[GGPoker]: Natural8, etc

[GGPoker]: Natural8, etc

Anybody heard of this site? If yes, how is it?

15 March 2016 at 06:59 AM
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by Pauler606 P

I was thinking about cash games. There are sites that give some results from reg tables (not 100% accurate but still some info). I think that it was mentioned by Fedor that all datamining/hh collecting entities are blocked but it is very sad and concerning you cant see and get rough idea if anybody is winning in the games.

I'm only guessing here, but it sounds like Fedor might have been referring to the recent update to their "Security & Ecology Policy." The relevant section below:

"[You are not allowed to use] Any tools or services that facilitate the accumulation of a hand history database and enables Mass Data Analysis (MDA) including, but not limited to, Hand2Note, PokerTracker or Holdem Manager."

This addition has caused a bit of a stir, since it's not clear exactly what is being prohibited here. Previously these tools were allowed, are they prohibited now? Are you only prohibited from using these tools during play? Why would they still allow you to download hand histories if you can't use the information they provide?

Some people have raised these questions on the reddit site and to support, and the responses given haven't been clear on the level of prohibition intended. Some people have asked the tool providers for clarification and they haven't gotten a clear response yet either as far as I can tell.


I was banned from GG years ago for no reason, they refuse to give me a reaosn or reopen the account, I can only asusme bumhunting. I want to play here though just for fun for higher buyin mtts on a Sunday/festival, will another skin/provider allow me to do this? How else can I play on here again?


by PaulyJames200x P

There is no issue creating a gg account and then not depositing until a much later time period right? You should get verified with them first before depositing?

Is there any negative from using an affiliate code when registering? People said that is not good idea a while back with agents but say you are using a big site like rakerace or raketherace, there is no harm in doing that right?


no downside of course


But it would be a bit more safer using a big affiliate as oppose to an agent code when registering right?


Do people here verify their gg account first before depositing? How long does that take?


by PaulyJames200x P

But it would be a bit more safer using a big affiliate as oppose to an agent code when registering right?


Do people here verify their gg account first before depositing? How long does that take?

I verified after depositing (easier to do it all at once) and it was a few hours I think.


by PaulyJames200x P

But it would be a bit more safer using a big affiliate as oppose to an agent code when registering right?


Do people here verify their gg account first before depositing? How long does that take?


tiny bit more safe. but chances are also that they violate the rules of advertising and then they lose the benefits and its often not possible to recover that for your account

regarding that is up to you. could take up to 1 week


I hate GG Poker. Because the community cards are being dealt in a way that violates statistics. For instance, a player hitting a Gutshot on the flop has around a 16% chance of making a straight (until the river). However, on GG, this probability is close to 50%. Short stack and fish players are winning way too many hands. When I used to play on PokerStars, I had a higher BB/100 value. I'm playing on GG now because access to other platforms is not allowed in my country. If I find an alternative place, I will leave GG immediately.


by ferruhgev P

I hate GG Poker. Because the community cards are being dealt in a way that violates statistics. For instance, a player hitting a Gutshot on the flop has around a 16% chance of making a straight (until the river). However, on GG, this probability is close to 50%. Short stack and fish players are winning way too many hands. When I used to play on PokerStars, I had a higher BB/100 value. I'm playing on GG now because access to other platforms

Is there a reason why you don't play like a shorstacked fish and print untill you can play other sites? Makes no sense when you know the solution for winning. That is just stupid people things.


Are there any agents for GGpokerUK, looking for a deal there? turns out ggpoker and Betkings are unavailable to UK players and one of those was where I was about to sign up.


by reddev P

Are there any agents for GGpokerUK, looking for a deal there? turns out ggpoker and Betkings are unavailable to UK players and one of those was where I was about to sign up.

Seems like I am actually looking for an affiliate deal as want to be using a normal account.


by reddev P

Are there any agents for GGpokerUK, looking for a deal there? turns out ggpoker and Betkings are unavailable to UK players and one of those was where I was about to sign up.


GGpoker is only available through the UK version


by ImePaskaa P

Like I said on the website it states : up to 50% not flat 50%. And in the tos there is something about pvi and sheet for the strd buffet. So they don't actually lie it's just pretty shady way to promote it. Kind of having huge sales on black friday.


was planning on trying to run this promo, but im getting way less than 50% and seems tough to win with rake, will stick to my normal game stars


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This is another nice scam by riGGed poker



^ and how so? They give away free cash as far as im aware.


they write that they give 50k per day, but never actually give 50k 😃 it is the reason why they write "up to" so they can give 10k per day and they will be in safe position that they dont lie 😃 same as with fish buffet.

I played 15k hands and got 10bb back 😃


by 10najkrajsi P

they write that they give 50k per day, but never actually give 50k 😃 it is the reason why they write "up to" so they can give 10k per day and they will be in safe position that they dont lie 😃 same as with fish buffet.

I played 15k hands and got 10bb back 😃

I will never understand people like you. It states on the promotion it's not 50k it is up to 50k daily and somehow you manage to turn this in your little head : THIS IS A SCAM. Sometimes I feel people use products they hate so they can complain it to others. Makes no sense.


by ImePaskaa P

I will never understand people like you. It states on the promotion it's not 50k it is up to 50k daily and somehow you manage to turn this in your little head : THIS IS A SCAM. Sometimes I feel people use products they hate so they can complain it to others. Makes no sense.


The big title at the top says 50k, not up to 50k. Seems unfair at least yes. If they wanted they could give 10$ per day this way. Would that be fair after advertising it with a big 50000$ sign?


Looks like people got so comfortable with the generous rakeback offers at other major operators like Pokerstars over the last couple of years, that GGpoker offering LB+GGcare+random promotional money on top of an already decent RB system can't really please them in comparison.

(In case you are wondering, yes I am being sarcastic).


by FunnyBunny.H P


(In case you are wondering, yes I am being sarcastic).


I knew it as soon as i read this:

by FunnyBunny.H P

GGpoker offering... decent RB system


I didn't say great/perfect for a reason.

People seem to forget, Pokerstars used to actually offer 1-2% RB for well over a year for winning players (beside all the other scummy things they did in the last decade) just because they had an absolute monopoly on the market, and they were juicing it to the absolute maximum. It's one of the biggest reason why their site is dying recent years, the constant mistreatment of their own players in favour of short-term profit.

Yes GGpoker has PVI, and even with PVI in place, the rakeback is decent. It's unfortunate that it's not transparent how it's calculated, but they still offer reasonable amount with it. And that is not taking Leaderboards and GGcare/other promotions into count, which in total is more than comparable with a site such as Stars. (Reminder Stars only recently adjusted their RB system because of how hard they are bleeding traffic, and even with their latest attempt, it's not great by any means - it actually cut RB for a lot of low-stakes players).

The main difference is, instead of pushing stacks in the nitty reg-fest games of Stars (if games are even running), you actually have great action on GG.


Anyone ever find that their balance on GGpoker doesnt quite seem to go up compared to your session stats? Pokercraft has me up 28 big blinds for this session but GGPoker paid me 3 big blinds. Rake cant be the difference given I was only paid 2bb rakeback @50%. I noticed it looking a bit odd the other day and thought perhaps a buyin was still to be released back to my funds as it does in pokerstars.


You pay rake as high as 12-22BB per 100 hand, 6max games can be 12-15BB and 9max 15-22BB depends how you play and how often you 3bet etc so we can all agree that rake is absurdly high

Cashback can be 20-25% with PVI

From leaderboards and all bonuses combined you can get up to 10BB per 100 hand

There are many recreational players around so games can be very profitable

To sum up: you pay average 15BB per 100 hand rake, you get 10BB back from bonuses and + cashback 23% + possibility to play with recreational players

Worth it? in my opinion yes but...

I have some doubts, conspiration theories... i faced so much bad luck i believe that online poker can be rigged, imagine you run #1 poker site where 500k+ players are playing, it would be perfect for that site if winners win less and losers lose less so everyone would be playing without going busto fast, i believe it can be programmed in the code somehow, so site rakes them to the death but to get rich would be exceptionally hard, you will run around cycles like a mouse thats what i felt playing on GG for months


by blazar P

You pay rake as high as 12-22BB per 100 hand, 6max games can be 12-15BB and 9max 15-22BB depends how you play and how often you 3bet etc so we can all agree that rake is absurdly high

Cashback can be 20-25% with PVI

From leaderboards and all bonuses combined you can get up to 10BB per 100 hand

There are many recreational players around so games can be very profitable

To sum up: you pay average 15BB per 100 hand rake, you get 10BB back from bon

You were so close to having a great and informative post, only to do a 180 at the end, and start rambling about how online might be rigged. Still good effort though!


still down? getting errordenied

same for others?


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