Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

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Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

AM YISRAEL CHAI.


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07 October 2023 at 09:33 PM
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Hamas' definition of Zionists is all the Jews that they can find in "Palestine"


Im not going to be able to address a multitude of posts itt for several more hours. Dont take that the posts remain up as any indication as to what is allowable and what isnt. In the meantime I recommend some posters take a step back and dial down the heat a bit.

Thanks


Amen


by metsandfinsfan P

The 6 week pause is on the table which would allow tons of aid in

Hamas doesn't want to release any hostages

It's Israel's fault?

I don't think a 6 week pause is needed to get aid in. If Israel cared to let more aid in then it would happen.


by PointlessWords P

israel knew they just ignored

Doubt they ignored it. Just didn't take it seriously.


38 percent of U.S. Jewish voters under age 40 say Israel is an apartheid state. This from 2021. Wonder how much its climbed since then.


https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/22/opini...


by 5 south P

Doubt they ignored it. Just didn't take it seriously.


That’s the same as ignored in this context. Anyway Israel says they ignored it. Don’t know why you wouldn’t trust their own reports to be accurate


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and here we go


people werent appalled enough at the drone strikes on teenagers for sport so Israel stepped it up a level


https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/a...

The IDF announced on Thursday that in its four-day operation in Shifa Hospital in northern Gaza, it has now killed around 140 terrorists from Hamas and Islamic Jihad, as well as arrested around 650 additional terrorists.

650!!!


Curiously, the IDF said that all of the Islamic Jihad operatives in the area quickly surrendered, whereas Hamas’s forces were split into two groups, with one large group also surrendering en masse and one large group continuing to resist.


Between killed and captured with Shifa that's almost battalion strength loses for the Palestinian side. That's devastating.

It's hard to find much coverage on this in North America or Europe. All over Israeli news obviously. That's a lot of militants in a hospital area.


no they executed a bunch of male civilians and kidnapped the rest. then sent the women and children to walk south. and sniped some of them for fun on the way out.

and they already got caught lying about this.


by Victor P

no they executed a bunch of male civilians and kidnapped the rest. then sent the women and children to walk south. and sniped some of them for fun on the way out.

and they already got caught lying about this.

Victor I'm able to cite numerous internationally reputable news sources. What are you citing?


by PointlessWords P

That’s the same as ignored in this context. Anyway Israel says they ignored it. Don’t know why you wouldn’t trust their own reports to be accurate


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Yeah, I didn't word it so great. I guess hubris on Israel's part?


https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-650-te...

Victor the "mistake" is explained in the Times of Israel piece from today

The IDF also released a collage image of what it said were some of the detained terror operatives, although it later admitted that due to “human error” some of those in the picture had not yet been nabbed, but were believed to be holed up at Shifa.

But check the article. The one error guy does not invalidate the massive list of others in there. That's how antivaxers lead their campaigns of misinformation. Find one error, all the rest must be an error.

You may want to deny this to yourself, but they just got 100's of your guys....in and around a hospital


by 5 south P

Yeah, I didn't word it so great. I guess hubris on Israel's part?

hubris and they love war. same as US. whats 1000 lives to keep bibi in power and satisfy the military industrial complex


That's a lot of guys. The ones who surrendered probably figure they'll be traded for later anyway. It's not a bad way to stay alive frankly.




by rafiki P

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-650-te...

Victor the "mistake" is explained in the Times of Israel piece from today

The IDF also released a collage image of what it said were some of the detained terror operatives, although it later admitted that due to “human error” some of those in the picture had not yet been nabbed, but were believed to be holed up at Shifa.

But check

there were a bunch of "mistakes"

I have the eyewitness accounts. you have lies from a genocidal regime.


by Victor P

there were a bunch of "mistakes"

I have the eyewitness accounts. you have lies from a genocidal regime.

Just to understand your claim, your claim is that hamas people stay away from hospitals?


just an absolutely psychopathic society.

had watched the Ilan Pappe interview on EI the other day and he spoke about how wrote a book predicting this genocide after going over the Israel school curriculum. clear as day, you can see the indoctrinated hatred in these interviews.


by Victor P

just an absolutely psychopathic society.

had watched the Ilan Pappe interview on EI the other day and he spoke about how wrote a book predicting this genocide after going over the Israel school curriculum. clear as day, you can see the indoctrinated hatred in these interviews.

not very christ like of them


by Victor P

there were a bunch of "mistakes"

I have the eyewitness accounts. you have lies from a genocidal regime.

uh-huh. We believe you Victor.


Victor if you had any balance at all in this, everyone would take you more seriously. The problem is you live in a world where a raid like that can take place, and it's all innocents and women and old people rounded up. But that's not the real world. Conversely all the efforts you put into it are largely wasted because it's nearly impossible to take you seriously.

You could still do what you do with like 30% more balance, and your points and your mission would land far better.


by rafiki P

uh-huh. We believe you Victor.


Victor if you had any balance at all in this, everyone would take you more seriously. The problem is you live in a world where a raid like that can take place, and it's all innocents and women and old people rounded up. But that's not the real world. Conversely all the efforts you put into it are largely wasted because it's nearly impossible to take you seriously.

You could still do what you do with like 30% mo

ya I dont want to do balance with the modern day Nazis.


not gonna do any "balance" with the society that hunts people for sport and murders them with air strikes


eagerly waiting for victor to call china and russia genocide-enablers



by Luciom P

eagerly waiting for victor to call china and russia genocide-enablers


this headline is a blatant and disgusting lie


its not an immediate cease fire


dont know or care what Russia and China are doing


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