The costs of trans visibility
Yesterday, Dylan Mulvaney broke her silence: https://www.tiktok.com/@dylanmulvaney/vi....
For context, this is a trans influencer who built a 10 million strong following on TikTok. She took a brand deal with budweiser to post an ad on an instagram, and the anti-trans right went absolutely ballistic, calling for a boycott, condemning the company, and to some perhaps unknowable degree it influenced that Budweiser sales dropped by a 1/4 and
. Dylan speaks more personally about the effect of the hatred on her.
What strikes me about this story is that it is just about visibility. This isn't inclusion in sports or gender-affirming care for minors, it was just that a trans person was visible. This wasn't even visibility in a TV commerical that a poor right-winger is forced to see, it was an ad on her own instagram page. We're all in our own social media algorithm influenced bubbles, but from my vantage point it really has seemed that in the last year or so things have just gotten worse for trans people and the backlash to even minor visibility is growing.
We need to do better.
Because i never read in this thread that blacks are transphobe , while i read claims that republicans and rightwing people are several times.
I never read in this thread that blacks are responsible for trans suicide rate because many of them deny gender theory , while i read several times that republicans and rightwing people in general are responsible for those suicides.
I ask why , do you know why?
Black people only represent like 12% of the population so if they are denying gender at marginally higher rates than whites, the overall impact will still be a lot less.
Hmmmm, things get even more complicated (including the possibility police is lying ofc)
https://abcnews.go.com/US/oklahoma-death...
On Wednesday, Owasso Police shared an update on the ongoing investigation and noted that a complete autopsy was performed on the student by the medical examiner. Police said the autopsy did not indicate that the student died as a result of trauma.
Hmmmm, things get even more complicated (including the possibility police is lying ofc)
https://abcnews.go.com/US/oklahoma-death...
On Wednesday, Owasso Police shared an update on the ongoing investigation and noted that a complete autopsy was performed on the student by the medical examiner. Police said the autopsy did not indicate that the student died as a result of trauma.
added as well
The student's mother, Sue Benedict, told the news outlet that Nex and another student had gotten in a fight with three older girls in the bathroom. It is not yet clear if their gender identities had a role in the altercation.
Because i never read in this thread that blacks are transphobe , while i read claims that republicans and rightwing people are several times.
I never read in this thread that blacks are responsible for trans suicide rate because many of them deny gender theory , while i read several times that republicans and rightwing people in general are responsible for those suicides.
I ask why , do you know why?
You're confused as to why you see mention of people's political leanings and not their race in a discussion about a political issue?
You're confused as to why you see mention of people's political leanings and not their race in a discussion about a political issue?
Given there are republicans who believe in gender theory (not many, but 14% seld defined ones apparently do), it's about groups and political issues.
Believing in gender theory evidently is a political issue, and usually blacks tend to share leftwing political preferences (in the USA).
But here you have a massive position against leftwing political preferences by one of the groups that vote left more than most.
And there is radio silence about it because it's very embarrassing for leftwing people.
They somehow manage to insult right-wing people for being against gender theory but they don't realize they are insulting 70% of blacks at the same time when they do.
This is possibly the political issue in the USA where the left represents blacks the less, and you think that's not worth mentioning or discussing?
he's not wrong, if it were a kyle rittenhouse type who did it then that person would be at the forefront of coverage
Luciom, you might be putting too much on the line by pushing this "it was probably a group of 3 black girls, which is why we haven't been told yet" angle.
Less than 5% of the student population of that high school is black. The odds are not in your favor.
You don't get to talk, Mr. Girlwasbeatentodeathinthebathroom.
Luciom, you might be putting too much on the line by pushing this "it was probably a group of 3 black girls, which is why we haven't been told yet" angle.
Less than 5% of the student population of that high school is black. The odds are not in your favor.
This.
Before anyone else jumps on your racist theory, other than resident rickroll, it is common in the US to not disclose juvenile criminals names in the paper.
The tox screen will tell more but it sounds like a missed cranial bleed was not the cause of death from what was stated about the preliminary autopsy report.
Luciom, you might be putting too much on the line by pushing this "it was probably a group of 3 black girls, which is why we haven't been told yet" angle.
Less than 5% of the student population of that high school is black. The odds are not in your favor.
I haven't written black girls anywhere, I wrote probably minority because of the media narrative basic theory of race.
That blacks are against gender theory more than whites is something I didn't know (and which surprised me very positively) and I discovered when checking the claim by Bryce that his take is moderate.
This.
Before anyone else jumps on your racist theory, other than resident rickroll, it is common in the US to not disclose juvenile criminals names in the paper. The tox screen will tell more but it sounds like a missed cranial bleed was not the cause of death from what was stated about the preliminary autopsy report.
There is no racist theory unless you mean my theory is that a ton of journalists are racist against whites, so everytime they can talk about a white individual doing bad things they focus on race, everytime a suspect isn't white they don't mention race unless they have to
it's also interesting that the reports largely leave out that we do know a lot of details
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_N...
Death
According to Benedict, they and their friends had been bullied at Owasso High School before the incident. As retaliation, while in the bathroom of their assigned sex per Oklahoma law, they poured water on three girls who had bullied them,[6] which led to Benedict being reportedly assaulted by the three girls. During the assault, Benedict sustained severe head injuries after being knocked to the ground and having their head repeatedly slammed into the floor.[7] They were found covered in facial bruises near their eyes, and had scratches on the back of their head.[5][8][9]
Per school officials, the students involved were in the bathroom for less than two minutes and the "physical altercation" was broken up by other students that were present in the restroom and a staff member who was supervising outside of the restroom.[10] By the school officials' account, all students walked under their own power to the nurse and then to the assistant principal's office after the fight, where they were given a health assessment, gave statements, and contacted their parents. While Benedict was not identified as the student, officials stated that they advised one student's parent to take them to a medical facility for further examination.[11]
According to Benedict's grandmother, Sue Benedict, who had raised Benedict since they were two months old and adopted them in 2022,[4] the school did not call an ambulance or the police, and instead ordered Benedict suspended for two weeks.[5] Sue took Benedict to a nearby hospital for treatment,[5] where she summoned the Owasso Police Department at around 3:30 p.m (CT).[1] Benedict was discharged later that day, and reportedly went to sleep with a sore head.[5]
The following day, on February 8, as they were preparing to travel with their grandmother for an appointment, Benedict collapsed in the family's living room. An ambulance was called, and Benedict had stopped breathing by the time EMTs arrived.[5] Benedict was declared dead at the hospital that evening.[5]
Before anyone else jumps on your racist theory, other than resident rickroll, it is common in the US to not disclose juvenile criminals names in the paper.
Don't get too excited. If this had been a black girl dead a few days after a fight with white students, you'd absolutely know the race of the attackers even if they didn't provide names.
He may still be correct, but that wouldn't be remembered by the locals here. If he's wrong, someone is going to bring it up in future, unrelated threads as a proxy attack on whatever he'll say there. Much risk, no reward.
it's also interesting that the reports largely leave out that we do know a lot of details
I noticed this in reading the news articles, too, but I can't help but think how irritated these authors probably are by needing to avoid gendered pronouns. It makes things more difficult to read, and you end up needing to substitute he/she/his/her with proper names way more frequently than you're used to seeing. They and their are being asked to do far too much work, given those are typically read as plurals.
Bring back the xes and xems or something instead of stealing they and them.
uh singular they is used all the time when the gender isn't known like "Inso0 went to his doctor. They told him he had forumposteritis". Here Inso0's gender is guessed at, but I have no clue what gender your doctor is.
uh singular they is used all the time when the gender isn't known like "Inso0 went to his doctor. They told him he had forumposteritis". Here Inso0's gender is guessed at, but I have no clue what gender your doctor is.
From someone that is grammatically challenged should it not be "it" instead of they/them
I noticed this in reading the news articles, too, but I can't help but think how irritated these authors probably are by needing to avoid gendered pronouns. It makes things more difficult to read, and you end up needing to substitute he/she/his/her with proper names way more frequently than you're used to seeing. They and their are being asked to do far too much work, given those are typically read as plurals.
Bring back the xes and xems o
crazy part is the parents felt the need to apologize because they were attacked for "misgendering and deadnaming" their daughter
uh singular they is used all the time when the gender isn't known like "Inso0 went to his doctor. They told him he had forumposteritis". Here Inso0's gender is guessed at, but I have no clue what gender your doctor is.
This is technically correct, but also not nearly as jarring because the doctor isn't the main character of the story and won't be referenced a bunch of times. In cases where a character does need to be referenced often, authors will try to find out to avoid the cumbersome prose.
You know exactly what I mean, but you're too covered in ally stickers to acknowledge that it's weird.
Edit: To illustrate:
"Inso0 went to their doctor. They told them they had forumposteritis"
What a cluster****.
she was actually looking like a girl, but in guy clothing I thought.
if they are using "they" are they using "we" ?? no they dont.
which is inconsistent.
so this fight by 3 black students or not and one gender fluid, I doubt it was 3 black students btw. I think it was 2 whites and one hispanic is the end result of a long lasting feud between pridefull victimizers, who are the psychopathic far left and their gender madness who produced yet another victim here, actually.
Don't get too excited. If this had been a black girl dead a few days after a fight with white students, you'd absolutely know the race of the attackers even if they didn't provide names.
He may still be correct, but that wouldn't be remembered by the locals here. If he's wrong, someone is going to bring it up in future, unrelated threads as a proxy attack on whatever he'll say there. Much risk, no reward.
Or he could be wrong and build his racial theory on an incorrect guess about the race of the parties, as Dunyan and Losern are prone to do.
Then, after the facts come out, do the typical Lodern walk back to "I should get to be wrong because other media people were wrong too!"
Or he could wait to speculate on that part until more facts are known.
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so this fight by 3 black students or not and one gender fluid, I doubt it was 3 black students btw. I think it was 2 whites and one hispanic is the end result of a long lasting feud between pridefull victimizers....
See how dumb it sounds when you guess race and then presume motive.
And then you get upset that people say it makes you sound racist.
Corpus, this isn’t the case. People who take the conservative side(to put it mildly) on issues like these like to imagine they speak for a much wider audience than they do. If you actually read my posts in a reasonably unbiased manner , you’d see I’ve taken a moderate position.
The truth is americans favor those who stand up to bullies. Ron de Santis built his whole campaign around demonizing trans children and it collaps
You may feel your position is moderate but when you make use of such rhetoric, you don't come across as such, even if you believe you are and think you do. Such terms will alienate the majority of people.
Or he could be wrong and build his racial theory on an incorrect guess about the race of the parties, as Dunyan and Losern are prone to do.
Then, after the facts come out, do the typical Lodern walk back to "I should get to be wrong because other media people were wrong too!"
Or he could wait to speculate on that part until more facts are known.
Please show me one instance were I have made a assumption on the race of the individual. I made an assumption on gender and owned up to it. I do not see Trolly owning up to the fact he looks to be wrong on his statement which he never will do nor will Uke or Bobo call him out on it
