Moderation Questions and General Chat Thread
The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic failed, and it became a general discussion thread with almost no moderation related posts at all. And those that were posted were so buried in non-mod posts that it became a huge time drain on the mods to sort through them. Then, when off topic posts were deleted posters complained about that.
This led to the closing of the mod discussion thread, replaced by the post report/pm approach. This has filtered out lots of noise, but has resulted at times in the General Discussion Thread turning into a quasi-mod thread. This is not desirable, but going back to the old mod thread is also not a workable option.
Therefore, I have created this new moderation thread, but with a different purpose and ground rules than previous mod threads. The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for posters to pose questions to the mods about how policies are applied; to bring to the mods attention posts they think are inappropriate and reach the level of requiring mod action; and for mods to communicate to posters things like changes or clarifications to policies, bannings, etc.
Now let me tell you what this thread is NOT a place for. It is not for nonmoderation related posts, even if the discussion originates from a comment in in a mod related post. It is not for posters to post their opinions about other posters or whether a poster should be banned. It is not to rehash past grievances about mod decisions from months or years ago. The focus of this thread will be recent posts that require action now. Or questions about current policies and enforcement.
So basically, this is a thread to ask mods questions. Which means, pretty much that only mods should be answering those questions. If a poster asks why a particular post was deleted or allowed, only a mod can answer that. Everyone else who wants to jump in with their opinion or their mod war story needs to stay out of it. It just increases the noise to signal ratio and does nothing to answer the question.
Everyone needs to understand that this thread has very different rules than the old mod thread and any other thread. Any non-moderation post will be deleted on sight. Not moved to the appropriate thread, just deleted. So don't waste your time crafting a masterpiece post about wars or transgender issues or the presidential election and then post it in this thread. It will be gone. Also, this isnt a thread for general commentary about our mods performance. Posting "browser sucks as a mod" or any such posts that don't actually ask about a policy or request a mod action will be deleted. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about the moderation of this forum. But this thread isnt for complaining about mods. You are free to go to the ATF forum and make your concerns about modding in this forum there.
So with that intro, this thread is open for those who need to bring questions about mod policies or bring inappropriate posts to the mods attention. Again, it is NOT a thread for group discussions about other posters or for other posters to answer questions directed to mods.
We'll see how this goes. If you have what you feel is an open issue raised in the General Discussion Thread, please copy that post or otherwise reintroduce the issue here.
Thanks.
Well, my brain doesn’t process this as a serious response, probably because my social skills are higher than the other posters in this forum.
But being generous and approaching it as a serious response, I could never imagine thinking a text or post that begins with the phrase “ the list is endless, some things that pop into my head without relitigating the past..” would mean the texter or poster meant to make an authoritative list rather th
list is so endless you start it with a completely fabricated lie against me, mentioning everyone else was fine with what you described as excusing rape, which is a strong hint that you see sexism and in general you read content in a way that is disaligned with that of the vast majority of people so maybe that is the problem, not necessarily purported sexism (which clearly might have happened in the past, but almost certainly not to the extent you describe).
that's also corroborated by every interaction with you in the actual threads about other topics.
It sometimes inelegant in context and being nicer is not one of my goals in that scenario. Also, it changes the meaning: if everything someone says is idiotic, then that's nicely encompassed by calling him or her an idiot.
It takes someone really smart to only say idiotic thing.
It's like never backing the winner in a horse race.
lol rekt
list is so endless you start it with a completely fabricated lie against me, mentioning everyone else was fine with what you described as excusing rape, which is a strong hint that you see sexism and in general you read content in a way that is disaligned with that of the vast majority of people so maybe that is the problem, not necessarily purported sexism (which clearly might have happened in the past, but almost certainly not to the exte
This you?
rape allegations have been abused since forever to destroy people and i won't believe any unless it comes from a person I personally know and trust, if there is no direct unassailable evidence.
“any”
While it's a pretty stupid position, it doesn't come close to "excusing rape". That's a pretty hefty accusation to make, and so far you haven't come close to backing it up.
how is that an endorsement of rape??? not believing purported victims unless there is proof is not ENDORSING THE ACT if it actually happened ffs.
Btw i also clarified the statement was related to famous people or other accusations where blaming someone or a group has a political effect.
How do you jump from "you shouldn't believe accusations of rape not corroborated by objective evidence when moved against a famous person or a politically relevant person or group" to "Luciom excuses rape", what's even the logical sequitur there, how can you move from A to B, there is no connection.
And btw, given i clearly didn't excuse rape in the quote you cited, i am waiting for a full apology for you claiming that i did excuse rape, which is a heinous fabricated accusation with no merits.
While it's a pretty stupid position, it doesn't come close to "excusing rape". That's a pretty hefty accusation to make, and so far you haven't come close to backing it up.
Ye it is stupid to require actual evidence besides a witness statement to believe a crime actually occurred, except that's how all normal countries do in trials.
I hate to break it to you, but seeing misogyny where none exists and being perpetually offended on behalf of others is a sign of neither maturity nor elevated social skills. Your list is laughable, and your attitude of being unwilling to debate it because the point is self-evident in your mind, despite being told you're wrong by virtually everyone ITT is even more so.
Ye it is stupid to require actual evidence besides a witness statement to believe a crime actually occurred, except that's how all normal countries do in trials.
"Actual evidence" and "direct unassailable evidence" are different standards, but you knew that. You take a lot of absolutist positions on a variety of topics which I think is stupid in almost every case.
I have unpinned the moderation question thread. It never needed to be pinned in the first place and all it does in practice is turn the thread into a second low content thread.
2p2s sexism is unacceptable. It is also normal. I see this kinda talk and way worse at almost every corner of the internet
Women are murdered by men like all the time, it’s shameful to make fun of a woman for mentioning a place is a safe space.
Bars are some of the most sexist places I’ve ever been. Of course men are going to treat women nicely there and try to buy them drinks to get laid. And of course women are going to exploit men for their money and attention. It’s an incredible sexist place that benefits one sex over the other.
Bars are some of the most sexist places I’ve ever been. Of course men are going to treat women nicely there and try to buy them drinks to get laid. And of course women are going to exploit men for their money and attention. It’s an incredible sexist place that benefits one sex over the other.
From your description it sounds like symbiosis. Which sex does it benefit over the other and how?
Maybe we could start addressing the issue by banning the problematic posters. I remember, for example, there was this one guy who started a whole thread suggesting that the government should pay for his hookers. That seems pretty sexist on a few different levels.
Maybe we could start addressing the issue by banning the problematic posters. I remember, for example, there was this one guy who started a whole thread suggesting that the government should pay for his hookers. That seems pretty sexist on a few different levels.
wheres the sexism? what do you think sexism means?
women benefit over men due to free drinks, easier access to achieve their goals. have you ever been to a bar?
Some hot takes there PW, good stuff.
Well, my brain doesn’t process this as a serious response, probably because my social skills are higher than the other posters in this forum.
But being generous and approaching it as a serious response, I could never imagine thinking a text or post that begins with the phrase “ the list is endless, some things that pop into my head without relitigating the past..” would mean the texter or poster meant to make an authoritative list rather th
Well we certainly interpret things much differently as we are about as opposite as two people can be - which is obviously fine and i dont mean that in any disrespect. Im going to put you on ignore because these conversations are idiotic and i just dont think its helpful to anyone.
I hate to break it to you, but seeing misogyny where none exists and being perpetually offended on behalf of others is a sign of neither maturity nor elevated social skills. Your list is laughable, and your attitude of being unwilling to debate it because the point is self-evident in your mind, despite being told you're wrong by virtually everyone ITT is even more so.
Well we certainly interpret things much differently as we are about as opposite as two people can be - which is obviously fine and i dont mean that in any disrespect. Im going to put you on ignore because these conversations are idiotic and i just dont think its helpful to anyone.
It should be noted you guys don’t actully want free speech. You want a safe space to act like children. in a way most people would never tolerate.
If you disagree with Bryce, it means that you oppose free speech. Don't try to argue that point, as it is self-evident. At least it would be to somebody that has the necessary high social skills.
It should be noted you guys don’t actully want free speech. You want a safe space to act like children. in a way most people would never tolerate.
In a shocking twist, man who claims that sexism is criticising any woman for basically anything is now claiming it's everyone else who wants safe spaces.
This has **** all to do with free speech or safe spaces and everything to do with you making a mountain out of a molehill to score some virtue signaling points or for whatever other motive you might have.
Where are all these people who wouldn't tolerate the things on your list (except #1, which turned out to be a lie)? I've not seen any round here or IRL, male or female.
