Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

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07 October 2023 at 09:33 PM
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The 6 week pause is on the table which would allow tons of aid in

Hamas doesn't want to release any hostages

It's Israel's fault?


Well if the remaining hostages are found dead of starvation, it's at least partly Israel's fault.


Hamas doesn’t seem to be starving based on their own propaganda videos.

Raiding their own people for aid supplies to supplement whatever they are getting from undiscovered smuggling routes seems to be enough to keep Hamas members well fed in well lit tunnels and homes.

They share none of it with the civilians of course.

But they do seem to have enough excess food for sale though, per their own propaganda videos.

Btw, this makes Israel blocking aid all the more stupid. The right move is and always has been feeding the civilians themselves and catching Hamas red handed raiding the civilians.


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by chillrob P

It's not possible to hate a terrorist group whose stated goal is genocide without supporting genocide. Interesting logic there.

Just shows that you don't really care about the people of Gaza, you care about the survival of Hamas.

Hamas does not have a goal of genocide. we have been thru this already. stop repeated blatant lies.

by chillrob P

The average Israeli probably doesn't care about hostages they don't know personally. The actual family members do, which is why they want a deal to get them back. Others are just worried that they or their families will get taken hostage or killed in the future, so they want Hamas taken down. All seems like regular human nature to me.

History is full of the leaders of surrounding countries underestimating the power and willingness of Israel

if they are worried they will be taken hostage, then they should hope that Israel is willing to negotiate for hostages. otherwise if their time comes then they will be screwed.

so really, the surest way is to simply leave Israel which is by far the most dangerous place for a Jewish person on the planet.


by Victor P

Hamas does not have a goal of genocide. we have been thru this already. stop repeated blatant lies.

if they are worried they will be taken hostage, then they should hope that Israel is willing to negotiate for hostages. otherwise if their time comes then they will be screwed.

so really, the surest way is to simply leave Israel which is by far the most dangerous place for a Jewish person on the planet.

Yes we have home through it many times, and the extermination of Israel is in the Hamas charter, which you somehow deny.

And everyone knows, the best way to prevent hostage taking in the future is to not reward it in the present.

I wouldn't want to live in Israel but it's surely not the most dangerous place for a Jew. That would be in any of the Muslim states where Jew hating is part of the culture and sharia is the basis of the laws.


Dunno why anyone thinks they have much of a clue about the internal motivations of Hamas leaders or their relationship with Iran beyond just speculation. I'm sure I've missed a lot, but I don't think the people in question here have been shown or published in sources available to people here anywhere near enough to make these judgements.

Jeez, we don't even really know how much the USA can order Israel around.


by chillrob P

Yes we have home through it many times, and the extermination of Israel is in the Hamas charter, which you somehow deny.

And everyone knows, the best way to prevent hostage taking in the future is to not reward it in the present.

I wouldn't want to live in Israel but it's surely not the most dangerous place for a Jew. That would be in any of the Muslim states where Jew hating is part of the culture and sharia is the basis of the laws.

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Palestinian opinion polls:

https://pcpsr.org/en/node/969


by grizy P

Hamas doesn’t seem to be starving based on their own propaganda videos.

Raiding their own people for aid supplies to supplement whatever they are getting from undiscovered smuggling routes seems to be enough to keep Hamas members well fed in well lit tunnels and homes.

They share none of it with the civilians of course.

But they do seem to have enough excess food for sale though, per their own propaganda videos.

Btw, this makes Israel blocking

you have no evidence of any of this.

local gangs looted a lot of food. when Israel allowed movement to distribute the aid from the barge publicity stunt, the police were able to engage with these gangs. Israel responded by murdering all of the police.

and ofc it turned out that the celebrity chef in charge aid is committed Zionist capitalist ghoul who supports genocide. but thats ofc outside the point.


by Bluegrassplayer P

Palestinian opinion polls:

https://pcpsr.org/en/node/969

why on earth would think that this is at all representative of Palestinians? look at where the info is coming from.

its like if a Russian financed group did a poll on Ukrainians.


by Bluegrassplayer P

Palestinian opinion polls:

https://pcpsr.org/en/node/969

At quick glance

Hamas more popular now in gaza than they were in December?
Hamas less popular in West Bank now than they are in December

People want hamas to keep power

Deny oct 7 atrocities even after seeing video

Will destroy Fatah if they take over

Sigh




by microbet P

Dunno why anyone thinks they have much of a clue about the internal motivations of Hamas leaders or their relationship with Iran beyond just speculation. I'm sure I've missed a lot, but I don't think the people in question here have been shown or published in sources available to people here anywhere near enough to make these judgements.

Jeez, we don't even really know how much the USA can order Israel around.

I think a lot of the speculation comes from how and why Qatar protects and houses their leaders


by metsandfinsfan P

I think a lot of the speculation comes from how and why Qatar protects and houses their leaders

Why? Qatar, the oil rich Sunni Kingdom, is not an Iranian client state.


They've their own islamist idiom lol

They likely depend on Iran militarily. And who gives one pork sheeeit enough to identify some uniqueness. It's not interesting enough


funny that nobody else in this thread is angry and horrified at the drone strike videos.

instead we get dozens of posts about how Hamas wants that to happen.

the only people that want that to happen are the Israeli Zionist ghouls and their supporters in this thread. I have a lot more respect for the Israeli soldiers and their Hasbara bots bc at least they readily and fervently admit that they enjoy those massacres. I appreciate the honesty whereas people in this thread just act like it doesnt happen.


Get over it


me, a person with humanity and empathy and love is having a hard time getting over it.

you, a mentally ill deranged troll that has harassed many people across many forums is reveling in it.

cant you find another forum with transexual to harass to fulfill your repressed pathologies. I am sorry that she rejected you. I really am. time to get over it.


lol

Suck my besmirched, circumcised doink with enthusiasm


by chillrob P

It's not possible to hate a terrorist group whose stated goal is genocide without supporting genocide. Interesting logic there.

Just shows that you don't really care about the people of Gaza, you care about the survival of Hamas.

This is the only thing I'm fairly sure of. Hamas won't survive this.

They have a force coming at them that simply won't let them off the hook for Oct 7th.


by Schlitz mmmm P

lol

Suck my besmirched, circumcised doink with enthusiasm

save that talk for PMs with the people you harass


Get your jollies, lover


It's all over the net, this documented harassment. What ever will I do?


you arent going to do anything but support murder. thats what you do. cheer on murder and attempt to prey on people. why dont you go join the IDF? I am sure you could live out your fantasies there.


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