. Court did not decree this, so obviously they didn't believe it, the end.
blatantly false. this has been explained to you a number of times. the court was not going to rule on genocide for this hearing. well, they could have thrown it out which they didnt and instead put Israel on trial.
Dude. You lied when you denied you said this and accused me of lying via my comment. Hello??
And no it isn't different, are you taking the piss? 😆
its def different and its technically true. the best kind of true. its so true that you had to make up a different statement to argue against.
I am ok taking the side of "this is horrible but it's proper for the USA to keep those countries allies in some form, the alternative is just worse.
Try saying "SA is a horrible place led my moral monsters who commit way too many crimes against humanity ... which is why we should invade them" if you want some spiced up conversation
Also I doubt anyone will argue that the USA should invade Saudi Arabia (as if USA military isn't there already) or do anything that will change their government from what it is to civil war.
What 57 said about USA not providing much support to Israel before 1967, but also aid bumped up a ton from '73 to '74, which is the year of the Arab Oil Embargo.
No, because the US didn't particularly support Israel until after Britain and France withheld military deliveries in the wake of the Six Day War. In the 1956 Suez Crisis the US very distinctly opposed Israel along with Britain and France. In 1948 the Israelis did very well without any US help except a few volunteer mercenary pilots like Slick Goodlin, famous for failing to make the first supersonic flight in the Bell X-1 as a civilian test
I agree with you, but you can replace the USA with any country that supplied Israel with arms and money. Without them, it was Holocaust 2.0. And the Americans doing their best since to keep that spirit going is commendable.
I agree with you, but you can replace the USA with any country that supplied Israel with arms and money. Without them, it was Holocaust 2.0. And the Americans doing their best since to keep that spirit going is commendable.
You need weapons to fight, sure, but mostly Israel bought weapons from France and others - and mostly they still do just buy or make weapons. USA aid is like 12% of their defense budget. It would not be holocaust 2.0 without aid.
Wall Street journal says the report that 12 unrwa workers were hamas is fault
They believe it is likely 1200 hamas
I never tried to justify them and obv think that murdering civilians is abhorrent. I am not going to condemn innocent prisoners who are oppressed and violated their entire life when they revolt.
as for narrative, I can only speculate on what their plan was. I dont think it was to just do a bunch of rape and murder. if I had to guess they intended to murder soldiers and take hostages. seems that some fighters proceeded to commit war cri
Liar. You are clearly a racist who supports rape of Israeli women and beheading of Jewish children. This is shown by your condemnation of Israel taking action to protect itself.
according to Shin Bet the Israeli intelligence agency, Hamas did not know there was a festival and did not have a plan to attack it in advance.
now I am not going to accuse you guys of being liars or spreading misinformation. but these are basic facts.
This was a secret unannounced music festival? Not many of those around.
