[GGPoker]: Natural8, etc

[GGPoker]: Natural8, etc

Anybody heard of this site? If yes, how is it?

15 March 2016 at 06:59 AM
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by FunnyBunny.H P

You were so close to having a great and informative post, only to do a 180 at the end, and start rambling about how online might be rigged. Still good effort though!


And:
"you actually have great action on GG."

I agree with both!


by FunnyBunny.H P

I didn't say great/perfect for a reason.

People seem to forget, Pokerstars used to actually offer 1-2% RB for well over a year for winning players (beside all the other scummy things they did in the last decade) just because they had an absolute monopoly on the market, and they were juicing it to the absolute maximum. It's one of the biggest reason why their site is dying recent years, the constant mistreatment of their own players in favou

Speaking off, I won a huge pot with a straight today, even got that dancing Negreanu, but never received a single ggcheers chip for that. I feel a bit cheated by their algorithm.

I agree that their rakeback system is much better than anything else in the market right now though. Their bad beat jackpot is particularly juicy IMO. Yet, if PS were willing to bring back supernova, I wouldn't hesitate in moving back to their site.


by blazar P

You pay rake as high as 12-22BB per 100 hand, 6max games can be 12-15BB and 9max 15-22BB depends how you play and how often you 3bet etc so we can all agree that rake is absurdly high

Cashback can be 20-25% with PVI

From leaderboards and all bonuses combined you can get up to 10BB per 100 hand

There are many recreational players around so games can be very profitable

To sum up: you pay average 15BB per 100 hand rake, you get 10BB back from bon

Wow their rake is that high? I wouldn't play on it.


by iburydoscocaroaches P

Wow their rake is that high? I wouldn't play on it.

Yeah, GG rakes preflop 3bets and also takes additional rake for badbeat jackpot share, so it adds up and in the end you get this high rake


by blazar P

Yeah, GG rakes preflop 3bets and also takes additional rake for badbeat jackpot share, so it adds up and in the end you get this high rake

Yeah and I would also add when talking about rake on GG that the calculations for rake paid in bb/100 on primedope are way too low. From my sample, I pay easily 15-20% more rake in bb/100 than primedope shows. And by the way, I don't cold call outside of the BB most of the time, so it's not like I play a strategy that just pays more rake due to the preflop strat.

It can get really high and tough to beat especially if you have terrible luck for the bad beat jackpots. If you run good and get the collateral share of the BBJ reasonably often, your rakeback can be really high. Otherwise, it has a very negative impact on your overall winrate/hourly. Leaderboards are another important thing here when talking about rakeback and your bottom line.


by MDAcoaching P

Yeah and I would also add when talking about rake on GG that the calculations for rake paid in bb/100 on primedope are way too low. From my sample, I pay easily 15-20% more rake in bb/100 than primedope shows. And by the way, I don't cold call outside of the BB most of the time, so it's not like I play a strategy that just pays more rake due to the preflop strat.

It can get really high and tough to beat especially if you have terrible luck f

i think it is because on primedope it shows without BBJ fee


Has anyone experienced any delays withdrawing from GG recently? I am in the UK and withdrawing to Visa.


by d2_e4 P

Has anyone experienced any delays withdrawing from GG recently? I am in the UK and withdrawing to Visa.

EU to bank account took like few hours last week so no.


by Slugant P

nothing strange about it. These are player who focus on massive volume & rakeback instead of good play, thats why they lose pre rakeback. A lot of them probably are making a profit after rakeback. Of all the shadyness & wrongdoing on GG this wouldnt make the top 10.

What would be your top 10 or top 5 bad things that GG does?


Has anyone else been running super bad when it comes to GGCare flipout money? Or I don't really mean running, I haven't even been registered in it at all during like the last two weeks. Today I won a 400 bb pot and lost another one, nothing. 200 bb pot K high flush vs A high flush, nada. I could continue and continue. I've played like 80k hands since early Feb steady volume and total I've received ca. 220 bb worth flipout money since then, nothing at all since late Feb.


by eduargentina P

What would be your top 10 or top 5 bad things that GG does?

Not in any particular order:

Misleading RB, cash drop, and other promo advertising.
Lack of transparency when it comes to PVI.
Lack of transparency when it comes to GG Care flipout triggers.
Weekly withdrawal limits (makes you think they are Full Tilting their customers' money).
Prop bet chip dump and fish buffet scams not properly investigated (or completely ignored) despite reports.
Security team doing **** all about superuser allegations until a full media circus develops around it.
Site crashes, especially on Sundays.
Slowing the game down by not giving players the opportunity to decline or accept RIMT's or EV cashouts by default.
Very loosely interpreted TOS's when it comes to 'bum hunting'.
Reg table rake is absurd.
The HUD is buggy and you can pretty easily manipulate your owns stats.
Daily leaderboard race account sharing is rampant and nothing seems to be done about it.
Pokercraft not showing post rake results.

I'm sure I'm missing something but running out of time and energy for now....


by DeezedFourz P

Has anyone else been running super bad when it comes to GGCare flipout money? Or I don't really mean running, I haven't even been registered in it at all during like the last two weeks. Today I won a 400 bb pot and lost another one, nothing. 200 bb pot K high flush vs A high flush, nada. I could continue and continue. I've played like 80k hands since early Feb steady volume and total I've received ca. 220 bb worth flipout money since then,

I feel that they have made it harder to get care for sure. Not that I care about that because you can't do anything about that so what's the point? But I do agree that it's way harder these days.


by DeezedFourz P

Not in any particular order:

Misleading RB, cash drop, and other promo advertising.
Lack of transparency when it comes to PVI.
Lack of transparency when it comes to GG Care flipout triggers.
Weekly withdrawal limits (makes you think they are Full Tilting their customers' money).
Prop bet chip dump and fish buffet scams not properly investigated (or completely ignored) despite reports.
Security team doing **** all about superuser allegations until


Agree 👍 Also 1% fee on EV cashouts sucks too


by DeezedFourz P

Has anyone else been running super bad when it comes to GGCare flipout money? Or I don't really mean running, I haven't even been registered in it at all during like the last two weeks. Today I won a 400 bb pot and lost another one, nothing. 200 bb pot K high flush vs A high flush, nada. I could continue and continue. I've played like 80k hands since early Feb steady volume and total I've received ca. 220 bb worth flipout money since then,

Well, not me. I actually have been suffering a bit of a big downswing these past couple of days, but their rakeback via GGCare/Cheers and the bad beat jackpot has helped me keeping my profits on the green side.

The funny thing is that while I was on the upswing, I was seeing virtually no money from such promotions (with the exception of the leader boards). So a part of me is indeed a bit suspicious, but at this moment there's no hate from me towards GG.


by DeezedFourz P

Has anyone else been running super bad when it comes to GGCare flipout money? Or I don't really mean running, I haven't even been registered in it at all during like the last two weeks. Today I won a 400 bb pot and lost another one, nothing. 200 bb pot K high flush vs A high flush, nada. I could continue and continue. I've played like 80k hands since early Feb steady volume and total I've received ca. 220 bb worth flipout money since then,

I personally would not pay too much attention to GGcare money, it's insignificant compared to your regular RB and Leaderboard money. It's an RNG tournament with uneven odds and to cash for reasonable money, you need a ridiculously deep run out of a massive field.

I play on GG since mid July of 2023, and for playing 165K-ish hands I got registered 90 times with cashing in 31 of them. My best result was 49th/16K for a "whooping" 84$. If I were to calculate in bb/100, my total 800$ winnings worth slightly under 1bb/100 in RB.

I am a regular with reasonable volume (not one of those 4-tabling R&C 20h/day type of players tho) and I finish in the money 1/3 times for the flipout tournaments, so on paper "I am running good". Yet it literally doesn't matter to my bottom line, because it's less than 1bb/100 in post RB winnings. It's basically a "Oh I got a bit of extra money randomly, nice!" kind of thing.


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by DeezedFourz P

Weekly withdrawal limits (makes you think they are Full Tilting their customers' money).

Is there a limit for withdrawals? I Just quickly opened my cashier out of curiosity and I didn't see there anything about having a limit, only for depositing. Haven't checked in ToS though.

by DeezedFourz P

Site crashes, especially on Sundays.

My playing schedule is pretty fluid, so not necessarily playing every weekend for massive hours - though generally get in at least 2-3 shorter sessions/day, but I am yet to encounter massive crashes/client disconnects. If anything I find the client surprisingly reliant, which I didn't expect initially.

by DeezedFourz P

Daily leaderboard race account sharing is rampant and nothing seems to be done about it.

I give you this one, although it still feels like a "far cry" from the absurdity that we witnessed on Partypoker a few years ago with leaderboards and the entire ladder basically being account sharing Eastern-Europeans.

At least at my limit (PLO50) if I really wanted to, I could consistently grind out Top4-6 for 120-180$/day, it's just simply not worth it. It's unhealthy AF, and it would also impact my playing-performance.
I prefer to keep my pre-RB winnings as high as possible and happily take my daily 10-25$ on average LB money, depending on how much volume I put in. Every now and then I will play a bit longer to bink a better prize, but won't go out of my way to purely focus the LB.


Hi guys hope someone can help me.

Since I bought a new PC (same monitor), I reinstalled GGPoker and suddenly everything in main lobby and tournament lobby has become so tiny that my eyes hurt.
It can't be resized and in settings there is no option to change font size or anything like that.

How do I fix this? Is there something in Windows 11 I can change?


The poker boom is over on GGpoker?

I opened my account in late january 2024. There was an average of 18K players in GGcare flipouts. Now theres an average of 15-16K players. Games seems a bit more nitty also.
Id like to know the avg participants in GGcare flipouts in Q4 2023. Feeling it was increasing up until march 2024. Is it possible GG is now on maturity level as a company and will now stagnate for the next years to come or its simply seasonal decreasing in traffic?


by WhateverKK P

The poker boom is over on GGpoker?

I opened my account in late january 2024. There was an average of 18K players in GGcare flipouts. Now theres an average of 15-16K players. Games seems a bit more nitty also.
Id like to know the avg participants in GGcare flipouts in Q4 2023. Feeling it was increasing up until march 2024. Is it possible GG is now on maturity level as a company and will now stagnate for the next years to come or its simply sea

Lol. There were 300k entries in games yesterday. You know you can't enter the careflips yourself? It has nothing to do with the overall traffic lol.


Just had this idea wondered if its possible to do

-Withdraw btc from gg,
-If you notice that btc tanks while transaction is being approved then cancel transaction
-Do new withdrawal and get more btc for same price.

Are people doing this?


by ImePaskaa P

Lol. There were 300k entries in games yesterday. You know you can't enter the careflips yourself? It has nothing to do with the overall traffic lol.

players online means nothing. GGcare flipouts entrants number is a direct correlation with real money traffic.

How many entrants in november 2023?


by WhateverKK P

The poker boom is over on GGpoker?

I opened my account in late january 2024. There was an average of 18K players in GGcare flipouts. Now theres an average of 15-16K players. Games seems a bit more nitty also.
Id like to know the avg participants in GGcare flipouts in Q4 2023. Feeling it was increasing up until march 2024. Is it possible GG is now on maturity level as a company and will now stagnate for the next years to come or its simply sea

You will always see a decrease in traffic on all online poker sites during summer on the Northern hemisphere. So yeah, I think it is seasonal.


by WindUpBird P

Just had this idea wondered if its possible to do

-Withdraw btc from gg,
-If you notice that btc tanks while transaction is being approved then cancel transaction
-Do new withdrawal and get more btc for same price.

Are people doing this?

Seems like an interesting idea, but I think it is pretty tough to pull this off since AFAIK the withdrawals are pretty quick. Is the rate/amount of BTC you get on your cashout locked to the value at the time of withdrawal?


by DeezedFourz P

Not in any particular order:

Misleading RB, cash drop, and other promo advertising.
Lack of transparency when it comes to PVI.
Lack of transparency when it comes to GG Care flipout triggers.
Weekly withdrawal limits (makes you think they are Full Tilting their customers' money).
Prop bet chip dump and fish buffet scams not properly investigated (or completely ignored) despite reports.
Security team doing **** all about superuser allegations until

Could you please elaborate more about the "manipulating of your HUD stats"? I have never noticed this or heard about it, really interested to hear what the bugs are.


You mean you’d like to manipulate your stats…


by nootaboos P

You mean you’d like to manipulate your stats…

I don't even play that site and everyone is using SmartHand so the in-game hud is pretty much useless 😀


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