The costs of trans visibility

Why aren't you saying the same to the people who immediately jumped at the idea bullying was the cause though, I wonder

The issues that may have caused the uncertainty and anxiety that resulted in identity issues (such as both parents absenting themselves at a very early stage, leaving everything to the grandmother) are worth considering, but it is a bad idea to attribute any suicide to a single particular cause, absent judicial proof, especially where the young are concerned because of their known liability to suggestion and social contagion.

It's of interest that, before the legal and medical finding of suicide, media sources pre-emptively attempted to claim Benedict's death as a murder, even inventing 'serious head injuries' which were not in evidence, and also claiming that Oklahoma's law against school students using the opposite sex's bathrooms had anything to do with it, which for obvious reasons it didn't.

So first Nex was beaten to death, then when it's ruled a suicide it's due to bullying? Seems to me you're engaging in narrative rather than attempting true insights.

I don't feel the need to respond to every post or opine on all topics. You should try it.

There is a federal investigation into the incident that is ongoing.

I didn't speculate about the cause of their death. Only you did that. With wild fantasies about it being the secret fault of the left. Just because you did something horrendous in the face of a tragic death doesn't mean you get to pretend some whataboutism game that I did it too.

Why are you responding to me? I made no claim ITT about the cause of their death, before or after the autopsy.

Or that the choice to adopt a trans identity and the self-harm issues are symptoms of another underlying issue....

It’s impossible to “adopt a trans identity” you either are trans or not.

97-99% of trans individuals who transition don’t detransition. The other 3% mostly detransition at “gun point” - either for financial reasons or massive abuse from their own family.

So your position is that the people who detransition are still actually trans?

almost all the time, yes.

first off, how noble of you. seriously, you're an amazing person.

second, does the fact that he/she was non-binary somehow make it a worse tragedy?

Why

Lol this 3% is about people who still keep relationships with fender clinics.

It's a super low-ball estimate, resistors are actually exceptionally more common than that.

But you guys have an incredibly strong reason to lie about this I understand.

Because every non trans who gets sterilized or mutilated is something society could reasonably use to shut down all the "trans youth care" operations

This is not true just on general principles. Regardless of your opinion of the transgender issue, it is possible to be something and choose not to identify yourself as that thing in society. And equally, you can not be something and choose to identify as that thing socially.

I feel like not using the tragic death of a non-binary person to score internet victory points with inane speculations about that the *real* reason they committed suicide is because of evil lefties is a pretty low bar to pass, not some high mark of nobility.

Why did you use binary pronouns to describe someone that two words later you described as non-binary?

Ah yes the fake trans menace again. How original.

Because we don't buy radical leftist semantics.

If someone is confused (non binary) that's not another gender or a spectrum. Everyone is exclusively either man or woman, male or female.

If confused and you want to respect, you use he/she.

None of this makes any sense except for those seeing really dumb doctors who shouldn't be practicing. Imagine an individual who has symptoms severe enough to diagnose some depression or anxiety disorder. If that individual is trans or not, it doesn't at all influence whether their symptoms meet the criteria for that mental health condition. Perhaps you'd consider a diagnosis of gender dysphoria instead, but that's the only change that would be made.

As someone who is a mental health professional and who works with many other such people daily, I find the idea that a mental health professional would downplay psychopathology in someone because they're trans just absurd. This profession skews left, so if anything wouldn't we be prone to over-treating such individuals?

Radical leftism structurally always does the max damage to the groups it purportedly tries to help, starting with racial minorities.

It's not strange to see trans people being directly killed causally because of the trans activist movement. That's what radical leftism does regularly. When they start caring about the poor's, the poor's suffer horribly. When they start caring about women, women rights disappear. When they start caring about racial minorities, blacks and latinos in the USA die more because of them ("defund the police").

And so on.

It's like a rule, everything the radical left touches gets massacred, radical leftists hands are covered in blood

If it's depression, gender identity doesn't matter much.

What about schizophrenia? Various behavioral disorders?

If you can't use gender identification as one of the severe symptoms of something being really wrong with that kid, because pseudo religious thinking forces you violently to NEVER doubt teenagers self identifications, never use that as a signal something might be wrong, you are very limited as a treating physician.

What if self identifying as trans in this society is a cry for help? No, that's impossible, we have to take 100% of the self identifications as simply the expression of true gender identity, no matter how inconsistent with the rest of the clinical picture that might be.

every teenage suicide (or murder) is tragic. do you not debate any of those?

as for your second question, i really don't have a good answer. i can comprehend a man saying he is actually a woman or vice versa but i can't comprehend someone saying they are neither. im not trying to be difficult, just more or less saying it's a habit to refer to someone as he/she. should i say they? i guess that's probably right.

more or less i am on board with an adult saying they are a gender different than what shows in their underoos but when they say they are neither its a lot harder to take them seriously as i think nearly every species on the planet is divided amongst male or female.

When describing people, how do you differentiate between someone who is trans in their head but hasn't changed anything, versus someone who changes their appearance, name, etc.?