ex-President Trump

Looks like it rustled a few jimmies

Former Trump aide sounds alarm, reveals why she’ll vote for Biden.

Everyone who actually worked with Trump says
he isn't fit to be president. Take the hint Republicans.

The horse has left the barn. There's zero chance they're changing at this point unless court decisions force them to. And if all they care about now is winning the upcoming election, it probably wouldn't be smart to make the change at this point even if it was feasible.

I disagree with this. I think the Republicans would be more likely to win with Haley or another candidate.
Haley vs Biden is polling higher now than Trump vs Biden.

Now? Unlikely, IMO. It could only happen through an ugly process that will divide the party, and I suspect they'd lose more voters than they'd pick up.

I believe a major portion of the Republican Party has gone far enough to what many see as a dark place that a Trump removal wouldn't be enough to win them back. And then when you topple Trump, there will be enough people who stay home or follow Trump in an independent campaign to outweigh the Republican supporters ready to go back the first moment Trump is gone.

Unless you think there could be a sudden amazing surge that sees Haley win "Super Tuesday", just 9 days from now. But what's required at this point IMO, would be for Haley to beat him in the primaries, AND Trump to not run as an independent/third party candidate, AND for Trump to encourage his supporters to go out and vote. A highly, highly, unlikely trifecta IMO.

I'm not saying I think it's going to happen, just that if it did I think it would be better for the Republicans' chance of winning. I was really only disagreeing with the last part of your post, guess I should have made that clear.

Probably will only happen if Trump dies, has a major medical issue, or is convicted of something very serious.

Criminal Charges Against Trump PAC Announced.

Eastman stands there and says,
“We politicians can VOTE to say that something-or-other
illegal happened, and create that illegality just by asserting it.”
And they clap like seals!

Like what, shooting someone on 5th Ave? ��

These are great days we're livin, bros!

I understood that, and that's what I was attempting to respond to. But I did also wander a bit off-topic into the likelihoods. 😊

Right, I alluded to this when I said "There's zero chance they're changing at this point unless court decisions force them to." But I can see now I didn't clearly express what I was thinking. They can't force the issue at this point. If there is a serious conviction, if he has a medical condition, or he dies, then they have no choice. But if they aren't compelled to put forward someone else because of one of those circumstances, then I think they're committed now, for the reasons I outlined.

Trump’s takeover of the RNC will destroy it from within.

Donald Trump is the ultimate RINO — a “Republican in Name Only.”

As president, Trump abandoned free trade.
He cozied up to brutal authoritarian leaders.
He racked up huge deficits and embraced reckless spending.

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Agreed, for now Haley is the de facto backup plan. As long as donors are giving Haley money, she might as well stay in the race to see if some non-zero catastrophe happens to Trump. But, number one, Haley's recent loss in her home state has groups like the wealthy Koch network no longer spending money on her campaign. And number two, the moment Trump picks a vice presidential running mate, then that person becomes the de facto backup plan. But for now in a two person race Haley might as well stay around, especially if she is spending other people's money instead of her own. Also, there are a few conspiracy threads and posts throughout the "Politics and Society" tab. My tin foil hat leap is that Haley might as well stay in the race because Trump might get himself assassinated or some crap with all of his pull out of NATO talk.

I get 800 billion texts from nikki haley, basically because I think she is a good person and Trump and de santis are not, so I donated some money to her once

here are recent texts; I don’t think they sound great from a winning chance perspective 😀

In my experience, these sorts of fundraising texts often claim that the sky is falling. In this case, it actually is for her campaign.

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I get 800 billion texts from nikki haley, basically because I think she is a good person and Trump and de santis are not, so I donated some money to her once

here are recent texts; I don’t think they sound great from a winning chance perspective 😀

She needs some delegates in case Trump is convicted exhausting appeals or gets sick or whatever, this is one very rare case of a campagin not lying lol

I think it’s fair to say anything until march5th when a number of delegates come in. Still it should be obvious by now it’s Trump vs Biden barring major outliers. These outliers are extreme enough to where it’s probably better for the discussion if people assume trump vs biden.

Agreed. One is -1200 to win the nomination and the other is -200... somehow the one people are trying to get removed from being on the ballot and has state after state trying to sue him is the one that is -1200. Why do we think biden is only -200? You would think with no real bench to speak of for dems (newsom, michelle & beshear) that he would be closer to trump's -1200 even despite his cognitive decline and extremely poor approval rating.

Every time he makes an appearance lately, cognitive and physical problems look worse to normal eyes, the decline is happening really fast so that's probably what causes those odds.

I agree and will likely bet on biden at some point. I disagree slightly in regards to cognitive decline, while I agree Joe isn’t at his peak I don’t think his cognitive decline is an issue or very big.

People mistake his speech impediment as cognitive decline quite often.

Of course they also just flat out make crap up about him (like the shaking hands with a ghost thing).

I don't think you consider all other democrats worse choices for president tbh.

It might be (currently, in the exact state he is) the most electable choice yet (or not, given many people in this forum seem not to believe polls about other democrats v trump for potus, maybe they have a point) but truly i don't think anyone on the left could claim among democrats he is the single best individual available nationwide to be potus.

unless you can wagers thousands on it, those numbers don't mean much

Trump got his own wife’s name wron...

The debates should be fun. It'll be like Rocky II, where both Rocky and Apollo go down and whoever gets up first wins but in this case it'll be whichever can remember what date the election is on.

EDIT: It's claimed Trump was actually referring to Mercedes Schlapp, his former White House director of strategic communications.

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