Ukraine-Russia War Take 2
Here is what the preliminary take on the Ukraine thread disappearing is:
The site was hit with a massive spam attack where hundreds of spam threads were created. In the case where, for example, I see a single spam thread and delete it, that is called a soft delete, and mods can still see them but forum members cannot. Those deletion can be undone.
When a massive attack hits with hundreds of threads, an admin uses a different procedure where the hundreds of spam threads are merged and then hard deleted, where the threads are gone, and no note is left behind. As I have mentioned with my own experience of just soft deleting a large number of posts, sometimes a post or thread gets checked or merged accidentally and is deleted by mistake. Dealing with hundreds of spam threads takes a sledgehammer, not a scalpel.
It appears that our Ukraine thread may have gotten caught up in that recent net of spam threads. If so, it is likely gone for good. I cant say this for sure, and am awaiting comments from admins on this issue. Yes, this sucks. And hopefully there was some other software glitch that caused the disappearance, and we may recover it in the future.
But in the meantime, I have created this new Ukraine-Russia War thread to enable the conversation to continue. Obviously continuity with earlier discussions will be lost. There is no way around that. So as best as possible, let's pick up the conversation with recent events and go from there.
If you have any questions about this, please post them in the mod thread, not here. Let's keep this thread going with posts about the war, not the disappearance of the old thread.
Thanks.
It's a common way of making fun of Putin. Just a coincidence.
Ya the war is great for Ukraine
Pointing out the absurdity of Russians invading Russia today along with the absurdity of the "3 day SMO" and the absurdity of "Ukraine is actually Russia" does not mean that "war is great for Ukraine".
I'm struggling to think of any examples where getting invaded by a much stronger, much larger military was "great" for a country.
hence my sympathy for Zelensky who is really in a mess.
Really interesting
OK, play it out far enough then I guess you can see instances where that's the case. It could be the case for Ukraine even.
In case anyone is still under the impression that Putin was ever sincere about peace:
Phone call between Zelenskyy and Macron when the invasion started
Medvedev most virulent rants against the west apparently very precisely correlate with Tuscan wine shipments to Russia
Unfortunately due to USA aid being blocked, we get to test the previous threads competing theories.
Theory 1: Putin is not trying to kill civilians, if he was he'd be killing far more.
Theory 2: Putin is absolutely trying to kill civilians, but western air defenses are largely preventing him.
(For whatever reason things like Mariupol and other flattened cities were already being ignored and only current casualties were deemed as appropriate evidence.)
you know what Israel calls that? a slow day.
What purpose does that comparison serve?
Also for what it's worth, this is one city of multiple which were attacked.
Things I've learned on visiting Planet Vic: Conscription in time of war is slavery and 'shrooms are a helluva trip.
yes ofc conscription is slavery
Things I've learned on visiting Planet Vic: Conscription in time of war is slavery and 'shrooms are a helluva trip.
Conscription is literally slavery, you can then decide there are emergencies in which slavery is justified (I tend to tirreni but why not discuss it).
At least this is the libertarian position
Ofc it's a form of slavery which tends to be better than many others:
1) it's temporary
2) you don't lose all your rights
3) you can't be sold
But if women forced to be prostitutes for the militaries were considered (appropriately) sex slaves, then conscripts are military slaves
roving bands of kidnappers are hunting people off the street to force to murder each other. sounds a like like slavery to me.
ya things in the 90s were so democratic in Russia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Russi...
Yeltsin literally bombed the parliament.
and, no election interference.
In a total shock result Uncle Vlad wins the election by a landslide.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world...
Spoiler
Even if the election was fair Putin still would have won.
