The Box of Chocolates Thread (You never know what you're going to get!)
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Thank you, but I’ve heard this all before. If I had a dollar for every time some bro said he was the superior gender bc he had the ability to kill me, I’d buy you a ticket on the next Titianic sub
Superiority of gender is a silly concept as both sexes are fundamental for the existence of the species. I don't think I have ever argued for men superiority in this forum, unless you have taken the "men are better in timed sports" as evidence of superiority, which it isn't.
The same is NOT true for cultures though.
You can annihilate one and the species still flourishes, actually in many cases doing so makes the species flourishes more as explained.
Lots of push back from all sides about the definition of “superior”. Must have hit a nerve.
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I didn't say he did. I asked if perhaps that was the war outcome he might have preferred over the one Winston helped them secure. Seems like an honest question if someone hates WC so much.
CV the Swiss wound up with much of the Nazis spoils btw. i don' t think you want to be like 'we're like the Swiss'!
Let us agree that our leaders shouldn't offer condolences when Hitler dies, and move on.
Yeah you did you implied I wanted to see swatsika flags over Ireland stop lying and the Irish government never employed Nazi war criminals as spies either. Unlike the Israelis.
It is fine to "minimize" socially constructed categories at the academic/theoretical level. But I think it also important to realize in the real world how things work. As humans are hardwired to view the world around racial lines, telling them race isn't real isn't going to get you very far towards some post racial Star Trek utopian society.
In same way, there are real limitations to the penetration of progressive ideas around gender/se
Why do you think humans are hard wired to view the world along racial lines?
You think a world where google is owned by the American public in equal shares for everyone is better than a world where google is owned by people all over the world, but not everyone of them equally.
Why? How can you have competition which is the true engine of economic progress
How indeed, when internet searches are basically a monopoly?
Then do without antibiotics or modern capitalistic dentistry and painkillers when your children or you are suffering, then understand everything good in your life exists because of capitalism and life without it is hellish
The use of Penicillin to kill infections was discovered at St Mary's Hospital, London using public money, and as always your ignorance is astonishing and embarrassing.
Next you'll be be claiming that GPS and the internet are success stories of capitalism.
Yeah you did you implied I wanted to see swatsika flags over Ireland stop lying and the Irish government never employed Nazi war criminals as spies either. Unlike the Israelis.
Hey what's the status of U2 in Ireland right now? Too big to fail, or is that going badly for them? That has to be a seriously awkward spot I'd think?
Gets us back a bit on topic.
And Btw I clearly don't think you're a Nazi. But your relationship with the saviors of the free world is complicated the way Ireland was "complicated" in the war. Let us just put it that way. For me the debt to people like WC is a debt I will never be able to repay. I'd need 100 lifetimes.
Ireland wasn't any more complicated in WW2 than many other European countries. It was officially neutral but despite that many Irish volunteered to fight alongside the Allies.
You want to talk about complicated, let's talk Switzerland and Scandinavia.
The use of Penicillin to kill infections was discovered at St Mary's Hospital, London using public money, and as always your ignorance is astonishing and embarrassing.
Next you'll be be claiming that GPS and the internet are success stories of capitalism.
Sure you are the kind of person who can't follow the basic logic of "the public had the money to pay wages to physicians because of capitalism".
Without capitalism you don't have much research, public or private, because you never develop industrialization to begin with. The would be researcher is farming land.
Socialism can only apply what already works (far worse than the original), but it's only capitalism that spearheaded the jump in productivity that allows the public to be so rich, it can pay wages to physicians or set up arpanet.
All publicly-funded discoveries under a capitalism system happen because of capitalism not the other way around.
But even if you want, for ideological reasons, to deny that obvious logic, even if you want to claim antibiotics being discovered has nothing to do with capitalism, even then, efficient mass production and distribution and subsequent research for more effective antibiotics is all capitalism anyway.
Same for gps and the internet. Bringing the discovery to market cheaply, efficiently, on scale, under continuous improvement and refinement, that's all capitalism.
You don't gain much from a discovery if it isn't cheap and widely distributed among people.
this was not a fight against Colonialism. it was a fight to do Colonialism
when mob wars happen, nobody says the Colombos are fighting against mafiodom.
people who try to say that not worshipping Churchill is anti-semitic and others.
you were formerly in this group but I think you may have learned your lesson? proly not actually.
I never worshipped Churchill and never felt that those who disliked him were anti Semites, so I'm not part of any group.
Sure you are the kind of person who can't follow the basic logic of "the public had the money to pay wages to physicians because of capitalism".
Without capitalism you don't have much research, public or private, because you never develop industrialization to begin with. The would be researcher is farming land.
Socialism can only apply what already works (far worse than the original), but it's only capitalism that spearheaded the jump in prod
"Socialism can only apply what already works" is broad brush nonsense as I've already shown with examples.
"You don't gain much from a discovery if it isn't cheap and widely distributed among people" - you're the kind of person who can't use his own logic on the other side of an argument. You don't even get GPS without massive government spending on research and deployment. Did private equity put the first satellites into space?
Such a monopoly that is currently threatened by AI (people are starting to ask non-google AIs stuff they previously searched for, and that will grow a lot more in the immediate future) .
And the results are fed back into the data dump which google is a major part of for AI to refine itself with. You're arguing against yourself again but the penny hasn't yet dropped.
"Socialism can only apply what already works" is broad brush nonsense as I've already shown with examples.
"You don't gain much from a discovery if it isn't cheap and widely distributed among people" - you're the kind of person who can't use his own logic on the other side of an argument. You don't even get GPS without massive government spending on research.
Lol to the bold but whatever.
The public doing something isn't socialism.
Socialism is socialism, a society with no private property rights to productive assets, where the totality of goods and services are produced by the state.
That society doesn't develop industrialization if capitalism hasn't developed it yet and everything that follows from it, including being able to have public physicians, because they can't afford that.
Socialism can appear later and copy what works, with worse results, but left alone it improves so much worse than capitalism it's a joke even to try to compare.
When something in a capitalist system is funded by taxation, that still exists only because of capitalist activity, do you follow that logic? It's not the public that allows us to have roads, it's capitalism. It's not the public that allows us to have a mandatory saving and retirement system, it's capitalism.
All the wishlists of leftists everywhere only exist because of capitalism, people never even dreamed about that stuff because capitalism allowed industrialization which allowed current prosperity levels
Hey what's the status of U2 in Ireland right now? Too big to fail, or is that going badly for them? That has to be a seriously awkward spot I'd think?
Gets us back a bit on topic.
And Btw I clearly don't think you're a Nazi. But your relationship with the saviors of the free world is complicated the way Ireland was "complicated" in the war. Let us just put it that way. For me the debt to people like WC is a debt I will never be able to repa
Asserting an empire is the saviour of the free world is a shade paradoxical.
And no it wasn't that complicated, we were officially neutral but still helped the allies as we didn't want swastika flags all over the country, contrary to your implication.
And the results are fed back into the data dump which google is a major part of for AI to refine itself with. You're arguing against yourself again but the penny hasn't yet dropped.
I am not sure you have followed that the main AI is basically from Microsoft , and that bing went from approx 6% to 10% market share (desktop) in 3 years.
And that's accelerating fast with copilot.
Not sure you have a clue about this topic tbh (no offense)
Lol to the bold but whatever.
The public doing something isn't socialism.
Socialism is socialism, a society with no private property rights to productive assets, where the totality of goods and services are produced by the state.
That society doesn't develop industrialization if capitalism hasn't developed it yet and everything that follows from it, including being able to have public physicians, because they can't afford that.
Socialism can a
No, that's Communism. Back to the dictionary with you.
Oh hell, I'll do it for you:
Socialism is an economic and political philosophy encompassing diverse economic and social systems characterised by social ownership of the means of production
Social ownership can take various forms, including public, community, collective, cooperative or employee.
The public doing something is very much socialism.
Asserting an empire is the saviour of the free world is a shade paradoxical.
And no it wasn't that complicated, we were officially neutral but still helped the allies as we didn't want swastika flags all over the country, contrary to your implication.
If it's an empire within which people live with more freedom than almost everywhere else in world history, why is it a paradox?
