Moderation Questions and General Chat Thread

Quote the entire post. But before we address that, post the quote from me stating that posts like yours about trolly are ok. You keep dodging that.

you should not be a mod, you've lost objectivity, you take everything personally, you dish out insults to others and hide behind "context" while freely banning others willy nilly for doing the same

this is shameful behavior

And yet again no quote of mine you claim ok'd your post about trolly.

We've been down this road before. If you believe what you just posted then by all means you should lay out your case to the powers that be in the ATF forum and get me removed.

you quite plainly stated that indirect insults were fine, hence why nobody was getting banned for insulting indirectly in the trans thread - when i brought forth specific examples you found nothign wrong with them thereby establishing precedent

you're even doing it yourself now, the only inconsistent part is where you selectively choose when i do it to be problematic

you haven't noticed a disturbing trend of how many different people you've had to say this to recently? this isn't a massive red flag to you that you're overstepping and doing a terrible job in general?

So post the quote.

Then it should be super easy to present the actual evidence of my overstepping to TPTB in the ATF. I'm looking forward to reading how you explain to them that your comment about trolly shouldnt even have warranted the warning you received. Likewise Im interested in seeing the case laid out for being allowed to call people racist, transphobic, etc, as well as for calling every transgender person mentally ill. And how none of that violates the "attack the argument not the person" rule. And how being able to post these things will improve the forum and enhance the feeling of community.

I have no doubt you and the others will make compelling cases that none of your posts violated any forum rules and therefore you did not deserve the warnings or temp bans you received. You will be able to clearly show how I just banned people for no violations at all, that Ive banned all completely guiltless people.

I think it's time we move past the tired old do loop of every time a poster gets a ban I get accused of enforcing rules of my own rather than sitewide rules. The only people who can resolve this issue are higher up management and owners. (Thank goodness they are my brothers in law ) They must either determine that I am doing a poor job of modding under their policies and remove me, change the policies, or tell me to keep doing what Im doing. All this wailing and gnashing of teeth isnt going to change anything.

The solution to that is to redraw your somewhat arbitrary line at the point of breach of T&C and what's illegal or obvious spam.

For heaven's sake man, most people here are middle aged people filling in time by arguing and joking with each other. The future of civilisation doe not depend on the content of posts here.

You should learn to recognise when you're losing the dressing room.

He didn't deserve to be banned in this instance. I rarely interact with you and almost never whinge at you or give you grief, but you're taking the piss with this. He really didn't deserve a ban on this and I really hope you reconsider and rescind the ban. Be reasonable here.

Obviously I disagree with your assessment but as I have in the past I am always willing to relook a decision should the situation warrant it. Unfortunately any option of reducing the ban disappeared when he decided to post and contact me by pm, using an alternative account to insult me again. Though I did only permaban his alt account and not his main account as is the site policy for those who bypass temp bans using alt accounts.

again you are wrong. when d2 comes back he will admit hes been pushing the envelope. how much you wanna bet?
give me 10 to 1 and I bet you 50 dollars. (I want 500 if I win)
are you game?

Just so Im clear on your suggestion, are you saying I should disregard the sitewide rules approved by the new owners and only address things that violate the legal T&C page which is a different document? Or are you using the term T&C to include the site rules?

Bunch of whiners here complaining about a mod who doesn't get paid

Move on

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All this back and forth is really making me wish that I had stayed on as an active mod. 🙄

Are people really this personally invested in whether this forum is moderated exactly to their personal satisfaction?

Just do the minimum you have to and enjoy the extra time you have for yourself and your family.

Life is too short to spend much of it arguing about whether to ban someone for a day, three days or a week for posting something daft.

I think we're invested in the moderation thread as much as we are any other thread. To be fair maybe a little more because I couldn't just offer 10k to Putin to end the invasion but probably could get bowser to go away for half that. But I don't think anyone is invested beyond making posts on the internet.

Mountains and molehills. What a combination.

Every case is different and in order to properly assess a ban you have to take into account a poster's history/user notes so an inherent amount of subjectivity is involved.

I don't really care about the bans personally as long as he isn't Perma banning any regulars-- but Victor's two weeks for saying people have bloodlust was definitely excessive.

Lighten up, Browser. The guy was obviously joking and nobody would ever seriously think that remark was meant to be serious.

Where did you get the idea victor was banned for saying people had bloodlust?

Yes, instead of making posts that don't matter about moderation we should be making posts that don't matter about major world events! It's disingenuous to pretend like it's suddenly insignificant to post on the internet if the topic us unimportant when every post in the history of this sub is insignificant whether it was about moderation or major world events.

I expect people that have been apart of this forum for a long time don't want to see the forum die. As somebody that has been active here for twenty years, I think you know that.

From reading the thread of course.

*Or I suppose what he actually said was that people were happy babies were dying but it's the same thing. Afaict babies still have blood.

It wasnt the idea that I should get laid that was the issue. It's referencing sex trafficked people as a part of a joke that is particularly offensive.

You could simply read the post I made in the thread that specifically stated what his ban was for rather than supposing and paraphrasing. Then, if you still think it was inappropriate that's fine.