Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

Think this merits its own thread...

Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

AM YISRAEL CHAI.


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07 October 2023 at 09:33 PM
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Your side would get genocided cause you would encourage your women not to procreate


by gs3737 P

lol this means nothing.

The UN are such supporters of Genocide.

The UN HAS BEEN anti israel for decades


by chillrob P

Well, good for you, because poor and oppressed people always seem to think it's a good idea to bring more people into their terrible situation, but we soulless rhetoricians understand the cruelly of bringing more people into a world full of hate.

Good post

The plo encouraged Palestinians to have huge families to become the majority.


by metsandfinsfan P

The UN HAS BEEN anti israel for decades

I’m well aware. Was mocking vic.

The UN is nauseatingly anti-Israel.


basic human dignity is anti-Israel


by gs3737 P

I’m well aware. Was mocking vic.

The UN is nauseatingly anti-Israel.

I wonder WHY


So Hamas is not giving back any hostages after all, and none of the "ceasefire" crowd seem particularly concerned.

So apparently it is up to Israel to take the L on this one, unilaterally withdraw, and allow Gaza to be reopened so Hamas can rearm, rebuild their terror infrastructure, and begin preparation for their next incursion into Israel. And it is the obligation of the US and Israel to pay for all of this.


by PointlessWords P

I wonder WHY

total mystery


I mean, its just so mean an unfair and probably antisemitic to toothlessly criticize Israel for the mass murder of starving people.


by Dunyain P

So Hamas is not giving back any hostages after all, and none of the "ceasefire" crowd seem particularly concerned.

So apparently it is up to Israel to take the L on this one, unilaterally withdraw, and allow Gaza to be reopened so Hamas can rearm, rebuild their terror infrastructure, and begin preparation for their next incursion into Israel. And it is the obligation of the US and Israel to pay for all of this.

you think Hamas should give back the hostages and let Israel continue its campaign of mass murder, displacement, and infrastructure destruction?


by metsandfinsfan P

Good post

A ringing endorsement lmao

Soulless and brainless agree


I think a lot of hostages are dead, and the ones that aren't were raped and abused so that is why hamas won't give a list

I hope that isn't true that they won't find back any hostages.

Nobody in their right mind could expect a ceasefire without getting hostages back. Well maybe victor but Nobody else


“The womb of the Arab woman is my strongest weapon.”

Yasir Arafat said that. That has been the goal. Multiply Multiply outnumber the Jews and take the land




by metsandfinsfan P


Nobody in their right mind could expect a ceasefire without getting hostages back. Well maybe victor but Nobody else

I would push back to this and say the vast vast majority of the 2 billion Muslims in the world and the entire Progressive left think this is exactly what should happen.

And when they say "cease-fire' they only mean unilateral Israel cease-fire. They absolutely believe Palestinian militants and other Iranian proxies (Hezbollah, Houthis, etc.) have carte blanche to attack Israel at their discretion.

There is zero first principles at work here. It is straight tribalism. I support my side with no reservations and denounce yours the same.


the secret to happiness is finding a partner who is as passionate about you as victor is about rape denial


by Dunyain P

I would push back to this and say the vast vast majority of the 2 billion Muslims in the world and the entire Progressive left think this is exactly what should happen.

And when they say "cease-fire' they only mean unilateral Israel cease-fire. They absolutely believe Palestinian militants and other Iranian proxies (Hezbollah, Houthis, etc.) have carte blanche to attack Israel at their discretion.

There is zero first principles at work h

most of the Progressive Left does not support or at least care about a cease fire.


by chillrob P

Well, good for you, because poor and oppressed people always seem to think it's a good idea to bring more people into their terrible situation, but we soulless rhetoricians understand the cruelly of bringing more people into a world full of hate.

Naturally the same people who accuse Arabs of being violent savages who don't care about human life are the ones who come in to make J.O. motions when 10-year-old children die.


by metsandfinsfan P

I think a lot of hostages are dead, and the ones that aren't were raped and abused so that is why hamas won't give a list

I hope that isn't true that they won't find back any hostages.

Nobody in their right mind could expect a ceasefire without getting hostages back. Well maybe victor but Nobody else

So you understand and approve of Hamas continuing to fight until the 1000 hostages Israel has are released


by metsandfinsfan P

Yasir Arafat said that. That has been the goal. Multiply Multiply outnumber the Jews and take the land

...and now we're doing Great Replacement Theory, incredible


by PointlessWords P

So you understand and approve of Hamas continuing to fight until the 1000 hostages Israel has are released

It is not Israel begging for a ceasefire, it is Hamas and Hamas supporters such as yourself.

They (and you) cant have it both ways. You cant say you have carte blanche to continue fighting indefinitely, but demand the other side withdraw. If Hamas wants to keep fighting that is their prerogative. But its not Israel's responsibility to let Hamas win, or even survive.


by Trolly McTrollson P

...and now we're doing Great Replacement Theory, incredible

Well, if you dont approve you are going to have to take it up with the ghost of Arafat, since he is the one that said it.


by Trolly McTrollson P

...and now we're doing Great Replacement Theory, incredible

You might want to consider lowering your expectations for certain people


by Trolly McTrollson P

...and now we're doing Great Replacement Theory, incredible

Arafat spoke about it all the time

You are acting like I'm making it up and the population of Palestinians hasn't increased 5x since 1950


by Trolly McTrollson P

...and now we're doing Great Replacement Theory, incredible

I thought replacement theory was antisemitic? Seems like a conflict if the goal is to outbreed Israel.


by metsandfinsfan P

Arafat spoke about it all the time

You are acting like I'm making it up and the population of Palestinians hasn't increased 5x since 1950

We're going to need to see the original quotes in Arabic and with a certified translation


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