In other news

In other news

In the current news climate we see that some figures and events tend to dominate the front-pages heavily. Still, there are important, interesting or just plain weird things happening out there and a group of people can find these better than one.

I thought I would test with a thread for linking general news articles about "other news" and discussion. Perhaps it goes into the abyss that is page 2 and beyond, but it is worth a try.

Some guidelines:
- Try to find the "clean link", so that links to the news site directly and not a social media site. Avoid "amp-links" (google).
- Write some cliff notes on what it is about, especially if it is a video.
- It's not an excuse to make outlandish claims via proxy or link extremist content.
- If it's an editorial or opinion piece, it is polite to mark it as such.
- Note the language if it is not in English.
- There is no demand that such things be posted here, if you think a piece merits its own thread, then make one.

12 October 2020 at 08:13 AM
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by StoppedRainingMen P

NBC making the conscious decision to whitewash Ronna McDaniel is one of the more sickening media decisions I’ve seen in a minute

Yeah I was shocked by that as well Chuck Todd lambasted them on MTP.

MSNBC has now said she will not appear on their channel


by Luciom P

tbh I have no reason to think that court is more corrupt than others, but keep in mind there isn't only one cassazione, rather 6 civil and 7 penal sections.

only in very rare cases it decides per curiam with all sections together ("a sezioni unite").

every section is 5 judges.

given the sheer number of cases they touch, and the small size of the bench (compared to a normal supreme court, like our constitutional court is 15 judges), the odd of

I thought Italy didn't have double jeopardy? Cassazione have also at the 11th hour used civil judges from the 5th circuit to preside over criminal cases, instead of from the first circuit. Just seems very topsy turvy and arbitrary. If Cassazione can view evidence again then that seems to be at best a systemic flaw as again it defeats the purpose of first instance trials/second level appeals.


by corpus vile P

I thought Italy didn't have double jeopardy? Cassazione have also at the 11th hour used civil judges from the 5th circuit to preside over criminal cases, instead of from the first circuit. Just seems very topsy turvy and arbitrary. If Cassazione can view evidence again then that seems to be at best a systemic flaw as again it defeats the purpose of first instance trials/second level appeals.

We do after a full course of trials/appeals for both sides.

Afaik cassazione can't claim "given this evidence the decision should have been different" but they can tell prosecutors the evidence has been wrongly collected or stuff like that


by Luciom P

We do after a full course of trials/appeals for both sides.

Afaik cassazione can't claim "given this evidence the decision should have been different" but they can tell prosecutors the evidence has been wrongly collected or stuff like that

Yeah but they're only authorised to remand a case back to the second level appellate court, if they don't uphold a conviction, not to acquit, yet they've done this at least twice. Again it just seems arbitrary and I suspect it's deliberate, and I think your mention of Berlusconi applies here also.


by Dunyain P

You are right. The Democratic Party of Chicago has no history of corruption, and only an avid Trump supporter would suggest such a thing is even possible.

that's all you got? chicago? the city 80% of the mob movies are made about? it's all so shocking chicago was/is/are/they/them corrupt.

all so shocking.

anything else?


by tame_deuces P

In the current news climate we see that some figures and events tend to dominate the front-pages heavily. Still, there are important, interesting or just plain weird things happening out there and a group of people can find these better than one.

I thought I would test with a thread for linking general news articles about "other news" and discussion. Perhaps it goes into the abyss that is page 2 and beyond, but it is worth a try.


Diddy on the RUN is a plain weird happening. Houses being raided by "Homeland Security" Haha wtf, is he in ISIS? Also interesting... he I guess, fled to the carribean... well bro if homeland security / fbi is after you.... that ain't gonna cut it. Need to make it to Russia or North Korea buddy. Run Diddy Run. Whatever you did, you got more heat on you than Gotti had. Story developing....


nutty af

Heard some speculation that it was human trafficking? Who knows


A bridge hit by a boat in Baltimore has collapsed


Damn, that's a really long interstate bridge across the wider part of the harbor. I guess it would have been worse if it had been hit at a busier time of day, but apparently a lot of cars were still on it and it's being called a "mass casualty event". Hard for me to imagine almost the entire bridge coming down because a cargo ship hit one of the several towers. They shouldn't be going very fast there either. Wikipedia has already been changed to say it "was" a bridge.


by chillrob P

Damn, that's a really long interstate bridge across the wider part of the harbor. I guess it would have been worse if it had been hit at a busier time of day, but apparently a lot of cars were still on it and it's being called a "mass casualty event". Hard for me to imagine almost the entire bridge coming down because a cargo ship hit one of the several towers. They shouldn't be going very fast there either. Wikipedia has already been c

It never fails to amaze me how quickly Wikipedia gets updated when something happens, whether it's the score/result in a sports event, a celebrity death, an indictment being unsealed against someone or whatever else. It's like there is an army of people watching every single event happening worldwide waiting to update it.


Well, now I read that there was at least 7 vehicles, including a semi-truck, that went into the water. Hopefully not many more than that and it won't really have what I would consider mass casualties. This will really mess up the roads though, and until it is cleaned up I assume no ships will be able to get to the very busy Baltimore harbor. The bridge took over 4 years to build.

It was an unusual type of bridge, the third longest of its type in the world, a "continuous through truss bridge". I don't know much about bridge architecture, but I think this type was easier to collapse from hitting just one of the support towers. The ship caught on fire after the crash.


by d2_e4 P

It never fails to amaze me how quickly Wikipedia gets updated when something happens, whether it's the score/result in a sports event, a celebrity death, an indictment being unsealed against someone or whatever else. It's like there is an army of people watching every single event happening worldwide waiting to update it.

Well in this case a news event happens, people then go the wiki page to learn about the bridge and changing an 'is' to a 'was' is a simple edit.


*footage is nuts. Imagine driving along a bridge getting off work or something and then the next second you're falling and then in some frigid water trying to escape your rapidly sinking vehicle. Hopefully some people made it out.



Watching news and a tv view of collapsed bridge in the water, they are showing a live shot of water and .... that current looks strong as hell. Don't know how one can survive that. Maybe just float on back and go with it if you can stay at the surface.

That gif is sped up, it collapsed slower than that.


by chillrob P

They shouldn't be going very fast there either.

i think they believe it was actually the opposite of this. it was going too slow to be able to turn without power.


Started following this channel a while back to understand what was going on with the Houthi stuff. Sounds like the ship lost power, but they don't know why it lost power yet.


ISIS just claimed responsibility


by Slighted P

i think they believe it was actually the opposite of this. it was going too slow to be able to turn without power.

I would have thought the bridge would have been built strong enough to survive a slow boat. Really odd.


by Victor P

ISIS just claimed responsibility

Nice


If it was a fully loaded cargo ship the amount of momentum that it would have had would have been immense even at a slow speed.


by chillrob P

I would have thought the bridge would have been built strong enough to survive a slow boat. Really odd.

I studied linguistics so take this with the appropriate grains of salt, but when you have something weighing 250,000 lbs (or whatever) hitting an immovable object then I don't think the speed matters that much.


Kinda deja vu if you live where I live (although I wasn't here then)

https://www.fox13news.com/news/sunshine-...


by Luckbox Inc P

I studied linguistics so take this with the appropriate grains of salt, but when you have something weighing 250,000 lbs (or whatever) hitting an immovable object then I don't think the speed matters that much.

slightly more weight than that but, yeah. i think low estimates put it at 95,000 tons and higher ones put it at 115,000 tons.


by Victor P

ISIS just claimed responsibility

ISIS claimed responsibility for the pizza I burned this weekend. ISIS loves claiming responsibility for things that make the infidels upset.


What are all the small explosions on the bridge just before it came down? Even if they have wires in the structure for the aviation lights, would it cause an explosion of that magnitude if the wires broke?

All you need to do is pause this video (before it's removed that is) frame by frame. Are there any electrical engineers itt that can explain it?

https://www.fox5dc.com/video/1431205






I know about the electricity and can confirm it was a controlled demolition. Spread the word.


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