US Immigration Crisis

US Immigration Crisis

I didn’t see an immigration thread so I figured I would add one. This problem seems to be worsening everyday of the current admin. Hopefully some of our new elected officials can help with this. Mr. Luttrell is a great start

20 April 2023 at 04:46 PM
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by Luciom P

Are you serious here? roe v wade, role of federal agencies, smoking bans, you think everything is predetermined by "the system" and voting never changes those kinds of things?

why aren't plastic straws banned in all cities? why do some states have castle doctrine defense allowed, in others you have to flee from your home if people enter armed?

voting matters, the opinion of the people who vote in a place matter, they shape what is allowed an

Everything you listed here was not decided by voting in my state, except one. Most of it is common law and legislation.


by jjjou812 P

Everything you listed here was not decided by voting in my state, except one. Most of it is common law and legislation.

Lol voting matters even in representative democracy, it's one more step but it's not like it erases the value of voting


by Luciom P

If you mean like when it I was unconstitutional to have a federal income tax, there was no EPA, no FDA, and fiscal intake as a percentage of GDP local+state+fed was in the single digits, sign me up!

I don't necessarily agree with you on those things, but regardless, I wouldn't let people enacting laws that I didn't like turn me into a kidnapper.


by Luciom P

Have I ever denied or minimized the value of inheritance?

Have I ever said I am an American citizen (I am not)

So... nothing, then? I'm marking you down as "nothing."


by Trolly McTrollson P

So... nothing, then? I'm marking you down as "nothing."

I haven't done anything to not get something I don't have, incredible uh?


by Luciom P

I haven't done anything to not get something I don't have, incredible uh?

No, it's incredible that you demand others earn a right that you yourself didn't have to earn.


by Trolly McTrollson P

No, it's incredible that you demand others earn a right that you yourself didn't have to earn.

I didn't have to earn American citizenship because I am not an American citizen.

But in general no it's not incredible to ask for people to do something worthwhile to join a group many people want to join, even if some of the group member didnt do much to be members of such group


I am not a Marine so everyone should be allowed to become a Marine no question asked, just enter a Marine barrack -Trollson


by Luciom P

I am not scared about cheap labor at all, but i am scared of diluting the pool of voters with people who vote against my interest.

by Luciom P

Have I ever denied or minimized the value of inheritance?

Have I ever said I am an American citizen (I am not)

How do American immigrants (legal and not) vote against your interests?


by Luciom P

I am not a Marine so everyone should be allowed to become a Marine no question asked, just enter a Marine barrack -Trollson

You should still probably have to do at least 5 pullups.


by King Spew P

How do American immigrants (legal and not) vote against your interests?

My dad is an American citizen.

And everything that happens in the capital of the empire (the USA) has repercussions in the empire.

I live in Europe and american politican decisions materially affect my life, and culturally shape our nations.

EDIT for additional details: the USA is the only country in the world where there are sizeable pockets of actual libertarianism, the last beacon of hope for libertarians everywhere on the planet.

Everywhere else collectivism won every single fight.


by Luckbox Inc P

You should still probably have to do at least 5 pullups.

I can't but running from ICE was enough according to my yoga instructor


by Luciom P

I didn't have to earn American citizenship because I am not an American citizen.

Nonetheless you didn't do anything to become a citizen of whatever backwater European nation you live in but you're still happy to demand other people jump through hoops to immigrate to your country.


by Trolly McTrollson P

Nonetheless you didn't do anything to become a citizen of whatever backwater European nation you live in but you're still happy to demand other people jump through hoops to immigrate to your country.

In the anti-family, blank slate view of the left, you can deny inheritance to be one of the crucial defining element of human coexistence.

If you open your mind to the idea that you do inherit the merits of your ancestors because DNA matters and property rights don't cease with death, you could try to understand a model in which individuals don't matter that much but actual families, bloodlines, are what define human societies.

In that worldview, you don't need to INDIVIDUALLY deserve anything, your family of which you are just a cog of does.

Blood is thick and matters more than everything else for people who didn't forget the lessons of history.

And blood is what gives you a right to citizenship.

Ius sanguinis.


In Guatemala apparently you just have to leave the country every 3 months-- but I just learned you have to go to Mexico or Belize you can't go to El Salvador because they won't stamp you there. Apparently when you travel to any of Guatemala/El Salvador/Nicaragua it's all the same.90 days you get...but you can stay forever just leaving every 3 months and you don't even have to be gone a day.


by Luckbox Inc P

In Guatemala apparently you just have to leave the country every 3 months-- but I just learned you have to go to Mexico or Belize you can't go to El Salvador because they won't stamp you there. Apparently when you travel to any of Guatemala/El Salvador/Nicaragua it's all the same.90 days you get...but you can stay forever just leaving every 3 months and you don't even have to be gone a day.

Brazil was similar for many people up until recently, your 90 days visa-free stay could be reset by travel (with some caveats)


If open borders became a thing I wonder what sort of changes Latin American countries would see. What if they lost a bunch of their workforce?


by Luciom P

Brazil was similar for many people up until recently, your 90 days visa-free stay could be reset by travel (with some caveats)

Brazil has become a pain to travel to again under Lulo and I have 900 reals I need to get rid of.


by Luckbox Inc P

Brazil has become a pain to travel to again under Lulo and I have 900 reals I need to get rid of.

Don't worry they must be worth 5 bucks or something right now or will be soon


by Luckbox Inc P

If open borders became a thing I wonder what sort of changes Latin American countries would see. What if they lost a bunch of their workforce?

Just check Moldavia or Ukraine (pre war), wastelands deprived of young ambitious adults, they all went away

(Moldovans in most cases get EU access through Romania, because Romania prints passports for them under the "your great great great parent once was Romanian")


I don't have a problem with open borders personally but I think that people who advocate for it should at least recognize that there is a potential for more problems than benefits.

I think eventually some sort of stasis would argue though where eventually the US would become a country that people no longer wanted to come to.


by Luckbox Inc P

I don't have a problem with open borders personally but I think that people who advocate for it should at least recognize that there is a potential for more problems than benefits.

I think eventually some sort of stasis would argue though where eventually the US would become a country that people no longer wanted to come to.

It might force other countries to become better.

As far as the first paragraph, yes, there could be more potential for problems. Doubt it, but it's possible.


by Luckbox Inc P

I don't have a problem with open borders personally but I think that people who advocate for it should at least recognize that there is a potential for more problems than benefits.

I think eventually some sort of stasis would argue though where eventually the US would become a country that people no longer wanted to come to.

some people actually do, "brain drain" considerations exist among thoughtful people


Extreme travel vlogger bald and bankrupt recently joined "the treck" in South America:

Part 2 is a bit more gruesome:


by microbet P

I'd be fine if they came here, but I don't like people being shoved on busses and taken places against their will because I love freedom.

Most of the people would much rather be in a sanctuary city/state rather than Texas right? If your only issue is "against their will", then lol


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