The costs of trans visibility
Yesterday, Dylan Mulvaney broke her silence: https://www.tiktok.com/@dylanmulvaney/vi....
For context, this is a trans influencer who built a 10 million strong following on TikTok. She took a brand deal with budweiser to post an ad on an instagram, and the anti-trans right went absolutely ballistic, calling for a boycott, condemning the company, and to some perhaps unknowable degree it influenced that Budweiser sales dropped by a 1/4 and
. Dylan speaks more personally about the effect of the hatred on her.
What strikes me about this story is that it is just about visibility. This isn't inclusion in sports or gender-affirming care for minors, it was just that a trans person was visible. This wasn't even visibility in a TV commerical that a poor right-winger is forced to see, it was an ad on her own instagram page. We're all in our own social media algorithm influenced bubbles, but from my vantage point it really has seemed that in the last year or so things have just gotten worse for trans people and the backlash to even minor visibility is growing.
We need to do better.
Given the diction and the persecution complex, I am willing to bet that ihiv or it's hot in Vegas is trying to sneak back in here after his numerous meltdowns and bans.
Sorry Stalin, I don't let a Twitter post from some derp upset me. I have learned that nothing there is as it seems. Besides, sport radio is hawking testosterone treatments everyday and you want me upset that someone lied about their age and condition and got some?
This is another fantastic discussion in response to you seeing that a child walking in to a medical clinic and within minutes is on the path to medical transition without any involvement of the parents
While your history of and takes in regards of communism may be of top priority to yourself, I don't particularly care if you just happen to argue in favor constantly or whatever. The deflection of an abhorrent medical incent being discussed in the trans thread and predictably you don't have the time or interest to condemn or discuss the matter in any meaningful way. I'm not surprised but I am trying to hold a mirror up for you
Seems like a bunch of your overlords got their panties in a bunch over the issue:
Fox News panelist Lisa Boothe said recognition of the International Transgender Day of Visibility on Sunday was part of a scheme to overthrow the almighty. (Watch the video below.)
Boothe, a channel contributor who was a co-host on “The Big Weekend Show,” joined a chorus of right-wing protests to the event being celebrated, as it has been since 2009, on March 3
i either have no overlords, or just one, and it's not the media.
i disagree with trans movement having a day of recognition, but i would disagree just as much if it fell on a benign tuesday in july.
Here you are
Any thoughts on the child medically transitioning in the story? Any more or medical concerns?
How about experts like Haidt talking about social contagion?
Maybe we could finding more and more petty things to deflect and bicker about before you have to confront any moral issues within a movement you clearly support
Sorry Stalin, I don't let a Twitter post from some derp upset me. I have learned that nothing there is as it seems. Besides, sport radio is hawking testosterone treatments everyday and you want me upset that someone lied about their age and condition and got some?
yes, TRT for an aging man and HRT for a 14 year old are one and the same.
lol, you actually believe this nonsense?
The people who told you this wasn't happening will pivot to spamming empty 4 word posts to bury it, talk about media bias around the story, etc. What you don[t find is them ever condemning it. Or actually discussing it in any meaningful way. Absolutely no moral compass. If history has shown anything, an attempt to get either the post or myself removed will happen before confronting their own comrades/complicity
Can we fast forward to the part where you just let us know which of the right wing banned accounts you are?
Didn't see this coming
In a totally unrelated note, simple things are more predictable than complex ones
Here you are
Any thoughts on the child medically transitioning in the story? Any more or medical concerns?
How about experts like Haidt talking about social contagion?
Maybe we could finding more and more petty things to deflect and bicker about before you have to confront any moral issues within a movement you clearly support
Surprise me for once
This is another fantastic discussion in response to you seeing that a child walking in to a medical clinic and within minutes is on the path to medical transition without any involvement of the parents
While your history of and takes in regards of communism may be of top priority to yourself, I don't particularly care if you just happen to argue in favor constantly or whatever. The deflection of an abhorrent medical incent being discussed in
Wow. That really is all over the place.
But why are you conservatives always demanding condemnations or pledges of allegiance? It's like the cultural revolution with you guys.
No. I’m dismissing the ridiculous conspiracy theory espoused by lozen. As I said, your silly “self censor” BS while bad and thoroughly dismissed previously in the Canada thread is at least much less bad than lozen’s conspiracy.
I've actually worked for government funded organizations that on paper are wholly independent and without any oversight and in independent journalism
it's the biggest lie in the world that there's no outside influence on those - they all answer to others
much in the same way if i were going to appoint the director of the CBC and wanted to ensure that they didn't have any negative trans coverage, I would put someone like you or Gangsta in charge - I wouldn't then need to give you orders, I already know your positions on that issue and how you'll squash/edit any stories that we both agree would be bad journalism
This post doesn't really make sense. You want it to both be no big deal and, at the same time, to have made a huge difference. All I noticed was a few conservatives whined relentlessly and freedom of speech got cancelled.
It wasn't a big deal because it was closed for a day. And when it reopened all of the people who were causing problems decided to leave and create their own forum.
No chance that the new forum here was less free speech than the old one though, huge lol there.
You should go there and test that out.
Remember having to do the pledge of allegiance every morning in school? Man, that creeped me out. It's just weird.
and the majority of people in this fine country. i assure you, the more you dolts push this nonsense, the more people will vote right.
Who is pushing anything other than your idiocy. A doctor gave a liar a prescription for a condition she claimed, if the liar said she wanted birth control and was sexually active I would expect the doctor to give her a prescription. Both prescriptions are hormone therapy.
A person has the right to receive medical care you don't approve of. No one cares that you disagree.
Clowns that want to make medical decisions for others are getting destroyed since Dobbs, you moron. Voting right.....hahaha.
much in the same way IF i were going to appoint the director of the CBC and wanted to ensure that they didn't have any negative trans coverage, I would put someone like you or Gangsta in charge - I wouldn't then need to give you orders, I already know your positions on that issue and how you'll squash/edit any stories that we both agree would be bad journalism
That's an awfully big if. Back down here in reality there is precisely zero evidence that this has happened on the topic of "trans coverage" or any of the other verticals of coverage where the CBC enjoys 100% complete editorial freedom.
That's an awfully big if. Back down here in reality there is precisely zero evidence that this has happened on the topic of "trans coverage" or any of the other verticals of coverage where the CBC enjoys 100% complete editorial freedom.
you go back to building strawmen
drum it down to basics
if andrew tate bought 2p2 next week, he wouldn't need to give out any instructions or create any new rules whatsoever
he'd simply thank gangsta and bobo for their service and install someone like luciom as a politics mod - then it sorts itself out
and again, I can't emphasize enough, I'm not making any position on trans anything regarding CBC coverage
I'm simply saying that you're wildly ignorant statement that it's a truly independent organization was wildly ignorant - it will blow in any direction the administration blows - there may not be marching orders coming down but if the people running it don't run it in a manner that is agreeable with the people funding it, they'll certainly find a replacement who will and it's just insane for you to hand wave that away
drum it down to basics
if andrew tate bought 2p2 next week, he wouldn't need to give out any instructions or create any new rules whatsoever
he'd simply thank gangsta and bobo for their service and install someone like luciom as a politics mod - then it sorts itself out
So cute. Except, of course, that the crown corporation which has deliberately arms length approach from the government and is editorially independent as written into the law isn’t well explained by a reductionist metaphor about forums and their moderators. I’m glad you are far far far far from lozen’s initial conspiracy theory at this point - progress imo - but you’ve settled on a point so vague and contextless as to be utterly meaningless.
jesus christ you are just willfully obtuse whenever it suits your own narrative - it's terrifying to me that you are an educator because there's no way you're this bag of rocks level of stupid - which thus shows you're happy to put on the blinders and seek confirmation bias - which is an inexcusable trait for someone teaching the next generation
This all seems like a very silly argument. Arguing about whether something will be suppressed instead of waiting a day or two to find out if it is?
And then it looks like it has already been put on the radio in Canada, so it obviously wasn't suppressed. I'm definitely interested in reading/watching/hearing this story whenever we can get an English version of it, which I have to imagine won't be long. Maybe Montreal can give us more details even before that.
Ihiv, Ricksomething or Dr. Fakey? I should do a poll.
Those mother ****ers. Making national ferret day and national peanut butter and jelly sandwich day on national reconciliation day? You can't reconcile ferrets and sandwiches.
This is also nonsense, but at least it is much less nonsense than lozen's "the government will shut it down". The CBC retains 100% editorial independence. Almost all sloppy "but maybe they self censor" type arguments have repeatedly been shown to be false in the Canada thread, and if you wish we can give into it there, but the simple fact is no government is shutting down reporting on some story about trans people from the CBC. That is comp
Yup editorial independence when the head of the CBC is chosen by Heritage Minister whom is appointed by Justin Trudeau . As well the government funds the CBC to the tune of 1.4 billion $ .
CBC is so far left it makes Rachel Maddow look like a centrist
fwiw this is what neutral third parties say of CBC political leaning
