Super Bowl 58: #3 Kansas City Chiefs vs #1 San Francisco 49ers (-1)
Kansas City Chiefs: 11-6, AFC West Champion
WC: 26-7 v Miami
Divisional: 27-24 @ Buffalo
Conference: 17-10 @ Baltimore
Super Bowl Record: 3-2
Last Appearance: Super Bowl 57 (38-35 W v Philadelphia)
How they got here:
If you followed along Kansas City's offense has done everything imaginable to ruin this for Kermit and the Swifties. So many drops, Toney lining up offsides to force them to play on the road, despite an incredible defense this really seemed like the year Kansas City was finally going to be not remotely close to the best team in the AFC. Then they get into the playoffs and put in some ****ing work. Mahomes scored 14 points in the first 2 drives, a field goal since and that was good enough to beat the ****ing Ravens at home. Pretty eye-opening no matter how you look at it.
Mahomes played on the road in the playoffs for the first time in his career (which in it of itself is an insane stat for a guy who is now playing in his 4th Super Bowl) and they put in work. They played on the road for the second time in his career. And they put in work. Patrick Mahomes remains the only active NFL player with equity to go down as the greatest to ever play.
San Francisco 49ers: 12-5, NFC West Champion
WC: Bye
Divisional: 24-21 v Green Bay
Conference: 34-31 v Detroit
Super Bowl Record: 5-2
Last Appearance: Super Bowl 54 (31-20 L v Kansas City)
Last Win: Super Bowl 29 (49-26 v San Diego)
How they got here:
Holy ****ing ****.
The Niners started the season 5-0 and in doing so looked like a generationally dominant team that was going to run away with the NFL.
Then they lost Trent and Deebo, lost 3 straight and looked like total ass doing so causing everyone to assume they were frauds.
Then they won 6 straight and in doing so looked like a generationally dominant team and Brock ****ing Purdy was the runaway betting favorite to win the MVP.
Then Christmas happened.
But all's well that ends well and they made the playoffs as the #1 seed.
Then the Green Bay game happened.
For 50 minutes Bork played like I would and the Niners looked finished. Then he pulled a hell of a comeback out of his ass and they won.
Then the Detroit game happened.
I literally just watched this game a couple hours ago and I still can't explain to you what happened and how except that somehow someway the Niners won. And that's cool!
What makes this Super Bowl so compelling
I can see why people hate both of these franchises for a thousand different reasons, but brace yourself for what will be the most watched televised sporting event (possibly most watched television event of any kind) in American history. And it probably lives up to that. Obviously the Swift element is...a thing. And we are going to have 2 weeks of lead-up for that which will be...a thing. But put that aside for a second and there are stories galore.
Whatever you think of Brock Purdy, last year he was the last pick of the draft. This year he is starting in the Super Bowl. Could he have pulled this off if any other team drafted him? Of course not. He fell ass backwards into an epic situation and the Niners fell ass backwards into a lucky draft pick. Trading 3 1s to move up in the most overrated draft in history only to have your franchise QB be some random guy from Iowa who only got the job because the two guys in front of him went down? If this weren't shoved down your throat for the better part of a year and a half it's the coolest story since Kurt Warner, bagman, who only got the job because the two guys in front of him went down. Btw, this time last year the guy broke his ****ing elbow and yet here we are.
Holy **** Patrick Mahomes. 6 years as a starter. Has made it to the AFC Championship 6 times. Has made it to the Super Bowl 4 times. Has a chance to get his 3rd ring and the ****er is only 28. He won't have Brady level longevity but we are witnessing absolute greatness like most of us have not seen in our lifetime. It sucks if you are a fan of any other team but the Chefs but still.
Rumors circulating this may be the last ride of the Walrus. Historically the man is both massive and massively underrated. His work with Philadelphia was both amazing and unlucky. His work with Kansas City has been nothing short of legendary. 4 Super Bowl appearances in 5 years with the potential for 3 wins. I would argue he is the actual greatest coach in NFL history.
Which is a good segue into the modern day iteration of Philadelphia Walrus. Ever since the Falcons implosion I would argue no coach in the NFL has more more criticism despite more success than Kyle Shanahan. The guy is an objectively brilliant offensive mind and in his 7 years as Niners coach they have gone to the NFC Championship 4 of the last 5 years and twice have made it to the Super Bowl. And they did this with QB luminaries like the Womp and the Bork. Kyle schemes like nobody in the NFL can but every time the Niners fell short it all fell on him despite the fact that they overperformed to get where they were in the first place.
This game is a rematch of Super Bowl 54 which still hurts my ****ing soul (Bosa was held on 4th and Tyreek, never believe different). These two teams don't have much history but the history they do have is massive. SB 54 kickstarted the Chiefs dynasty and the failure of Womp to close it kickstarted the Niners neverending hunt for a franchise QB that went from maybe Brady to maybe Rodgers to maybe Lance to....Purdy? Lots of trajectories changed 4 years ago and we come full circle.
Why the Chiefs will win the Super Bowl
This defense is good. Like, really good. Like, really really good. Pacheco has stepped up and the Niners run defense has been horrendous so far in the playoffs. Plus, you know, that Patrick Mahomes guy. Mahomes smoked the Ravens for the first 2 drives on the road which is as comparable as there is to a theoretical matchup with the Niners defense. The Niners have been pretty lax the entire playoffs to start the game and 1. both games are at home and 2. neither teams they faced are as good as Kansas City. There is no margin of error for lazy bullshit and if the Niners bring that energy to the Super Bowl this is going to be a ****ing rout.
Why the 49ers will win the Super Bowl
The Niners have an overwhelming amount of talent. The biggest knock against them is that they could not play from behind and the entire playoffs they had to come from behind. Were they lucky against the Lions? Absolutely. But they proved that even down 17 points they have a QB who is not going to be overwhelmed by the moment and a defense that can still step up when needed even if they failed catastrophically. As good as the Chiefs defense is they have yet to face an offense like the 49ers with as much efficiency and talent across the board as they have. Plus this defense is ludicrously talented. They may take 30 minutes to get jumpstarted but once they do they are locked in.
Gentlemen, let us Super Bowl.
Niners are still whining about not getting a holding call on Bosa when we ran Wasp. Iffy call and according to experts probably not even holding. But of course the amateur still-frame holding experts are all over it.
The push off on Kittle before the half was ticky tack and probably cost them 3 pts. I can't remember any other controversial calls.
I think Vinovich is one of the better refs the NFL has.
I think Wrolstad is pretty good, too. Made some big close calls and doesn’t allow ticky tack game-changer PI’s.
Boger was the WORST, but I think he retired. Still, they should have never let him anywhere NEAR a Super Bowl.
If you really like the Chiefs to win, this seems like a no brainer
Last time these two teams played in the Super Bowl was the month before the pandemic blew up
This time is right when America is about to probably go to war with Iran
Mebbe for the good of humanity no more chefs Niners super bowls
It was also an election year. If you believe in omens, bet the farm on SuperEbola in 2024
This thread if...
the Chiefs win: massive circlejerk about how awful Pudy is. this is the Purdy hater Super Bowl, New Years and bar mitzvah all rolled into one.
the 49ers win: radio silence on Purdy and they don't really want to talk about the game at all, but an excellent discussion on the draft takes place
Spoiler
Rewatched LIV. Bosa is such a chud. Here he is to Mitch Schwartz after the Mahomes' 2nd INT.
How'd that end up Nick?
This thread if...
the Chiefs win: massive circlejerk about how awful Pudy is. this is the Purdy hater Super Bowl, New Years and bar mitzvah all rolled into one.
the 49ers win: radio silence on Purdy and they don't really want to talk about the game at all, but an excellent discussion on the draft takes place
Spoiler
You're just always half wrong and/or misinterpreting gameday LOLs as serious commentary. Second scenario doesn't happen. Ever. Idk man, you're borderline going full Dom here.
Never go full Dom.
This thread if...
the Chiefs win: massive circlejerk about how awful Pudy is. this is the Purdy hater Super Bowl, New Years and bar mitzvah all rolled into one.
the 49ers win: radio silence on Purdy and they don't really want to talk about the game at all, but an excellent discussion on the draft takes place
Spoiler
The internet is a pretty big place. I'm pretty sure there's somebody outside of 2+2 interested in talking to you about Brock. No matter the result of the game.
Anyone who is interested, a $250 SB squares in OOT where each time someone scores there is a winner and only final score matters otherwise needs some runners.
You're just always half wrong and/or misinterpreting gameday LOLs as serious commentary. Second scenario doesn't happen. Ever. Idk man, you're borderline going full Dom here.
Never go full Dom.
Everybody piling in Purdy in the few days between the Ravens game and the Commanders game, saying the same thing as the ESPN idiots, was just joking.
Bold play. I respect it. We both know that's not accurate but well played
If you're gonna be a hater be a hater.
Don't be a coward and pretend you're not a hater until it feels safe.
You haters are gonna feel very safe if he loses the Super Bowl. And that was exactly my point. But now you pretend you're not even haters. If he wins, you'll pretend you're not a hater. You sit there cowardly hoping he loses so you can hate at the top of your lungs.
There is a scenario where Purdy plays well and SF still loses.
If you're gonna be a hater be a hater.
Don't be a coward and pretend you're not a hater until it feels safe.
You haters are gonna feel very safe if he loses the Super Bowl. And that was exactly my point. But now you pretend you're not even haters. If he wins, you'll pretend you're not a hater. You sit there cowardly hoping he loses so you can hate at the top of your lungs.
You might take this whole thing just a tiny bit too seriously.
"see, told you, this guy is trash. Last pick in the draft and all he did in his 2nd year is be top 5 in MVP voting and take his team to the Super Bowl"
That's the argument you haters are hoping to be able to make.
Everyone can make whichever argument they want. If someone decides to mock Purdy in case he has a bad game without being interested in talking about him if he had a good game, that's their prerogative.
It's also nobody else's problem but yours if you're bothered by that.
Either he has a good game or a bad game. It's 50/50.
Seriously this.
Everyone can make whichever argument they want. If someone decides to mock Purdy in case he has a bad game without being interested in talking about him if he had a good game, that's their prerogative.
It's also nobody else's problem but yours if you're bothered by that.
I don't even remember anyone really hating on Purdy that much on 2p2. Most people think his story is pretty cool and yes we ridiculed him and made jokes about his multi-INT game vs the Ravens.. but we all knew that game was a bit of anomaly. So take a giant chill pill ethbtc. If you continue to blatantly troll then you will face consequences.
We all know he isn't perfect or even de facto "great". The verdict is still out on how good exactly Purdy is, as his career is still just starting. We all know he has excellent weapons around him. But when push came to shove recently he's played well enough to get the job done. Pressure makes diamonds and Purdy is shining right now as he enters his first (of possibly many) Super Bowl.
I don't even remember anyone really hating on Purdy that much on 2p2. Most people think his story is pretty cool and yes we ridiculed him and made jokes about his multi-INT game vs the Ravens..
Like everyone made jokes after Josh Allen's game against the Jets or when Machines throws a terrible INT?
Why would anyone even really hate on Brock Purdy or any other NFL player unless they do Aaron Rodgers style stuff? Even messing up to the level of Kadarius Toney shouldn't result in anything on a personal level.
It just takes the fun out if people get super sensitive and take everything personal. That's how I picture 13 year olds on a Taylor Swift fan forum when somebody says "Bad Blood" sucks (sorry, that's the only song title I know)
