Police brutality and police reform (US)
couple links. im sure you can find others. the video is essentially showing the killing so be advised.
Minneapolis police were called to a scene involving a possibly bad check at a grocery store. police say he was resisting arrest. one officer is shown to kneel with full body weight on Floyds neck, while Floyd tells the officer he cant breathe, the officer continues to suffocate Floyd until he appears to become unconscious and Floyd dies either on the way to hospital/or at hospital depending on the reports.
police initially recorded the event as "suspect had medical distress".
this is one of those events where i believe that every single officer at the scene should be fired at the minimum for allowing Floyd to be killed in their presence and obviously the officer killing floyd to be prosecuted to the fullest extent possible. i have not looked up the minnesota murder statutes but in my jurisdiction this would seem to be Murder 2, imo which is the "depraved mind" willful disregard for human life non premeditation version.
i dont know if there will be much discussion on this one as it appears fairly cut and dry that this was an absolute unnecessary killing over some groceries in a depression. but i thought it deserved a thread.
I won't say that it demonstrates that police are not needed, but I don't see how it demonstrates why we need cops.
The cops didn't shoot the girl because of lack of training imo. They did it because they are hyper-trained to tolerate as little danger as possible for any police officers and because of that they truly have adopted shoot-first-and-ask-questions-later.
damn.
a situation that perfectly encapsulates why we need police and also why we distrust/hate them. couple of thoughts:
-i think its pretty poor procedure to engage in a gunfight with a guy who has a hostage. granted, had this been in a more public environment, one could argue the cops have to take the risks and shoot back to prevent more than one murder. this does not seem like one of those situations.
-the cop yelling "come here" should be
Police should be punished when it makes mistakes like this, that's very important.
Allowing them great latitude and an easy trigger has nothing to do with letting them kill complete innocents because they didn't understand a situation.
There are other instances of police just cold blood killing innocents. And they usually know they ****ed up. And they try to cover it. They should be punished really hard when they attempt cover ups
I won't say that it demonstrates that police are not needed, but I don't see how it demonstrates why we need cops.
The cops didn't shoot the girl because of lack of training imo. They did it because they are hyper-trained to tolerate as little danger as possible for any police officers and because of that they truly have adopted shoot-first-and-ask-questions-later.
It’s from lack of training. Signed, people that have been trained.
Cops are just god awful in these types of gun fights you see. I mean acorn guy and the dude running and shooting who kept hitting his mag release after 3 shots leaving a bunch of mostly full mags in his wake of some of my favorites as of late.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024...
A dude kills his wife and then takes his 15yo daughter against her will. The police stop them and tell the 15yo girl to get out of the car and come to them and then when she does they shoot her dead.
you forgot to point out a key point here.. the police lied about it for two years and tried to cover it up.
it'd be really cool and fun if we lived in a world where police officers that lie on their official reports are actually fired for doing so. i know it's a lot to ask for, but man, that would be nice.
you forgot to point out a key point here.. the police lied about it for two years and tried to cover it up.
it'd be really cool and fun if we lived in a world where police officers that lie on their official reports are actually fired for doing so. i know it's a lot to ask for, but man, that would be nice.
That's because they can have unions in the public sector, which always has horrific results, because they don't allow firing of even the worst offender (hint: it's identical everywhere in the public sector).
Public sector employees shouldn't be allowed to unionize (or be registered members of any party, like judges can't).
That's because they can have unions in the public sector, which always has horrific results, because they don't allow firing of even the worst offender (hint: it's identical everywhere in the public sector).
Public sector employees shouldn't be allowed to unionize (or be registered members of any party, like judges can't).
Of course judges can be registered members of political parties. Why do you just talk out of your ass so much?
damn.
a situation that perfectly encapsulates why we need police and also why we distrust/hate them. couple of thoughts:
-i think its pretty poor procedure to engage in a gunfight with a guy who has a hostage. granted, had this been in a more public environment, one could argue the cops have to take the risks and shoot back to prevent more than one murder. this does not seem like one of those situations.
-the cop yelling "come here" should be
Where are you from? This is this US. If the cop loses his job, or faces any consequences, he'll get another job in another department in no time. MAGAs probably already have shrines to commemorate the fresher air.
That's because they can have unions in the public sector, which always has horrific results, because they don't allow firing of even the worst offender (hint: it's identical everywhere in the public sector).
Public sector employees shouldn't be allowed to unionize (or be registered members of any party, like judges can't).
Getting rid of all unions who cover anyone paid with tax dollars at any government level would be day 1 of what I would do as president.
