Super Bowl 58: #3 Kansas City Chiefs vs #1 San Francisco 49ers (-1)

Super Bowl 58: #3 Kansas City Chiefs vs #1 San Francisco 49ers (-1)

Kansas City Chiefs: 11-6, AFC West Champion
WC: 26-7 v Miami
Divisional: 27-24 @ Buffalo
Conference: 17-10 @ Baltimore
Super Bowl Record: 3-2
Last Appearance: Super Bowl 57 (38-35 W v Philadelphia)

How they got here:

If you followed along Kansas City's offense has done everything imaginable to ruin this for Kermit and the Swifties. So many drops, Toney lining up offsides to force them to play on the road, despite an incredible defense this really seemed like the year Kansas City was finally going to be not remotely close to the best team in the AFC. Then they get into the playoffs and put in some ****ing work. Mahomes scored 14 points in the first 2 drives, a field goal since and that was good enough to beat the ****ing Ravens at home. Pretty eye-opening no matter how you look at it.

Mahomes played on the road in the playoffs for the first time in his career (which in it of itself is an insane stat for a guy who is now playing in his 4th Super Bowl) and they put in work. They played on the road for the second time in his career. And they put in work. Patrick Mahomes remains the only active NFL player with equity to go down as the greatest to ever play.

San Francisco 49ers: 12-5, NFC West Champion
WC: Bye
Divisional: 24-21 v Green Bay
Conference: 34-31 v Detroit
Super Bowl Record: 5-2
Last Appearance: Super Bowl 54 (31-20 L v Kansas City)
Last Win: Super Bowl 29 (49-26 v San Diego)

How they got here:

Holy ****ing ****.

The Niners started the season 5-0 and in doing so looked like a generationally dominant team that was going to run away with the NFL.

Then they lost Trent and Deebo, lost 3 straight and looked like total ass doing so causing everyone to assume they were frauds.

Then they won 6 straight and in doing so looked like a generationally dominant team and Brock ****ing Purdy was the runaway betting favorite to win the MVP.

Then Christmas happened.

But all's well that ends well and they made the playoffs as the #1 seed.

Then the Green Bay game happened.

For 50 minutes Bork played like I would and the Niners looked finished. Then he pulled a hell of a comeback out of his ass and they won.

Then the Detroit game happened.

I literally just watched this game a couple hours ago and I still can't explain to you what happened and how except that somehow someway the Niners won. And that's cool!

What makes this Super Bowl so compelling

I can see why people hate both of these franchises for a thousand different reasons, but brace yourself for what will be the most watched televised sporting event (possibly most watched television event of any kind) in American history. And it probably lives up to that. Obviously the Swift element is...a thing. And we are going to have 2 weeks of lead-up for that which will be...a thing. But put that aside for a second and there are stories galore.

Whatever you think of Brock Purdy, last year he was the last pick of the draft. This year he is starting in the Super Bowl. Could he have pulled this off if any other team drafted him? Of course not. He fell ass backwards into an epic situation and the Niners fell ass backwards into a lucky draft pick. Trading 3 1s to move up in the most overrated draft in history only to have your franchise QB be some random guy from Iowa who only got the job because the two guys in front of him went down? If this weren't shoved down your throat for the better part of a year and a half it's the coolest story since Kurt Warner, bagman, who only got the job because the two guys in front of him went down. Btw, this time last year the guy broke his ****ing elbow and yet here we are.

Holy **** Patrick Mahomes. 6 years as a starter. Has made it to the AFC Championship 6 times. Has made it to the Super Bowl 4 times. Has a chance to get his 3rd ring and the ****er is only 28. He won't have Brady level longevity but we are witnessing absolute greatness like most of us have not seen in our lifetime. It sucks if you are a fan of any other team but the Chefs but still.

Rumors circulating this may be the last ride of the Walrus. Historically the man is both massive and massively underrated. His work with Philadelphia was both amazing and unlucky. His work with Kansas City has been nothing short of legendary. 4 Super Bowl appearances in 5 years with the potential for 3 wins. I would argue he is the actual greatest coach in NFL history.

Which is a good segue into the modern day iteration of Philadelphia Walrus. Ever since the Falcons implosion I would argue no coach in the NFL has more more criticism despite more success than Kyle Shanahan. The guy is an objectively brilliant offensive mind and in his 7 years as Niners coach they have gone to the NFC Championship 4 of the last 5 years and twice have made it to the Super Bowl. And they did this with QB luminaries like the Womp and the Bork. Kyle schemes like nobody in the NFL can but every time the Niners fell short it all fell on him despite the fact that they overperformed to get where they were in the first place.

This game is a rematch of Super Bowl 54 which still hurts my ****ing soul (Bosa was held on 4th and Tyreek, never believe different). These two teams don't have much history but the history they do have is massive. SB 54 kickstarted the Chiefs dynasty and the failure of Womp to close it kickstarted the Niners neverending hunt for a franchise QB that went from maybe Brady to maybe Rodgers to maybe Lance to....Purdy? Lots of trajectories changed 4 years ago and we come full circle.

Why the Chiefs will win the Super Bowl

This defense is good. Like, really good. Like, really really good. Pacheco has stepped up and the Niners run defense has been horrendous so far in the playoffs. Plus, you know, that Patrick Mahomes guy. Mahomes smoked the Ravens for the first 2 drives on the road which is as comparable as there is to a theoretical matchup with the Niners defense. The Niners have been pretty lax the entire playoffs to start the game and 1. both games are at home and 2. neither teams they faced are as good as Kansas City. There is no margin of error for lazy bullshit and if the Niners bring that energy to the Super Bowl this is going to be a ****ing rout.

Why the 49ers will win the Super Bowl

The Niners have an overwhelming amount of talent. The biggest knock against them is that they could not play from behind and the entire playoffs they had to come from behind. Were they lucky against the Lions? Absolutely. But they proved that even down 17 points they have a QB who is not going to be overwhelmed by the moment and a defense that can still step up when needed even if they failed catastrophically. As good as the Chiefs defense is they have yet to face an offense like the 49ers with as much efficiency and talent across the board as they have. Plus this defense is ludicrously talented. They may take 30 minutes to get jumpstarted but once they do they are locked in.






Gentlemen, let us Super Bowl.

29 January 2024 at 05:08 AM
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I kinda prefer Traylor over Tayvis. Also not sure if I want to dress the kid like Kelce.



I just don't see how KC pulls this off. I'm not sure KC got this far by raising their game as much as their opponents played down to their level (I'm talking about Buf and Bal; Miami just sucks). With two weeks to prepare and superior talent, I think SF wins this easily. It will be like a TB vc KC superbowl level thrashing.



+20,000 SE Forum Points to The Suzz


by Tom Ames P

Why doesn't ROG just push the kickoff back several hours?

😃


by Melkerson P

I just don't see how KC pulls this off. I'm not sure KC got this far by raising their game as much as their opponents played down to their level (I'm talking about Buf and Bal; Miami just sucks). With two weeks to prepare and superior talent, I think SF wins this easily. It will be like a TB vc KC superbowl level thrashing.

Obviously I want to believe this, but if you haven’t been paying close attention to the 9ers before the playoffs you probably missed that Wilks is probably the single worst coordinator on either side in all of football. If Ryans were still the DC Niners are favored by at least 7

The Niners have maybe the most talent on defense of any team in football and that buffoon not only can’t figure out how to scheme anything to stop anyone that isn’t just talent winning out, he has the nerve to sit and bitch that people are giving him too much crap. Zero competence and zero accountability is a pretty bad combo

Pacheco is the wild card in all this. If he runs on the Niners even 75% as dominant as Jones and the lions did this is going to be a ****ing nightmare. If wilks finally figured out how to call plays with a passable level of success, then maybe not


Also, Chiefs have the GOAT.


Had a $25 bonus bet on DraftKings and whipped this up for the Superb Owl:

+575
Deebo 50+ receiving yards
Kelce 70+ receiving yards
CMC 80+ rushing yards
Pacheco 60+ rushing yards


by Melkerson P

I just don't see how KC pulls this off. I'm not sure KC got this far by raising their game as much as their opponents played down to their level (I'm talking about Buf and Bal; Miami just sucks). With two weeks to prepare and superior talent, I think SF wins this easily. It will be like a TB vc KC superbowl level thrashing.

not sure about a blowout but i do think SF has a lot of the intangible factors in their favor

1. Revenge factor from the last time they met in the SB
2. the Nothing to Lose factor from basically coming back from the dead in the NFC title game. kind of like Michigan this year after they snuck by Bama in the semis or KC last year when they were very fortunate to make it past Cincy
3. the Nobody thinks we can do it factor, most great teams carry a chip on their shoulder whether its real or perceived, and everyone and their mother seems to be picking KC right now


I’d say 1-3 have negligible impact in the outcome


by StoppedRainingMen P

Pacheco is the wild card in all this. If he runs on the Niners, this is going to be a ****ing nightmare.


As Isiah Pacheco goes, so goes the K.C. Chiefs.

A 90 yard game and a TD by Pacheco outta be enough.


by muttiah P

I’d say 1-3 have negligible impact in the outcome

Hellmuth was right was wrong


by Melkerson P

I just don't see how KC pulls this off. I'm not sure KC got this far by raising their game as much as their opponents played down to their level (I'm talking about Buf and Bal; Miami just sucks). With two weeks to prepare and superior talent, I think SF wins this easily. It will be like a TB vc KC superbowl level thrashing.


the 29ers eked out home wins vs the nfc north ... they ain't thrashing nobody


by 72off P

the 29ers eked out home wins vs the nfc north ... they ain't thrashing nobody

Well both of those teams did also beat the Chefs.


by StoppedRainingMen P

Obviously I want to believe this, but if you haven’t been paying close attention to the 9ers before the playoffs you probably missed that Wilks is probably the single worst coordinator on either side in all of football. If Ryans were still the DC Niners are favored by at least 7

The Niners have maybe the most talent on defense of any team in football and that buffoon not only can’t figure out how to scheme anything to stop anyone that isn’t

No one is a bigger pessimist about their own team than I am, so I definitely understand where you're coming from. I think you're gonna be fine. But I get it. Mahomes should make anyone nervous.


by Melkerson P

Well both of those teams did also beat the Chefs.

yeah, 1-point week one loss to the lions, and an 8-point loss at lambo. funny their biggset loss all season was 15 to the boncos. others were by 3, 4 and 6.


actually between the chefs d being Actually Good, mahomes being mahomes, and bork being bork, i feel like a 29ers blowout is probably the most unlikely outcome


Last time these two teams played in the Super Bowl was the month before the pandemic blew up

This time is right when America is about to probably go to war with Iran

Mebbe for the good of humanity no more chefs Niners super bowls


by 72off P

yeah, 1-point week one loss to the lions, and an 8-point loss at lambo. funny their biggset loss all season was 15 to the boncos. others were by 3, 4 and 6.


Loss to Lions was the Kadarius Toney game (vol. 1), loss to the Packers that ridiculous non PI call.

They had two terrible losses (Broncos, Raiders) and a couple pretty ugly wins though.


Chiefs also beat the Ravens pretty handily, who destroyed SF. If you're into that kind of thing.


I’m not


A blowout in either direction would shock the hell out of me. I can see a garbage time svore making it a 2 score game but my money’s on one team catching up to the other


need the refs to get involved, followed by a last second game-winning td for bork or kelce for all the takes


Refs aren't gonna want a blowout or a defensive struggle.


by suzzer99 P

Refs aren't gonna want a blowout or a defensive struggle.

Please tell me Cheffers is working this game.


If anything reffs will get involved in keeping it competitive as long as possible. If that means a bad DPI call, a blown whistle that prevents a turnover, a pick 6 that becomes roughing the passer, etc., then so be it.


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