Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

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Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

AM YISRAEL CHAI.


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07 October 2023 at 09:33 PM
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you were shown that by the far right Israel genocidal media, government, and occupation forces who have been telling absolutely absurd lies for 6 months now (really 75 years but whos counting). that you think they have any credibility indicates to me that you are lacking something.


The Israeli media are genocidal too? 😆


by 5 south P

Would be good if they weren't chopping up the west banks with settlements and giving those crazies military protection and isolating Palestinian communities with check points. Also funding the bad guys in Gaza to try and ensure the Palestinians stay divided, hindering any two state solution.
The war tactics are pretty sickening but I don't know if there is any army in the world that could fight that place street to street.

uhhh besides the US Army?


by rafiki P

Victor the markets in Gaza are full of food.

1.5kg of rice is like $3.50 now, that's less than I pay by a lot

That's expensive. Probably like $2 where I am although I don't usually buy that much.-- Looking it up now 1 kilo is $1.16


by corpus vile P

The Israeli media are genocidal too? 😆

uhh, ya. just about every day one of their mainstream pundits or personalities says something completely genocidal.

heres one from the other day


To be fair, there is an element of ironic humor in having a palate of humanitarian aid fall on your head. Like, whoops.


by PointlessWords P

uhhh besides the US Army?

Not the US army. Gaza is like one big Fallujah but way more hardened defenses (tunnel network). How liveable was Fallujah after the US had finally had enough?


by Luckbox Inc P

That's expensive. Probably like $2 where I am although I don't usually buy that much.-- Looking it up now 1 kilo is $1.16

This is my supermarket today. Life here ain't cheap!


It's like $7 for the 1.4kg bag. The photo above is the bulk discount, lol


by Victor P

uhh, ya. just about every day one of their mainstream pundits or personalities says something completely genocidal.

heres one from the other day

Jesus wept...YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT GENOCIDAL MEANS!!


now a Quds bigwig gets got. it has been a terrible few days for supporters of terrorism 😀


by 5 south P

Not the US army. Gaza is like one big Fallujah but way more hardened defenses (tunnel network). How liveable was Fallujah after the US had finally had enough?

And instead of using their civilians as shields, ISIS actually allowed them to evacuate first. As bad as Fallujah was, think how much worse it would have been if ISIS was using their own women and children as shields he way Hamas does.


if someone said, I dont think any Israelis are innocent as they are being slaughtered and starved, you would certainly call it genocidal.

but we all know that you dont consider anyone outside of Israelis and Irish (maybe, some) as human.


It looks like the order is

-remove Hamas's ability to fight effectively
-destroy Hezbollah's ability to fight effectively
-Prepare for a nuclear Iran inside 2 years.

1-2 are being done to make #3 far easier.

Iran is getting very close very fast

https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2024/03/28/...

This site looks like it won't be something anyone can blow up from the air. Once Iran has that nuke, honestly I'm not sure what happens.

The IDF is absolutely in a mode where they are preparing for the next 10 years. The removal of fighting efficiencies of those 2 proxies makes the next phase far easier for Israel.


by Dunyain P

And instead of using their civilians as shields, ISIS actually allowed them to evacuate first. As bad as Fallujah was, think how much worse it would have been if ISIS was using their own women and children as shields he way Hamas does.

Hamas has not restricted any movement in Gaza. what are you even talking about?


by Victor P

Hamas has not restricted any movement in Gaza. what are you even talking about?

This wasn't real?

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-eas...

Was coming out of the load speakers Vic. Same as it ever was.


thats not restricting movement rafki


by Victor P

if someone said, I dont think any Israelis are innocent as they are being slaughtered and starved, you would certainly call it genocidal.


No I wouldn't I'd call it being an ass hole as words have meanings.

but we all know that you dont consider anyone outside of Israelis and Irish (maybe, some) as human.

No, only you thinks this due to your "everyone who disagrees with me is subhuman" schtick. You're easily one of the worst posters in this forum.


by Victor P

thats not restricting movement rafki

Is....this?

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_e...

The Israel Defense Forces releases an audio recording of an officer in the Military Intelligence Directorate’s Unit 504 — which specializes in HUMINT — speaking to a Gazan man, during which he describes how Hamas is preventing people from evacuating from the northern part of the Gaza Strip and even shooting at them.

The audio recording is in there if you care to listen....


no, a fake story is not


by Victor P

no, a fake story is not

Show your work? I'm prepared to believe you. But show it.


I dont believe anything from the IDF. esp after they posted doctored audio after the Al Ahli bombing.


by Victor P

I dont believe anything from the IDF. esp after they posted doctored audio after the Al Ahli bombing.

Well you can see how we're quickly going to be at an impasse if you believe everything from Hamas and nothing from the IDF.


by rafiki P

Show your work? I'm prepared to believe you. But show it.

Any source will be dismissed as fake, due to West Bad Everyone Else Good. (Including Hamas)


no, due to all of the lies they have already told. or do you still the 40 beheaded babies and the command center at Shifa?


Victor it takes like 3 news items to use your method to discredit everything Hamas says using the same logic.

We aren't 5 years old here. There has to be more nuance than this.


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