Super Bowl 58: #3 Kansas City Chiefs vs #1 San Francisco 49ers (-1)

Super Bowl 58: #3 Kansas City Chiefs vs #1 San Francisco 49ers (-1)

Kansas City Chiefs: 11-6, AFC West Champion
WC: 26-7 v Miami
Divisional: 27-24 @ Buffalo
Conference: 17-10 @ Baltimore
Super Bowl Record: 3-2
Last Appearance: Super Bowl 57 (38-35 W v Philadelphia)

How they got here:

If you followed along Kansas City's offense has done everything imaginable to ruin this for Kermit and the Swifties. So many drops, Toney lining up offsides to force them to play on the road, despite an incredible defense this really seemed like the year Kansas City was finally going to be not remotely close to the best team in the AFC. Then they get into the playoffs and put in some ****ing work. Mahomes scored 14 points in the first 2 drives, a field goal since and that was good enough to beat the ****ing Ravens at home. Pretty eye-opening no matter how you look at it.

Mahomes played on the road in the playoffs for the first time in his career (which in it of itself is an insane stat for a guy who is now playing in his 4th Super Bowl) and they put in work. They played on the road for the second time in his career. And they put in work. Patrick Mahomes remains the only active NFL player with equity to go down as the greatest to ever play.

San Francisco 49ers: 12-5, NFC West Champion
WC: Bye
Divisional: 24-21 v Green Bay
Conference: 34-31 v Detroit
Super Bowl Record: 5-2
Last Appearance: Super Bowl 54 (31-20 L v Kansas City)
Last Win: Super Bowl 29 (49-26 v San Diego)

How they got here:

Holy ****ing ****.

The Niners started the season 5-0 and in doing so looked like a generationally dominant team that was going to run away with the NFL.

Then they lost Trent and Deebo, lost 3 straight and looked like total ass doing so causing everyone to assume they were frauds.

Then they won 6 straight and in doing so looked like a generationally dominant team and Brock ****ing Purdy was the runaway betting favorite to win the MVP.

Then Christmas happened.

But all's well that ends well and they made the playoffs as the #1 seed.

Then the Green Bay game happened.

For 50 minutes Bork played like I would and the Niners looked finished. Then he pulled a hell of a comeback out of his ass and they won.

Then the Detroit game happened.

I literally just watched this game a couple hours ago and I still can't explain to you what happened and how except that somehow someway the Niners won. And that's cool!

What makes this Super Bowl so compelling

I can see why people hate both of these franchises for a thousand different reasons, but brace yourself for what will be the most watched televised sporting event (possibly most watched television event of any kind) in American history. And it probably lives up to that. Obviously the Swift element is...a thing. And we are going to have 2 weeks of lead-up for that which will be...a thing. But put that aside for a second and there are stories galore.

Whatever you think of Brock Purdy, last year he was the last pick of the draft. This year he is starting in the Super Bowl. Could he have pulled this off if any other team drafted him? Of course not. He fell ass backwards into an epic situation and the Niners fell ass backwards into a lucky draft pick. Trading 3 1s to move up in the most overrated draft in history only to have your franchise QB be some random guy from Iowa who only got the job because the two guys in front of him went down? If this weren't shoved down your throat for the better part of a year and a half it's the coolest story since Kurt Warner, bagman, who only got the job because the two guys in front of him went down. Btw, this time last year the guy broke his ****ing elbow and yet here we are.

Holy **** Patrick Mahomes. 6 years as a starter. Has made it to the AFC Championship 6 times. Has made it to the Super Bowl 4 times. Has a chance to get his 3rd ring and the ****er is only 28. He won't have Brady level longevity but we are witnessing absolute greatness like most of us have not seen in our lifetime. It sucks if you are a fan of any other team but the Chefs but still.

Rumors circulating this may be the last ride of the Walrus. Historically the man is both massive and massively underrated. His work with Philadelphia was both amazing and unlucky. His work with Kansas City has been nothing short of legendary. 4 Super Bowl appearances in 5 years with the potential for 3 wins. I would argue he is the actual greatest coach in NFL history.

Which is a good segue into the modern day iteration of Philadelphia Walrus. Ever since the Falcons implosion I would argue no coach in the NFL has more more criticism despite more success than Kyle Shanahan. The guy is an objectively brilliant offensive mind and in his 7 years as Niners coach they have gone to the NFC Championship 4 of the last 5 years and twice have made it to the Super Bowl. And they did this with QB luminaries like the Womp and the Bork. Kyle schemes like nobody in the NFL can but every time the Niners fell short it all fell on him despite the fact that they overperformed to get where they were in the first place.

This game is a rematch of Super Bowl 54 which still hurts my ****ing soul (Bosa was held on 4th and Tyreek, never believe different). These two teams don't have much history but the history they do have is massive. SB 54 kickstarted the Chiefs dynasty and the failure of Womp to close it kickstarted the Niners neverending hunt for a franchise QB that went from maybe Brady to maybe Rodgers to maybe Lance to....Purdy? Lots of trajectories changed 4 years ago and we come full circle.

Why the Chiefs will win the Super Bowl

This defense is good. Like, really good. Like, really really good. Pacheco has stepped up and the Niners run defense has been horrendous so far in the playoffs. Plus, you know, that Patrick Mahomes guy. Mahomes smoked the Ravens for the first 2 drives on the road which is as comparable as there is to a theoretical matchup with the Niners defense. The Niners have been pretty lax the entire playoffs to start the game and 1. both games are at home and 2. neither teams they faced are as good as Kansas City. There is no margin of error for lazy bullshit and if the Niners bring that energy to the Super Bowl this is going to be a ****ing rout.

Why the 49ers will win the Super Bowl

The Niners have an overwhelming amount of talent. The biggest knock against them is that they could not play from behind and the entire playoffs they had to come from behind. Were they lucky against the Lions? Absolutely. But they proved that even down 17 points they have a QB who is not going to be overwhelmed by the moment and a defense that can still step up when needed even if they failed catastrophically. As good as the Chiefs defense is they have yet to face an offense like the 49ers with as much efficiency and talent across the board as they have. Plus this defense is ludicrously talented. They may take 30 minutes to get jumpstarted but once they do they are locked in.






Gentlemen, let us Super Bowl.

29 January 2024 at 05:08 AM
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Chefs have been groomed!


Taylor Swift effect. Chiefs win by 24 points.


Can't wait for the coverage of the human stories of the Kelce brothers and Taylor Swift's meteoric rise as a pop sensation.


Never in a million years would I have expected cowherd to be the voice of reason


Kansas City Chiefs +600
Philadelphia Eagles +750
Buffalo Bills +900
San Francisco 49ers +1000
Cincinnati Bengals +1000
Dallas Cowboys +1400
New York Jets +1600
Baltimore Ravens +1800


wowow scriptwriters at it again, putting preseason favs in the superbowl vs nfc #2 ... you can't make it up! folks


It was written.


by suzzer99 P

Chiefs will have hardest SB path by opposing DVOA (4 games) if they beat SF.
— Aaron Schatz


chefs have been put to the test, while over in the nfc the niners have been the tallest ... dwarf? little person? bork? dinklage? yeah, they've been the tallest dinklage

makes u think (chefs by 20)


“He’s a phenomenal quarterback… In what world makes you want to hate on this guy? What has he done that says you shouldn’t like who he is or what he’s about? The guy is in the Super Bowl as Mr. Irrelevant in two years.” - JJ Watt


by ethbtc88 P

“He’s a phenomenal quarterback… In what world makes you want to hate on this guy? What has he done that says you shouldn’t like who he is or what he’s about? The guy is in the Super Bowl as Mr. Irrelevant in two years.” - JJ Watt

Oh yeah, and thats after ****ing his elbow up when he probably would have been in the SB first year if he hadn't. He's setting records left and right, he just led two enormous comebacks against teams with 0 to lose, and oh yeah he has the best RB in the league going against a fairly mediocre run defense.

People counting the Niners out after the last two weeks have a screw loose. It will be a close game, and Im seeing a number of people making KC -7 type posts which is ludicrous.


And he has flaws, oh so many flaws, chief amongst them being he can't play in weather and has a real problem getting over a lot of lines, which either turn into blocks or floaters. He stays in the pocket slightly too long which leads to tips to ints. Look at the majority of his INTs this year. They are mostly tipped at the line or his hand is hit as he throws. Those are all things that he can get better at.

But he's adapting. A few of his scambles last week wpuld have previously been him trying to force a throw through people right in his face. He correctly made decisions that were as much responsible for that comeback as anything else that happened in the game.


by StoppedRainingMen P

Never in a million years would I have expected cowherd to be the voice of reason


Uncle Colin at work!


He's had some great insights over the years I've found, surprisingly enough they were never about sports.


by master3004 P

Oh yeah, and thats after ****ing his elbow up when he probably would have been in the SB first year if he hadn't. He's setting records left and right, he just led two enormous comebacks against teams with 0 to lose, and oh yeah he has the best RB in the league going against a fairly mediocre run defense.

People counting the Niners out after the last two weeks have a screw loose. It will be a close game, and Im seeing a number of people maki

I simultaneously will be delighted and brought to great sadness, if I watch SF and CMC run the ball to great success next weekend.


Andy Reid figured out the Chiefs leak the whole season was Kadarius Toney.


by master3004 P


People counting the Niners out after the last two weeks have a screw loose. It will be a close game, and Im seeing a number of people making KC -7 type posts which is ludicrous.

Smash kc up to -13.5
Might start fading if crosses to -14.5


by ethbtc88 P

“He’s a phenomenal quarterback… In what world makes you want to hate on this guy? What has he done that says you shouldn’t like who he is or what he’s about? The guy is in the Super Bowl as Mr. Irrelevant in two years.” - JJ Watt

Cam Newton with the counter argument: “To be labeled a game changer, Brock Purdy has to be the best player on the offensive side of the ball and that’s not the case… Man look, I ain’t recanting ****, and if you really just want to be honest, Brock Purdy is the 10th-best player on the #49ers.”

Personally I agree with him on Purdy being the 10th best player on the 49ers (I'd say 5th or so) but that doesn't say anything bad about Purdy. He's just on a great team. He's not as good as X is a really dumb reason to hate on somebody. Why does he need to be better than arbitrary other players to be worthy of respect?


by g-bebe P

I simultaneously will be delighted and brought to great sadness, if I watch SF and CMC run the ball to great success next weekend.


What would you prefer, successful 49ers running game to prove that Baltimore's game plan was beyond stupid or unsuccessful 49ers run game which might mean the Ravens plan wasn't that bad?


by madlex P

What would you prefer, successful 49ers running game to prove that Baltimore's game plan was beyond stupid or unsuccessful 49ers run game which might mean the Ravens plan wasn't that bad?

I need to think on this for a week, but it might be the former.


Actually I have months to think on it. BAH


This is the ideal male body



by SuperSwag P

This is the ideal male body



Those 3 are the only players with multiple Super Bowl MVP awards since 1990.


I’m going to hammer the KC moneyline. I might be wrong- this game is going to be a coin flip I feel and just think value is on KC.

I thought SF played pretty meh last 2 games where they kinda had to get lucky to claw out wins at home when they are supposed to be top dawg in the nfc. I also think the moment “could” be too big for Brock purdy. With Patrick Mahomes, I know he isn’t going to be nervous and will be ready to bring his A game. I could see Purdy being a tad tight playing in his first Super Bowl.

Btw, when JK is on a side, it’s normally sharp to go the other way hahaha. Should be a good game. Maybe I’m way off but I just can see KC winning this game 55-60% of the time.


by Jkpoker10 P

I thought SF played pretty meh last 2 games where they kinda had to get lucky to claw out wins at home when they are supposed to be top dawg in the nfc.

That's accurate and why my prediction is a blowout. There is no guarantee this is the game they do it but they've done this several times. They regress and then they just maul people and snap back. So if this is that time they snap back, the Chiefs are capital F ****ed. 42-12.


by ethbtc88 P

That's accurate and why my prediction is a blowout. There is no guarantee this is the game they do it but they've done this several times. They regress and then they just maul people and snap back. So if this is that time they snap back, the Chiefs are capital F ****ed. 42-12.

Wouldn't mind betting -29.5 both ways. Someone gonna get fisted.

*in before Taylor Swift


by g-bebe P

I simultaneously will be delighted and brought to great sadness, if I watch SF and CMC run the ball to great success next weekend.

Buffalo already proved two weeks ago that you can run the ball on KC, McDuffie and Sneed were statistically one of the top 3 CB duos in the league this year, Lamar is 10x better at running than he is at throwing, Baltimore's gameplan was mindboggling.

CMC needs to be getting 20 carries minimum


by ethbtc88 P

That's accurate and why my prediction is a blowout. There is no guarantee this is the game they do it but they've done this several times. They regress and then they just maul people and snap back. So if this is that time they snap back, the Chiefs are capital F ****ed. 42-12.

This logic is laughable in my opinion but hey, I might be wrong so ill never say it’s completely incompetent.

Idk, I think blowout is an outlier type event in a superbowl. 2 teams that seem well coached. Idk super bowls tend to be close games because we get 2 weeks of extra coaching and talented teams that tend to not blow up with mistakes like turnovers, bad qb decisions, etc. predicting a blowout seems a little laughable- idk nfl profits off the game being close. Not saying anything like it’s rigged etc (that thought is just stupid) but close games lead to a better product and more eyeballs on the screen.

Idk, if a team plays poorly and has to be saved 2 times. I think we can generalize maybe they are a tad overrated. 2 tough games at home. I know it’s the playoffs but I get the 49ers layed over both teams they had trouble with- if lions coach just does +ev move and kicks fgs, he prolly wins game lol- I’ll still never understand his thoughts. All that matters in a playoff game is you win by 1 point. Nobody cares if you win by 10-30. Just winning the game is where the value is at. Decisions should be made to increase % of you winning and in a way to
Not give momentum to other team.


Total side note- some girl I’m talking to on dating app is ravens fan. She told me the chiefs get all of the calls and implied nfl is rigged. I wanted to say you are an idiot but didn’t. Anyone that thinks nfl is rigged is stupid.


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