Moderation Questions and General Chat Thread
The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic failed, and it became a general discussion thread with almost no moderation related posts at all. And those that were posted were so buried in non-mod posts that it became a huge time drain on the mods to sort through them. Then, when off topic posts were deleted posters complained about that.
This led to the closing of the mod discussion thread, replaced by the post report/pm approach. This has filtered out lots of noise, but has resulted at times in the General Discussion Thread turning into a quasi-mod thread. This is not desirable, but going back to the old mod thread is also not a workable option.
Therefore, I have created this new moderation thread, but with a different purpose and ground rules than previous mod threads. The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for posters to pose questions to the mods about how policies are applied; to bring to the mods attention posts they think are inappropriate and reach the level of requiring mod action; and for mods to communicate to posters things like changes or clarifications to policies, bannings, etc.
Now let me tell you what this thread is NOT a place for. It is not for nonmoderation related posts, even if the discussion originates from a comment in in a mod related post. It is not for posters to post their opinions about other posters or whether a poster should be banned. It is not to rehash past grievances about mod decisions from months or years ago. The focus of this thread will be recent posts that require action now. Or questions about current policies and enforcement.
So basically, this is a thread to ask mods questions. Which means, pretty much that only mods should be answering those questions. If a poster asks why a particular post was deleted or allowed, only a mod can answer that. Everyone else who wants to jump in with their opinion or their mod war story needs to stay out of it. It just increases the noise to signal ratio and does nothing to answer the question.
Everyone needs to understand that this thread has very different rules than the old mod thread and any other thread. Any non-moderation post will be deleted on sight. Not moved to the appropriate thread, just deleted. So don't waste your time crafting a masterpiece post about wars or transgender issues or the presidential election and then post it in this thread. It will be gone. Also, this isnt a thread for general commentary about our mods performance. Posting "browser sucks as a mod" or any such posts that don't actually ask about a policy or request a mod action will be deleted. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about the moderation of this forum. But this thread isnt for complaining about mods. You are free to go to the ATF forum and make your concerns about modding in this forum there.
So with that intro, this thread is open for those who need to bring questions about mod policies or bring inappropriate posts to the mods attention. Again, it is NOT a thread for group discussions about other posters or for other posters to answer questions directed to mods.
We'll see how this goes. If you have what you feel is an open issue raised in the General Discussion Thread, please copy that post or otherwise reintroduce the issue here.
Thanks.
Sounds like Luckbox already found a few lines this morning.
98% of Somalians agree with barbaric practices so given it's very hard to determine who the 2% who don't is, we should ban immigration from somalia in western countries -> allowed or not?
When you can predict what people believe/support based on geography then you can be pretty confident it's nothing to do with the attributes of individuals
Ironically that video is restricted here I had to turn on my VPN just to see what it was.
It's not quite legal here. I think you're allowed to cultivate it for personal use but you can't buy or sell it.
there are cannabis dispenseries in the capital now imo.
yeah they are still working on the legal aspects.
if I were to say that Ghana has worse outcomes than south Korea because Ghana residents made and make far worse choices every day of their lives (for whatever, unknown reasons) and that means Ghana residents are worse human beings that south Korea residents, I don't think this would be allowed on this forum, and would be called supremacism or other words used to define political ideas as inherently evil and worthy of censorship.
what do you
I think you have no idea what you're talking about. You're not even taking into account the range of options open to both sets of people.
Also, it's puerile to say that people from one country are "better" objectively than another.
I think you have no idea what you're talking about. You're not even taking into account the range of options open to both sets of people.
Also, it's puerile to say that people from one country are "better" objectively than another.
what about one country, on the whole, being better at something than another country? can't this be a true statement without one being racist?
kenyans are better at long distance running than americans.
americans are better at swimming than kenyans.
are these racist statements? i wouldn't think so. so the question becomes when does the line get crossed?
is it when you bring in intelligence, or perception of? or is it just when one places a higher value on a life based off of use of metrics?
I've ****ed my life up in the worst possible way right now.
Washoe posted that youtube video and it was restricted in Colombia so I used a VPN to see what it was, then I turned off the VPN and found that my youtube was in restricted mode and I couldn't turn it off-- the option was grayed out. WTF? Ok. So I google about it and they suggest deleting cookies. So I delete my cookies. Huge mistake.
I always travel with two cell phones and my first phone I dropped flat on its screen on concrete and it's completely ****ed and needs a new screen but really I'll just get a new phone.
So ok I have my backup phone, took it climbing up some waterfalls a couple days ago in a dry bag but my dry bag has tiny little holes in it from abrasion. Fortunately my camera survived but my phone #2 didn't.
I use google voice and was logged in but when I deleted my cookies I logged myself out of google, and I can't log back into google without access to my google voice account because that's my two-step verification. And it's also linked to my hotmail email but I can't log into it because it's linked to my google.
Even once I get a new phone which will probably be on Sunday I'll still be locked out of my google . My phone is also through Google Fi which at least they have a number I can call.
The only reason I'm able to even post here now is because I remember my 2p2 password. I won't be able to log into my paypal which I have a card through, I'm also basically broke and having to sell off bitcoin just to fund myself right now, and without access to paypal or robinhood I'll be running out of money.
Hotmail says it'll take a month to reset my security because if I could access it I could get my google back.
Yikes. Having to go back to the US as a result of deleting my cookies seems insane but it's sort of where I'm at.
I've tried various data recovery options to restore my deleted cookies but those don't seem to be working.
JFC Luckbox. Wow. Having to change life plans due to a video washoe posted is quite something.
JFC Luckbox. Wow. Having to change life plans due to a video washoe posted is quite something.
I'm trying to see what sort of Microsoft support options I have now and I have some old laptops and phones in Phoenix that I could try to have my brother access and see if I can log in but I feel like I've changed all my passwords so that's a long shot.
I also think I remember my robinhood password and can jump through the hoops of reestablishing 2FA with them because Ive done that before, and I'm sure I can can get paypal on the phone but yeah the whole thing is a disaster.
The worst part is that I do know both my google and microsoft passwords it's the 2FA that is the problem and having them linked to each other.
There is also the get my wet phone working route and it almost booted into recovery yesterday which was a glimmer of hope but today nothing.
Take whatever you can scrape up to the casino and **** or bust. That's what I would do lol.
I think youre going to be fine, LB. There was a time when people hiked and explored waterfalls with zero phones instead of two.
If you start getting real hungry, ler me know and ill give some pointers on how to trap salmon in the waterfalls.
Dunno, I'm pretty comfortable saying that Trump supporters as a group are "worse" than non Trump supporters, for example. Or that zealous religious adherents at a net negative to humanity. Unlike Luciom I don't think killing them all is a moral imperative, though. Baseball bat to the kneecaps should suffice.
Sure, it's fine for you to think that, and I have similar opinions about those two groups, but saying one group is "better" doesn't convey any information because there is no universal standard.
I think youre going to be fine, LB. There was a time when people hiked and explored waterfalls with zero phones instead of two.
If you start getting real hungry, ler me know and ill give some pointers on how to trap salmon in the waterfalls.
Well yeah I'm not going to die, I have credit cards, I have a little bit of cash money, I have bitcoin, I can buy a new phone. The issue is how integral having access to my google account is for my life. The vast majority of my passwords I don't know- I just use the "select strong password" feature and have them saved through google. That I'm able to post here right now and access 2 of my 3 bank accounts is somewhat of a miracle.
what about one country, on the whole, being better at something than another country? can't this be a true statement without one being racist?
kenyans are better at long distance running than americans.
americans are better at swimming than kenyans.
are these racist statements? i wouldn't think so. so the question becomes when does the line get crossed?
is it when you bring in intelligence, or perception of? or is it just when one places a hig
Neither Kenyans nor Americans are a race, so it certainly wouldn't be racist.
It would be very difficult to know if it were even objectively true, as these are individual skills, and I can't imagine any situation in which it would be relevant. Sounds similar to "USA #1" or "Go Kenya" by someone attending the Olympics.
Saying one country has a more productive economy than another is easier to judge and could actually be relevant to something like improving people's lives.
Well yeah I'm not going to die, I have credit cards, I have a little bit of cash money, I have bitcoin, I can buy a new phone. The issue is how integral having access to my google account is for my life. The vast majority of my passwords I don't know- I just use the "select strong password" feature and have them saved through google. That I'm able to post here right now and access 2 of my 3 bank accounts is somewhat of a miracle.
You don't know your PayPal password either? If you have credit cards and two bank amounts it seems like that is good.
I'm not sure I understand your situation completely, but I hate that so many things require two step verification now and dread the thought of losing my phone, or especially getting my phone and laptop stolen at the same time.
Even to log into my email from a new device I have to prove it is really me by doing something on my phone. So what would I do if my phone was lost or stolen? I don't think my actual password accomplishes anything anymore. Years ago before I had a phone with internet access and was traveling, I would check my email every day or two at a library or internet Cafe. Now I don't think I would even be able to do that.
You don't know your PayPal password either? If you have credit cards and two bank amounts it seems like that is good.
I'm not sure I understand your situation completely, but I hate that so many things require two step verification now and dread the thought of losing my phone, or especially getting my phone and laptop stolen at the same time.
Even to log into my email from a new device I have to prove it is really me by doing something on my
I know my paypal password but it's going to want 2FA for me to login.
And yeah your nightmare scenario is basically where I'm at except instead of my laptop being stolen I deleted my cookies.
The fact that my phone number is through google compounds the issue severely.
Only everyone who knows what race and racism mean.
Do you think American is a race? If so, I suppose you won't find it convincing, but on the bright side you must live in a USA with no racial conflict, as everyone is the same race.
