The costs of trans visibility
Yesterday, Dylan Mulvaney broke her silence: https://www.tiktok.com/@dylanmulvaney/vi....
For context, this is a trans influencer who built a 10 million strong following on TikTok. She took a brand deal with budweiser to post an ad on an instagram, and the anti-trans right went absolutely ballistic, calling for a boycott, condemning the company, and to some perhaps unknowable degree it influenced that Budweiser sales dropped by a 1/4 and
. Dylan speaks more personally about the effect of the hatred on her.
What strikes me about this story is that it is just about visibility. This isn't inclusion in sports or gender-affirming care for minors, it was just that a trans person was visible. This wasn't even visibility in a TV commerical that a poor right-winger is forced to see, it was an ad on her own instagram page. We're all in our own social media algorithm influenced bubbles, but from my vantage point it really has seemed that in the last year or so things have just gotten worse for trans people and the backlash to even minor visibility is growing.
We need to do better.
So teachers find these awkward gays kids and magically make them transgender? How do these teachers benefit from this?
it's not "making them trans", it's making them live as trans. It's conversion therapy, it can't change nature but it can inflict a ton of damage.
Radical christians can "convert" homosexuals (usually temporarily), especially if they target mentally weak ones, and make them live "as heterosexuals" including having sex with opposite sex people right? or that never happens? it does happen and is horrifying and minor abuse when done to minors, why do you imagine it can't happen on the opposite side?
Except when it's an homosexual temporarily convinced he is trans it's even worse because of medicalization with permanent effects.
How do radical christians benefit from conversion therapy? they feel they are fulfulling their moral duty. They think they are the good people saving the kids. Same for the teachers "affirming trans youth". It's religion, not personal financial benefit, for the troops. It's financial and politics for the leaders of the groups as usual.
Radical christians can "convert" homosexuals (usually temporarily), especially if they target mentally weak ones, and make them live "as heterosexuals" including having sex with opposite sex people right? or that never happens?
No, that doesn't actually happen. Gay conversion therapy doesn't actually work, you can't make someone straight by praying at them.
How do radical christians benefit from conversion therapy? they feel they are fulfulling their moral duty. They think they are the good people saving the kids. Same for the teachers "affirming trans youth". It's religion, not personal financial benefit, for the troops. It's financial and politics for the leaders of the groups as usual.
So, no tangible benefit for teachers then? They just turn kids trans for funsies?
funsies? for their religious belief, people can make the most absurd things out of religious beliefs, even to their kids, think infibulation
What religious beliefs? These are regular-ass teachers, how on earth do they benefit from magically turning kids trans? Why would they ever care?
It doesn't change their nature, their preferences, but it can change behaviour for a long while, including sexual behaviour
It cannot and does not. Conversion therapy is fantasy nonsense invented by loopy fundamentalists.
It cannot and does not. Conversion therapy is fantasy nonsense invented by loopy fundamentalists.
Can you read? it's nonsense to believe you can change human nature (but please remind this is true for all inheritable traits) but if you psychologically torture people enough they behave very differently from their own nature, at least until you stop the torture.
It's always bizarre to me when people characterize being accepting and inclusive of trans people as some bizarre religious practice. Guys, the big ask here is basically the same kind of morality story you put in a book for young kids about being kind to people who are different from you.
It's always bizarre to me when people characterize being accepting and inclusive of trans people as some bizarre religious practice. Guys, the big ask here is basically the same kind of morality story you put in a book for young kids about being kind to people who are different from you.
No man, not at all, it's not about being kind, it's about allowing irreversible medical procedures to pre puberal minors or not
No man, not at all, it's not about being kind, it's about allowing irreversible medical procedures to pre puberal minors or not
We're you talking about these pseudo-religious teachers? Last time I checked, teachers and medical doctors aren't the same thing. Not that accurately captures what is happening with doctors either.
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these are the actual numbers.
So there has been a rise in lgbtq identification but most of it is bisexuals. The majority of young lgbt people in america are not gay, lesbian, and certainly not trans. Rather most of that increase is rising acceptance allowing people who are mostly straight to feel comfortable expressing some emotional or physical attraction to members of the same sex, ie bisexuality.
How do you look at figures that claim a third of adults are going against millions of years of evolutionary biological pressure from all species who came before and think, "Yep, that's about right." Does Gen Alpha follow the trend and get us to 50%?
Unless you include people who will freely admit that a member of the same sex is objectively attractive. You'd have to be brain damaged to not acknowledge that Bradley Cooper and Chris Hemsworth are good looking dudes. Has my entire life been a lie?
Will nobody think of the children...
Spoiler
... who aren't going to exist because we suddenly have more than half of the population pairing up into couples that can't procreate?
Western civilization is about to progress itself right out of existence. Warlords in Africa and Middle-Eastern dictators can't believe their luck.
Ins0 going full Great Replacement Theory ITT.
It’s amazing how much victim blaming is going on here. Even in the most tolerant lgbtq generation ever 72% are straight and another 15% are bisexual. Most bisexuals don’t end up with a same sex partner. Many end up in heterosexual marriages and very rarely same sex ones. So even in gen z, 90% of people are straight or bisexual or questioning types. The kinsey reports actually found a higher percentage of bisexuals about 100 years ago, and a
Do you really think that young males who have never had a homosexual experience are answering those questions with Bisexual? I wouldn't expect that, but if so it would be some evidence for the increased popularity / perceived benefits of being considered as having an alternate sexual identity.
Although I don't consider it to be a problem, if you went down the streets of Portland you would likely be surprised about how many people you see who are trans (and of course there are many more who you wouldn't easily notice).
How do you look at figures that claim a third of adults are going against millions of years of evolutionary biological pressure from all species who came before and think, "Yep, that's about right." Does Gen Alpha follow the trend and get us to 50%?
Unless you include people who will freely admit that a member of the same sex is objectively attractive. You'd have to be brain damaged to not acknowledge that Bradley Cooper and Chris Hemswort
Nah liberals are self selecting themselves out of the gene pool.
The rest of us has children. We should just ask ti accelerate the inevitable given their choices.
Perhaps it's time to remove the right to vote for any over 40 non sterile adult who didn't have children
Not replacement, just memetic suicide.
Any group that can convince it's members not to reproduce because of any reason will disappear, because all political attitudes are inheritable.
If leftists don't have children because "the climate crisis" there will be fewer leftists in the future.
Which is why I have hope for humanity
Not replacement, just memetic suicide.
Any group that can convince it's members not to reproduce because of any reason will disappear, because all political attitudes are inheritable.
If leftists don't have children because "the climate crisis" there will be fewer leftists in the future.
Which is why I have hope for humanity
You mean inheritable the way children almost always adopt the religion of their parent or are you saying there is a political attitude gene in their dna?
Do you really think that young males who have never had a homosexual experience are answering those questions with Bisexual? I wouldn't expect that, but if so it would be some evidence for the increased popularity / perceived benefits of being considered as having an alternate sexual identity.
I don’t know where you got that I think bisexuals are not having gay sex. Certainly some aren’t but whether they are or aren’t is pretty irrelevant. To learn more you can read about bisexuals in any number of books or ask one of your bisexual friends, which believe me there are a lot of in Portland.
What I am saying is that most bisexuals tend to end up in straight relationships, especially in the past, for reasons that should be obvious. If it’s not obvious, you could just ask some bisexuals or read a book about being bi.
How do you look at figures that claim a third of adults are going against millions of years of evolutionary biological pressure from all species who came before and think, "Yep, that's about right." Does Gen Alpha follow the trend and get us to 50%?
Unless you include people who will freely admit that a member of the same sex is objectively attractive. You'd have to be brain damaged to not acknowledge that Bradley Cooper and Chris Hemswort
I think the gen z percentages have always been true, it’s just more open now. Therefore , western countries will continue on as normal except with slightly less problems.
Fertility rate on the whole doesn’t decrease just because some people have same sex relationships. There is no evidence of that.
