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In other news

In the current news climate we see that some figures and events tend to dominate the front-pages heavily. Still, there are important, interesting or just plain weird things happening out there and a group of people can find these better than one.

I thought I would test with a thread for linking general news articles about "other news" and discussion. Perhaps it goes into the abyss that is page 2 and beyond, but it is worth a try.

Some guidelines:
- Try to find the "clean link", so that links to the news site directly and not a social media site. Avoid "amp-links" (google).
- Write some cliff notes on what it is about, especially if it is a video.
- It's not an excuse to make outlandish claims via proxy or link extremist content.
- If it's an editorial or opinion piece, it is polite to mark it as such.
- Note the language if it is not in English.
- There is no demand that such things be posted here, if you think a piece merits its own thread, then make one.

12 October 2020 at 08:13 AM
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by Luciom P

why do you think that, both countries had less racial violence than what happened with BLM in the USA in 2020

Despite there being much less protesting and violence, both countries seem much more prone to respond with draconian authoritarian measures, at least to combat "right wing" movements.


by Luckbox Inc P

I think it's simpler than that and that they just want to keep people divided. Perhaps at one point in time a little pre-Trump they had dreams of fomenting civil war but I doubt they see that as realistic.

Fair enough. At the minimum certainly not until they can take away all the guns. No point in formenting a civil war you are likely to lose.


by Dunyain P

Fair enough. At the minimum certainly not until they can take away all the guns. No point in formenting a civil war you are likely to lose.

If the elites are trying to take away all the guns then their decision making of the last 10 years has been rather poor.


by campfirewest P

The only problem is people like me who will fill in nonsense. Or will they just not count the Polish / Iranian / Tongans?

I'm wondering if there will be an option for "don't know and don't care".


by Dunyain P

Despite there being much less protesting and violence, both countries seem much more prone to respond with draconian authoritarian measures, at least to combat "right wing" movements.

they simply don't have the first amendment, but they did the same when the right was culturally dominant and the enemy was leftwing (think what the UK did to the suffragettes)


by Dunyain P

I have heard it argued that there is a conspiratorial effort by elites to create racial discord as a pre-condition to justify authoritarian takeover to ostensibly mitigate the discord. Are you of the opinion something like this may be going on, where we can see countries like Canada and UK that are further along in this stratagem.

Where did you hear this argued? Let me guess "Many people, the best people, have said"...


They go into climate change and talk about the anticipated doubling of the number of wars, with half the resources we currently associate with a war effort.


Taliban to bring back public stoning to death of women
https://www.theguardian.com/global-devel...

In an audio broadcast on the Taliban-controlled Radio Television Afghanistan last Saturday, Akhundzada said: “We will flog the women … we will stone them to death in public [for adultery]. “You may call it a violation of women’s rights when we publicly stone or flog them for committing adultery because they conflict with your democratic principles,” he said, adding: “[But] I represent Allah, and you represent Satan.

...Can't argue with that.


according to experts on the left it's impossible to determine if that human group that allows that is better or worse than us


by corpus vile P

Taliban to bring back public stoning to death of women
https://www.theguardian.com/global-devel...

...Can't argue with that.

These people, if they can be called that, are ****ing disgusting.


sensible policies for a brighter tomorrow


by Luciom P

according to experts on the left it's impossible to determine if that human group that allows that is better or worse than us

there only like that because of colonialism/the white man.


by d2_e4 P

These people, if they can be called that, are ****ing disgusting.

So can we ban immigration from Afghanistan to any civilized country for the next 20 years until we figure out how to be absolutely certain not a single person who is like that comes in?

Because we really really really don't want anyone like that to be able to enter our countries right? Right?

Do you see my point now?


by Luciom P

So can we ban immigration from Afghanistan to any civilized country for the next 20 years until we figure out how to be absolutely certain not a single person who is like that comes in?

Because we really really really don't want anyone like that to be able to enter our countries right? Right?

Do you see my point now?

Not really, no. I imagine that the people who support that sort of thing don't want to emigrate to the godless West.

ETA: I'd certainly be granting asylum to any women seeking to flee that regime.


Turkey's main opposition party has claimed big election victories in the main cities of Istanbul and Ankara.

The results are a significant blow for Recep Tayyip Erdogan, who had hoped to regain control of the cities less than a year after he claimed a third term as president.

He led the campaign to win in Istanbul, where he grew up and became mayor.

But Ekrem Imamoglu, who first won the city in 2019, scored a second victory for the secular opposition CHP.

Mr Erdogan had vowed a new era in Turkey's megacity of almost 16 million people, but the incumbent mayor of Istanbul was on course to win more than 50% of the vote, over 10 points ahead of the president's AK Party candidate.

This was also the first time since Mr Erdogan came to power 21 years ago that his party was defeated across the country at the ballot box.

In the capital Ankara, opposition mayor Mansur Yavas was so far ahead of his rival on 59% that he declared victory when less than half the votes were in. Supporters blocked all the main roads in the city, waving flags and sounding their car horns.

Significantly, the CHP was also on course to win in many of Turkey's other big cities, including Izmir and Bursa, Adana and the resort of Antalya.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-...


by sublime P

there only like that because of colonialism/the white man.

was the gov stoning women when the Soviets were influencing them?


by Victor P

was the gov stoning women when the Soviets were influencing them?

i would assume that they were.


by sublime P

i would assume that they were.

well not really. the communist gov was obv opposed to the tribal feudal Sharia villages. you can probably guess which side the USA sent a ton of weapons and money to. its kinda why the Taliban exists today and is beheading women!

in other words, to your initial joke: unironically yes thats what happened!


by Victor P

well not really. the communist gov was obv opposed to the tribal feudal Sharia villages. you can probably guess which side the USA sent a ton of weapons and money to. its kinda why the Taliban exists today and is beheading women!

in other words, to your initial joke: unironically yes thats what happened!

what makes you think it was a joke? i have been re-educated enough to know the western white man is to blame for everything.


by sublime P

what makes you think it was a joke? i have been re-educated enough to know the western white man is to blame for everything.

Yeah it’s not the thinking of the talibans that is the problem , it is where they get the weapons .

Pure victor shtick .
The 80s was the ending of the cold war that was very alive and victor don’t understand the enemy of my ennemi is my friend .
And Russia as an ennemi was far more dangerous than the talibans …


by d2_e4 P

Not really, no. I imagine that the people who support that sort of thing don't want to emigrate to the godless West.

ETA: I'd certainly be granting asylum to any women seeking to flee that regime.

Sure because no one ever wants to enter an enemy country disguising his preferences to maximize the damage he can deal later on to that enemy.


by Luciom P

Sure because no one ever wants to enter an enemy country disguising his preferences to maximize the damage he can deal later on to that enemy.

Well I suppose if you view everyone around you who looks (or thinks) differently to you as enemies hellbent on destroying you, then your view makes sense. What a horrible way to live your life though.


by d2_e4 P

Well I suppose if you view everyone around you who looks (or thinks) differently to you as enemies hellbent on destroying you, then your view makes sense. What a horrible way to live your life though.

Not everyone, just people coming from countries that are completely out of whack culturally with ours and where most people have horrific moral preferences


by Luciom P

Not everyone, just people coming from countries that are completely out of whack culturally with ours and where most people have horrific moral preferences

Seems like the vast majority of them assimilate pretty easily and certainly by the second generation are very much culturally in tune with their host country. Sure, there are outliers, but I imagine the vast majority don't fit your description. The ones who want to love under Sharia law don't want to live in the West anyway.

Sure, there are some terrorists who get through under false pretenses as you describe. Is it your view that as long as Islamic terrorism exists that nobody from certain Muslim majority countries should be allowed to emigrate to Europe or North America?


by sublime P

what makes you think it was a joke? i have been re-educated enough to know the western white man is to blame for everything.

this is why the culture war woke agenda is bullshit. its meant to obscure. its meant to create and cultivate reactionary ideas. and its only end goal and result is that we now get to fight over if we should have trans generals and lesbian spokespeople in the white house and trans people doing war crimes. if we get those things, then the good guys win. Biden has those now! and if you vote for Trump then we wont have equality in who murders poor foreigners. it will only be white men.


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