The costs of trans visibility
Yesterday, Dylan Mulvaney broke her silence: https://www.tiktok.com/@dylanmulvaney/vi....
For context, this is a trans influencer who built a 10 million strong following on TikTok. She took a brand deal with budweiser to post an ad on an instagram, and the anti-trans right went absolutely ballistic, calling for a boycott, condemning the company, and to some perhaps unknowable degree it influenced that Budweiser sales dropped by a 1/4 and
. Dylan speaks more personally about the effect of the hatred on her.
What strikes me about this story is that it is just about visibility. This isn't inclusion in sports or gender-affirming care for minors, it was just that a trans person was visible. This wasn't even visibility in a TV commerical that a poor right-winger is forced to see, it was an ad on her own instagram page. We're all in our own social media algorithm influenced bubbles, but from my vantage point it really has seemed that in the last year or so things have just gotten worse for trans people and the backlash to even minor visibility is growing.
We need to do better.
Someone who calls themselves a libertarian wants to steal my money and give it to cops is mad about student loans. Shake my head.
There are different types of authoritarianism and you fight them differently depending on which is which.
If I am right about cultural Marxism you don't beat them just looking at the most current manifestation (BLM, trans activism, and so on), but by solving the core problem, IE you go against their institutional power in colleges.
For example a naive look might convince you BLM isn't a threat anymore because defund the police attempts have m
The thing is, the cat is already out of the bag. These identity issues will not be overcome by suppressing them. I’m not saying what Rufo does isn’t part of the solution, but it’s not anywhere near enough.
At root this is a psychological issue, and it’s so pervasive, addressing it solely at the socio-cultural-political level will not end well.
The Woke identitarians deny the self, the mind, and the soul. Any response which does the same will be insufficient.
I can't imagine explaining my thoughts on these things in any reasonable sized post. I will say that the culture war stuff is not something I think about that much at all.
why? for prison it's an easy yes or no.
if a person self identifies as the opposite sex and gets convicted if a crime that includes a jail sentence, should he go in his biological sex prison or the other one?
this isn't culture war this is real life and there is no dodging around it, you have to put that person either here or there.
why? for prison it's an easy yes or no.
if a person self identifies as the opposite sex and gets convicted if a crime that includes a jail sentence, should he go in his biological sex prison or the other one?
this isn't culture war this is real life and there is no dodging around it, you have to put that person either here or there.
Prisons in the US are completely ****ed and although 100% prison abolition wouldn't necessarily be ideal, it would be a lot better than the status quo. So, it's not that easy a yes or no. Prisons should be so different that the circumstances around this would be completely different. But, I'm not a frightened hateful fearmongering reactionary and this thing where born-male-transitioned-to-female are an immense threat doesn't have me in a nervous fit like it does you.
And not culture war? What the ****? Who cares about sports?
Prisons in the US are completely ****ed and although 100% prison abolition wouldn't necessarily be ideal, it would be a lot better than the status quo. So, it's not that easy a yes or no.
And not culture war? What the ****? Who cares about sports?
you can aim for the abolition of them but right now they exist.
where do you want the man who thinks he is a woman, in which prison, with men or with women?
why is it hard to answer it's easy whatever your preference is (unless you agree with me and you hate admitting it)
women who are good at it and could get free college with it for example.
or do you want the government to draft women like in Israel? because if all it took to dodge draft legally was to self define as women, with no other effect, what do you think would happen?
women who are good at it and could get free college with it for example.
or do you want the government to draft women like in Israel? because if all it took to dodge draft legally was to self define as women, with no other effect, what do you think would happen?
I don't want the government to draft anyone. That one was really easy.
and given the draft exists, how should it be applied.
I don't want taxes on most things but given they exist I must have an opinion on how they get used and which to cut first if we can cut any, because that's how the real world works.
or you can claim you literally don't care how the trans person is treated in those examples which is what you are saying.
I already linked to you a long heritage foundation piece on the topic, and I have already told you Peterson hasn't much to do with this.
You say this then you go on to say
They frame the issue of trans ness as one of normal people (which they call cisgender) vs trans people, the latter being oppressed, and they side with the oppressed, allowing them all latitude including acceptance of all their claims no matter what they are, a mandate for everyone else to agree with those claims, up to violence to fight against the oppressor and so on.
It's identical to material Marxists ending up claiming workers are exploi
which is Peterson 101 (as you know).
I can understand you'd be embarrassed by being linked to a fool like him, but come on.
you can aim for the abolition of them but right now they exist.
where do you want the man who thinks he is a woman, in which prison, with men or with women?
why is it hard to answer it's easy whatever your preference is (unless you agree with me and you hate admitting it)
I think the only answer is that it's complicated and that a potential threat to the safety of a given inmate or the threat they pose to other inmates needs to be addressed on a case by case basis.
You say this then you go on to say
which is Peterson 101 (as you know).
I can understand you'd be embarrassed y being linked to a fool like him, but come on.
maybe it's Peterson who got it from other people, did that thought ever entertain you?
I literally had my first encounter with a Peterson video when a friend linked it to me saying "hey Lucio it's like 10 years you say the same things"
and given the draft exists, how should it be applied.
I don't want taxes on most things but given they exist I must have an opinion on how they get used and which to cut first if we can cut any, because that's how the real world works.
or you can claim you literally don't care how the trans person is treated in those examples which is what you are saying.
The draft is really easy because it's just so immoral. Anything that allows people to evade and resist it is good.
I think the only answer is that it's complicated and that a potential threat to the safety of a given inmate or the threat they pose to other inmates needs to be addressed on a case by case basis.
so self identification isn't enough so you deny their "freedom" to impose their identity upon others subjectively.
so that wasn't actual freedom to begin with
maybe it's Peterson who got it from other people, did that thought ever entertain you?
I literally had my first encounter with a Peterson video when a friend linked it to me saying "hey Lucio it's like 10 years you say the same things"
No, I am pretty sure it more or less started with Peterson. You can find old lectures of his from when he was a Harvard professor decades ago talking about Foccault and Derrida and the threat incorporation of their postmodern "cultural Marxism" into higher education is.
This book is more or less his Magnum Opus describing his beliefs, and it was originally published in 1999, which means he probably started coming up with the ideas even way early. I actually don't know if he started using the exact term 'cultural Marxism" this early, but from the excerpts I have been exposed to, you can see this is where it is going.
so self identification isn't enough so you deny their "freedom" to impose their identity upon others subjectively.
so that wasn't actual freedom to begin with
This is nonsense. You're a cop loving authoritarian who wants to kill people, "garbage people" as you say, who have done nothing to you on boats in the Mediterranean because you think you own Italy and you think you're doing some kind of gotcha on me because of some nonsense about me denying people the freedom to impose their identity? Stop being ridiculous.
The notion that there would be an epidemic of men claiming to be women to evade the draft really just goes to show how stupid and terrified these culture warriors are. It's just complete fantasy nonsense. These cowards are just so terrified by anecdotes whether it's the one trans person in sports or some crime or whatever.
The notion that there would be an epidemic of men claiming to be women to evade the draft really just goes to show how stupid and terrified these culture warriors are. It's just complete fantasy nonsense.
No less nonsensical than the notion that defunding the police in a highly criminal society would be a positive for the communities where most of the crime occurs. You seem to be a pretty big proponent of "defund/abolish the police" rhetoric and seem mostly agnostic towards how big a disaster implementation of these ideas has been.
The notion that there would be an epidemic of men claiming to be women to evade the draft really just goes to show how stupid and terrified these culture warriors are. It's just complete fantasy nonsense. These cowards are just so terrified by anecdotes whether it's the one trans person in sports or some crime or whatever.
I mean they self identify as different races for college admission/hiring but surely they wouldn't say "woman" with 0 repercussions to avoid war ok, whatever man
The notion that there would be an epidemic of men claiming to be women to evade the draft really just goes to show how stupid and terrified these culture warriors are. It's just complete fantasy nonsense. These cowards are just so terrified by anecdotes whether it's the one trans person in sports or some crime or whatever.
It wouldn't be my first choice but if all other options fail then I don't see why not.
My point was sublime claims to accept trans people's existence, but in the same post rejects their reality. That's not acceptance. It's hateful. They claim trans are sick. It's not true.
It's really not that difficult. In order to coexist, we need respect other people's rights. Respecting the rights of others makes us happy and more healthy.
And the culture stuff is simple too, but may be new to many. Sex is biological, most people are born m
that's called tolerance or a similar word. you don't 'tolerate' people you agree with, you simply agree with them. you accept those you don't agree with.
i consider transism to be a rejection of a basic reality. i accept/tolerate when an adult chooses to change their hormonal structure and/or remove body parts.
i DO NOT accept said group exposing children to said lifestyle.
you can label my positions anything you want, i dont care.
Tolerance isn't telling people they're crazy child mutilators. I don't believe you engage in good faith and won't reply further.
never used the words you claim i did.
i dont consider it evil for a grown adult to do what they want with their body.
i do consider it evil to promote said lifestyle on children. same as i would if a cocaine addict (who i tolerate) was giving free hits to a fourth grader.
in b4 ZOMG you just compared a drug addict to a trans person. well, in a way, a trans person is handcuffed to drugs for the rest of their lives. makes more sense why there are so many doctors (the same profession that doles out oxy like candy) who say trans surgery should be a taxpayer expense. $$$$$$$$$$$$
