ex-President Trump
I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?
So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at low-info Boomers like my religions aunts. I have two questions:
a) Is anyone here who supports Trump bothered by lies like this?
b) Does anyone know what he's even talking about here? Like is there some grain of truth that he's embellishing on bigly?
Politico trying to tell you guys, in a much better prose than I could ever muster, approximately what I was trying to say before.
It's not so much about trump as you think it is in maga world, it's about his policies, especially his most controversial policy stances.
There are people which are on the far right of trump
I know but it's a possibility that defies the logic of the ban.
A non Chinese/Russian/inimical country TikTok isn't TikTok anymore.
The reason for the ban is to deprive enemy countries from accessing too much domestic data.
And remember the topic was trump was against the ban, and maga republicans in the house didn't give a shi t and voted for it en masse anyway.
What a cult where they disregard the cult leader when they don't agree!
This makes no sense. Do you think that the software couldn't work the same if another country owned it?
I understand the reason many want the ban - and if it wasn't owned by China, there wouldn't be a problem.
This makes no sense. Do you think that the software couldn't work the same if another country owned it?
I understand the reason many want the ban - and if it wasn't owned by China, there wouldn't be a problem.
No I don't think the Chinese government would have the same access to the data if the servers weren't in china and the managers of the company families couldn't be threatened no.
I also think TikTok can work as it does with low interest in revenue because it isn't mainly a for profit enterprise, just a data collecting app that also makes some money on the side.
Politico trying to tell you guys, in a much better prose than I could ever muster, approximately what I was trying to say before.
It's not so much about trump as you think it is in maga world, it's about his policies, especially his most controversial policy stances.
There are people which are on the far right of trump
This "new right" is not who we mean the Trump cult is. Do you think the photos I posted were young people who care more about policies than they do about Trump himself?
No I don't think the Chinese government would have the same access to the data if the servers weren't in china and the managers of the company families couldn't be threatened no.
I also think TikTok can work as it does with low interest in revenue because it isn't mainly a for profit enterprise, just a data collecting app that also makes some money on the side.
I guess I don't understand what your argument is here. I think it should be banned, but it's not going to happen anytime soon. That was my argument.
I guess I don't understand what your argument is here. I think it should be banned, but it's not going to happen anytime soon. That was my argument.
I think it's going to be taken off Chinese hands, which is what trump didn't want now (he wanted to keep that as a bargaining chip for later when he is potus), and which is what house republicans voted to try to achieve anyway
I know but it's a possibility that defies the logic of the ban.
A non Chinese/Russian/inimical country TikTok isn't TikTok anymore.
The reason for the ban is to deprive enemy countries from accessing too much domestic data.
And remember the topic was trump was against the ban, and maga republicans in the house didn't give a shi t and voted for it en masse anyway.
What a cult where they disregard the cult leader when they don't agree!
The cult everyone is talking about are grassroots republican voters. Other than in some state like Alabama that has more people than distinct genes, I don't expect any of them actually get elected to the house.
And yes, obviously not every single person that votes for Trump is a cultist, but to compare the Trump/MAGA cult to some imaginary Biden cult as if they are similar things is pretty lol.
montreal, instead of writing an incredible long novel like you often do you need to think about what you want to say and work on saying it in less than 1/2 the words. Also, don't ask other posters to answer 10 questions when you post - try to select the 3 or 4 you think are most important.
I think your main point is that there is a point where raising or lowering taxes on the rich has diminishing returns. I agree with this. Your other point
I don’t write a novel , I just posted some points from article to show you where what you say or article assumption are wrong .
Second I didn’t ask lot of questions , I just ask you what a successful trickle down economy result is for you , under different forms and yes ….. you still couldn’t answer that simple question .
Yes we know where we are on the ladder curve , we are below the 50% mark , if you would have read the article you would of know that but I didn’t want it to make it a « bigger » novel .
So when tax are below 50% , cutting them isn’t has beneficial as u suggest .
Finally freedom as nothing to do with gdp growth , look at China ….
But yes vast majorities of all studies been showing wealth inequality do prevent optimal gdp growth !
Again go back to the model of mean of production and think on it it will come to you …..
Hint: workers are one of the factor of production !
apparently Trump is trying to calm the waters by claiming that if he doesn't win in November a blood bath would ensue
Nope, definitely not a MAGAt. Not even a little.
Stop buying into the lefts narrative he was talking about an economic bloodbath while talking about China and auto imports .
Hmm it appears you are right, he was talking about car imports, the need according to him of insane tariffs, and a bloodbath ensuing if he wasnt elected and so couldnt enact those tariffs
neither of you are very smart. it started one way and ended another. it's a tactic to confuse simple minded people like yourselves.
And yes, obviously not every single person that votes for Trump is a cultist, but to compare the Trump/MAGA cult to some imaginary Biden cult as if they are similar things is pretty lol.
And this has measurable impacts. There was a 20 point jump discontinuity in economic survey questions like "are your finances currently better than they were a year ago" right after Trump got elected but before he even took office. No such discontinuity was observed with Biden, Obama etc. The most likely explanation is a sizable group of non fact based Trump cultists can no longer answer basic unrelated questions without thinking about their dear leader first.
And this has measurable impacts. There was a 20 point jump discontinuity in economic survey questions like "are your finances currently better than they were a year ago" right after Trump got elected but before he even took office. No such discontinuity was observed with Biden, Obama etc. The most likely explanation is a sizable group of non fact based Trump cultists can no longer answer basic unrelated questions without thinking about t
Tbf democrats are just perma-pessimists no matter who governs the nation so proportionally to that, the jump is visible for them as well.
And when Bush won the dip is monstrous
It's just that they are never optimists even when they have a trifecta (in the last 20 years).
You assured us that Trump isn't a real threat to democracy, so I'm going to just shrug off this sort of rhetoric.
I gave you my impression at the time I wrote it.
Now it seemed he had came out with a very blatant autocratic message, but it was "just" an absurd protectionist claim which I very much disagree with but wouldn't end democracy anyway
Stop buying into the lefts narrative he was talking about an economic bloodbath while talking about China and auto imports .
Imagine glossing over the acts and words of literal fascism since Election Day 2020 without anything to say
But this where you can say there’s exaggeration is the line in which you want to say ‘hold on libs, now you’ve gone too far’ and pretending you’re a serious human being
Also, it's not like anyone has ever used violent imagery figuratively with a view to normalising that sort of language amongst their followers for when they start using it literally.
I gave you my impression at the time I wrote it.
Now it seemed he had came out with a very blatant autocratic message, but it was "just" an absurd protectionist claim which I very much disagree with but wouldn't end democracy anyway
I agree that he was using that rhetoric in the context of discussing trade rather than civil unrest. I wasn't intending to suggest otherwise. My point was that Trump very freely uses the language of authoritarianism in a variety of contexts, which I understood from your perspective wasn't anything that anyone should be concerned about.
I agree that he was using that rhetoric in the context of discussing trade rather than civil unrest. I wasn't intending to suggest otherwise. My point was that Trump very freely uses the language of authoritarianism in a variety of contexts, which I understood from your perspective wasn't anything that anyone should be concerned about.
If the actual actionable plans (so language in a strategic context) were authoritarian I would be concerned, but my reading of project 2025 (and I linked to it and I asked people to point to me which proposals were actually scary for them, in terms of ending democracy), is that if applied as written it would massively decrease state capacity for authoritarianism.
As for Trump remarks in public "to his crowd" I don't recall stuff I would consider more authoritarian than stuff on the democratic side, and both parties and candidates for me stay within the constitution with their proposals (remember that anything the constitution allows the state to do can't end democracy, at least that's my opinion of how good your constitution is).
Trump on whether Putin was behind Navalny’s death
“I don’t know,” Trump answered when asked if Putin was responsible. “Perhaps. I mean, possibly, I could say probably. I don’t know. He’s a young man, so statistically, he’d be alive for a long time. You go by the insurance numbers, he’d be alive for another 40 years.”
“Something happened that was unusual,” Trump said.
When pressed by Kurtz on Navalny’s prior attempted assassination by poisoning, Trump again declined to be definitive.
“I don’t know. You certainly can’t say for sure,” he said. “But certainly that would look like something very bad happened.”
Imagine lololololozen will say the left is clearly muddling the waters here and trump clearly implicated putin
Trump on whether Putin was behind Navalny’s death
Imagine lololololozen will say the left is clearly muddling the waters here and trump clearly implicated putin
Well, I mean, you're not going to publicly accuse your boss of murder, right?
Surprised he didn't say "Very strong man, the best man. When I am king of America I will be just like him" to the deafening cheer of his bootlicking supporters.
