Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

Think this merits its own thread...

Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

AM YISRAEL CHAI.


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07 October 2023 at 09:33 PM
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by Victor P

this is why people post things about the PTSD of Israeli children while ignoring the murdered Palestinian children who have been beheaded, buried alive, and burned alive.

Subtle lol.

I personally haven't seen any people posting in the described manner, I must have missed it.

What I have noticed and has been disturbing is some extremists seeing stances like "no child should suffer a rocket attack" and calling it "disgusting" multiple times, including after it was described in pretty much this exact manner, leaving no room for confusion.


Netanyahu cancels Israeli delegation to US over UN Gaza vote


https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-eas...

"It's disappointing. We're very disappointed that they won't be coming to Washington DC to allow us to have a fulsome conversation with them about viable alternatives to them going in on the ground in Rafah."

“Nothing has changed about our view that a major ground offensive in Rafah would be a major mistake,” Kirby said.

This guy is not capable of thinking past the next 15 minutes.


by Bluegrassplayer P

Netanyahu cancels Israeli delegation to US over UN Gaza vote


https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-eas...

This guy is not capable of thinking past the next 15 minutes.


The US just needs Israel to take it easy until after the election then whatever party wins it doesn't matter they can go crazy. Netànyahu trying to help by pretending to be upset as he understands the game.


Netanyahu is just exercising the will of the people of Israel. its a totally brainwashed and depraved society on the level that we have never seen before.


Israel won't (probably can't) "take it easy" until November imo.


ofc they cant. they indoctrinated multiple generations to hate. could the Nazis take it easy?


Trump knows it’s a losing play to not back Israel.


by Victor P

ofc they cant. they indoctrinated multiple generations to hate. could the Nazis take it easy?

I feel like your whole view of Israeli society comes from watching Tiktoks.

I've had the opportunity to meet a number of them in South America and while admittedly the South American travelling crowd is going to be rather different than those not travelling South America, I don't get the impression that they are a bunch of warmongers.

(unlike say New Zealanders who would probably bite your jugular right out if you fed them enough beer-- hopefully I'm allowed to say that)


by Luckbox Inc P

I feel like your whole view of Israeli society comes from watching Tiktoks.

I've had the opportunity to meet a number of them in South America and while admittedly the South American travelling crowd is going to be rather different than those not travelling South America, I don't get the impression that they are a bunch of warmongers.

(unlike say New Zealanders who would probably bite your jugular right out if you fed them enough beer-- hopef

Israeli tiktoks. Israeli media. and Israeli polls that say 85-95% of Jewish Israelis support this genocide or think its not enough.

I am sure they are nice enough people when traveling. just like the Germans were.


by Bluegrassplayer P

Israel won't (probably can't) "take it easy" until November imo.

Well they probably want the GOP back in power but they don't want to completely burn their bridges with the Democrats either.


by Victor P

Israeli tiktoks. Israeli media. and Israeli polls that say 85-95% of Jewish Israelis support this genocide or think its not enough.

I am sure they are nice enough people when traveling. just like the Germans were.

Germans and Venezuelans are my two favorite sets of people not counting Dutch girls.


perfectly nice people support genocide. theres a famous quote about it.


by Victor P

perfectly nice people support genocide. theres a famous quote about it.

Everyone is susceptible to propaganda and groupthink. It's not a uniquely Israeli problem.


by Victor P

Hamas is not a puppet regime. they are a resistance force.

Personally, I can understand the hatred that the Palestinians would have and it wouldn't surprise me to see myself fighting along side hamas if I were born and raised under those circumstances. But I really think that there is some outside financial depravity thats targeting a vulnerable group of people. Too many things aren't clicking together accordingly imo.


by Victor P

Netanyahu is just exercising the will of the people of Israel. its a totally brainwashed and depraved society on the level that we have never seen before.

lol

Vic's thesis, everyone.


by Schlitz mmmm P

lol

Vic's thesis, everyone.

Isn't yours "bomb em all Bibs"?


by Schlitz mmmm P

Good riddance. Kill em all, Bibi.

close


yawn


I'm not Israeli, and I don't care to win points in some bs game of diplomacy, couching the terms in what's deemed acceptable.


by formula72 P

Personally, I can understand the hatred that the Palestinians would have and it wouldn't surprise me to see myself fighting along side hamas if I were born and raised under those circumstances. But I really think that there is some outside financial depravity thats targeting a vulnerable group of people. Too many things aren't clicking together accordingly imo.

I just don think that the financial supporters are dictating the actions of Hamas. If Iran or whoever told them to stop resisting then I dont believe they would stop.


You pretentious posers can't comprehend their circumstance. The end. You're unfit to opine

And all you crave is an opinion on the matter


by Schlitz mmmm P

I'm not Israeli, and I don't care to win points in some bs game of diplomacy, couching the terms in what's deemed acceptable.

I think the point is that if you're going to make fun of Victor's rhetoric then you should probably make sure that your own isn't worse.


I feel about blacks as vic feels about Israelis


by Schlitz mmmm P

I feel about blacks as vic feels about Israelis

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by Schlitz mmmm P

I feel about blacks as vic feels about Israelis


What a word to use


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