Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

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Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

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07 October 2023 at 09:33 PM
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Experts are ignoring sample size. We always have a high friendly fire rate. Lets see what vietnams was


In fact, the official friendly fire casualty rate is pegged at 17% for Desert Storm: 613 battle casualties, 146 killed or died of wounds, 467 wounded. Of the 146 killed, 35 were fratricide, and of 467 wounded, 72 were caused by Coalition forces—depressing to consider.

https://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedin...


It’s estimated that there may be as many as 8,000 friendly fire incidents in the Vietnam War caused by mistakes, negligence, exhaustion, panic, horseplay, dim lighting, dense vegetation, inattentiveness, faulty equipment, poor training, foolishness, ill fortune or some combination of the above. There doesn’t appear to be any agreement of a firm percentage attributed to FF during the war, I’ve seen estimates ranging from 2.4% – 39% of all combined casualties

https://cherrieswriter.com/2018/04/10/fr...


by PointlessWords P

professional armies are obliterated almost immediately and guerilla warfare is the only way to resist. the DoD has many books on this. You are mistaken if you think Americans would fight any differently. We didn't during our war of independence and we wouldn't now.

The Ukrainian army hasn't been obliterated by the russian army, and Ukraine didn't use ukrianian civilians as human shields.


by Luciom P

The Ukrainian army hasn't been obliterated by the russian army, and Ukraine didn't use ukrianian civilians as human shields.


they kinda did.


by Luciom P

The Ukrainian army hasn't been obliterated by the russian army, and Ukraine didn't use ukrianian civilians as human shields.

Other countries weren't using Ukrainians as pawns and gave them refuge


by microbet P

Hamas fighters have been somewhat more successful at killing Israeli soldiers than Israeli soldiers have, but not by a lot.

https://www.npr.org/2024/01/26/122697736...

But this is mainly because Hamas isn't killing a lot of Israeli soldiers and Israel is bombing all over the place.

these are the numbers from Qassam. take it fwiw.

not sure if that includes other resistance orgs like PIJ, PFLP, al Aqsa etc.

Hezballoh has their own numbers too which are pretty devastating.


by Luciom P

The Ukrainian army hasn't been obliterated by the russian army, and Ukraine didn't use ukrianian civilians as human shields.

Without nato which is like 80% USA then Ukraine would be under Russian control by now.




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by metsandfinsfan P

and i only see the posts that are quoted

can we stop quoting him so much? i don't get the point at all

I think the point might be that you’re not the center of everyone’s world so we’re all just quoting and talking like normal without even thinking oh no what if mets has to read something he doesn’t like


you know he clicks the unhide button anyway


by Victor P

these are the numbers from Qassam. take it fwiw.

not sure if that includes other resistance orgs like PIJ, PFLP, al Aqsa etc.

Hezballoh has their own numbers too which are pretty devastating.

There is no way in hell anything like 962 tanks have been destroyed.


To be fair, the ignore function here is ****. Never seen another forum software that doesn't auto-hide when someone on ignore gets quoted.


by rafiki P

And even WORSE, they're an army who is not afraid to die, which is a terrifying prospect to face in battle. It's why the Vikings were so hard to defeat. When you genuinely believe that paradise awaits after your sacrifice, you are truly formidable in battle.

So, just like every armed force in history.


We are finally conditioned for wartime when the conversation switches to my army can kick your army's ass.


by Victor P

is Yossi Landau, the guy who claimed 40 beheaded babies and other proven false claims a credible witness?

Are the actual eyewitness survivors who stated they witnessed rapes by Hamas members lying?


by Crossnerd P

Also just for the record, I don’t believe anyone in here cares terribly about women being raped during war. It’s just a gotcha point used whenever it suits people. This thread has been an excellent example.

Wow. It must be because the majority of posters are male huh? Really sorry you feel that way about us.


Scorch was always my most prized army men toy.


by Victor P

It's already been debunked by a Jewish women. But I guess not a real Jew amirite.

https://twitter.com/AdiCallai/status/176...

Lmao.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sodomites-Adi-C...

Here is a story of a group that sees resistance to Israeli apartheid and to environmental degradation as one and the sam


by corpus vile P

Are the actual eyewitness survivors who stated they witnessed rapes by Hamas members lying?

the ones I read. maybe there is a credible witness out there.


by PointlessWords P

professional armies are obliterated almost immediately and guerilla warfare is the only way to resist. the DoD has many books on this. You are mistaken if you think Americans would fight any differently. We didn't during our war of independence and we wouldn't now.

The rebels fielded conventional infantry during the War of Independence. Incidentally, you do know that more Americans fought on the Crown side than the rebel side during that war, right? And you do know that most of them were black? For the obvious reason that the rebels were led by slaving magnates? I mean you do know that, right?


by Bill Haywood P

I don't get the criticism of UNRWA. It has thousands of employees. Of course some were Hamas. They need day jobs.

Is there any suggestion that UNRWA has taken policy steps to aid Hamas? I've yet to hear of any. Did Hamas members affect a decision?

I think the Israelis are just trying to starve Gazans.

It appears to be working


by PointlessWords P

Do you believe other posters said these things or are you lying or are you being delusional. Because these things were not uttered by anyone in this thread, besides you

It’s a character flaw


by corpus vile P

Wow. It must be because the majority of posters are male huh? Really sorry you feel that way about us.

So are the rapists


by Trolly McTrollson P

So, just like every armed force in history.

Trolly this leads me to believe your history knowledge isn't great.

You think the typical western soldier is eager to sacrifice his mortal body to his God? And doesn't mind leaving behind a family?


by Crossnerd P

So are the rapists

Maybe you need to differentiate between rapists and men in general.


by rafiki P

Trolly this leads me to believe your history knowledge isn't great.

You think the typical western soldier is eager to sacrifice his mortal body to his God? And doesn't mind leaving behind a family?

More like the elite Iraqi Republican Guard from The Gulf War. Do you remember that?


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